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Very difficult result to take last night. On reflection you couldn't not be proud of this team. There are 4 or 5 lads who will add serious value to our senior team in the coming years. I remember seeing that team bet out the gate at minor by Donegal and last night they were a kick of a ball away from being ulster champions. It really begs the question what was Going on at minor for the last 3 years. Hats off to management they couldn't have done anymore with this group . Tyrone just know how to win, it's in there DNA it's not in ours let's face it. A dogfight with Tyrone is not where you want to be . You need to Bury them when you get the chance. I think next year's team will be even stronger so if management sticks together it will happen.
On a side note I taught the ref was so poor. He kept them in it with soft frees. We had to work so hard for everything we got . Very poor refereeing, for an ulster final I think we deserved a bit better.

blueskies (Cavan) - Posts: 194 - 23/04/2022 08:24:48    2412410

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Replying To blueskies:  "Very difficult result to take last night. On reflection you couldn't not be proud of this team. There are 4 or 5 lads who will add serious value to our senior team in the coming years. I remember seeing that team bet out the gate at minor by Donegal and last night they were a kick of a ball away from being ulster champions. It really begs the question what was Going on at minor for the last 3 years. Hats off to management they couldn't have done anymore with this group . Tyrone just know how to win, it's in there DNA it's not in ours let's face it. A dogfight with Tyrone is not where you want to be . You need to Bury them when you get the chance. I think next year's team will be even stronger so if management sticks together it will happen.
On a side note I taught the ref was so poor. He kept them in it with soft frees. We had to work so hard for everything we got . Very poor refereeing, for an ulster final I think we deserved a bit better."
Well done to the lads last night and i felt we left it behind us tremendous performance and terrific work rate from the boys they never gave up. That young Lovett looks some prospect very encouraging to see and hopefully a few will step up to senior panel,only for some wayward shooting we could have won that game last night. What is it with referees and Cavan in Ulster finals once again we were up against 16 men Tyrone were given at least 3frees that were dubious to say the least for slightest of contact and every time we tried to turn them over he gave Tyrone a free yet he didn't give us any for the same alleged offence it's so unfair as the lads gave it their all. The same thing in senior final in 2020 when we played 20 minutes with 14 men Galligan nearly had his head taken off and nothing done about it i really think it's time that referees from outside Ulster should take charge of all championship games in Ulster. Good luck to Mickey and the team v Antrim this afternoon up Cavan.

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 23/04/2022 11:11:15    2412441

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Well done to the lads last night and i felt we left it behind us tremendous performance and terrific work rate from the boys they never gave up. That young Lovett looks some prospect very encouraging to see and hopefully a few will step up to senior panel,only for some wayward shooting we could have won that game last night. What is it with referees and Cavan in Ulster finals once again we were up against 16 men Tyrone were given at least 3frees that were dubious to say the least for slightest of contact and every time we tried to turn them over he gave Tyrone a free yet he didn't give us any for the same alleged offence it's so unfair as the lads gave it their all. The same thing in senior final in 2020 when we played 20 minutes with 14 men Galligan nearly had his head taken off and nothing done about it i really think it's time that referees from outside Ulster should take charge of all championship games in Ulster. Good luck to Mickey and the team v Antrim this afternoon up Cavan."
Agree with all that. Couldn't ask for more from them young lads but that refereeing was the worst I've ever seen and that's saying something.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 23/04/2022 12:44:05    2412466

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Well done to the lads last night and i felt we left it behind us tremendous performance and terrific work rate from the boys they never gave up. That young Lovett looks some prospect very encouraging to see and hopefully a few will step up to senior panel,only for some wayward shooting we could have won that game last night. What is it with referees and Cavan in Ulster finals once again we were up against 16 men Tyrone were given at least 3frees that were dubious to say the least for slightest of contact and every time we tried to turn them over he gave Tyrone a free yet he didn't give us any for the same alleged offence it's so unfair as the lads gave it their all. The same thing in senior final in 2020 when we played 20 minutes with 14 men Galligan nearly had his head taken off and nothing done about it i really think it's time that referees from outside Ulster should take charge of all championship games in Ulster. Good luck to Mickey and the team v Antrim this afternoon up Cavan."
Quit blaming the ref. We had a free to force extra time and couldn't convert.
Back line and keeper saved us from 2 certain goals in the latter stages of 2nd half.
Caught a ball on edge of square when a point down. Should have called a mark but went for glory.
Too many lads playing as individuals looking to get their name in the Celt.
Good performances in finals don't count if you don't get the result.
Same old story.. to be just happy with the performance.
That one got away as usual
Tyrone very average but they are Ulster U 20 champs and that's all that matters to them.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 23/04/2022 12:46:30    2412468

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Ah the ref was poor but we lost it in the first half. We should have been up by 6 we owned the ball. Not enough of a player's able to kick a score apart lovett and O'Rourke.
We still should have won it and I don't want to be too critical but management probably made a few mistakes that in tight games make a difference cause Tyrone were poor.

tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 23/04/2022 13:51:54    2412481

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Quit blaming the ref. We had a free to force extra time and couldn't convert.
Back line and keeper saved us from 2 certain goals in the latter stages of 2nd half.
Caught a ball on edge of square when a point down. Should have called a mark but went for glory.
Too many lads playing as individuals looking to get their name in the Celt.
Good performances in finals don't count if you don't get the result.
Same old story.. to be just happy with the performance.
That one got away as usual
Tyrone very average but they are Ulster U 20 champs and that's all that matters to them."
Spot on but tone down the negativity…. Honourable defeats are what's liked here… Loughduff Lad will be on to you…!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 23/04/2022 14:55:40    2412494

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Quit blaming the ref. We had a free to force extra time and couldn't convert.
Back line and keeper saved us from 2 certain goals in the latter stages of 2nd half.
Caught a ball on edge of square when a point down. Should have called a mark but went for glory.
Too many lads playing as individuals looking to get their name in the Celt.
Good performances in finals don't count if you don't get the result.
Same old story.. to be just happy with the performance.
That one got away as usual
Tyrone very average but they are Ulster U 20 champs and that's all that matters to them."
Feel bad for young Reilly missing the free (would have been a great score in the opening 10 minutes never mind having a full 60/70 minutes of football played), he was outstanding throughout the championship and that certainly wasn't the losing of the game. The game was lost in the first half when we were completely dominant and didn't convert out opportunities, very erratic with our shooting and I felt decision making let us down.
Ball retention and decision making was much better in the Derry game I felt.
I thought the defence and goalkeeper played very well, Cormac Brady had an outstanding game on Canavan. We dominated around the middle in the first half and seemed to run out of steam come the second. O'Rourke in particular was very impressive. Darragh lovett was very lively and looks like a good prospect, Tyrone dropped sweepers following the opening 10 minutes and Cavan struggled to get the ball into him.
All in all, it's disappointing not to win it but these are young lads and the experience will stand to them.

On a side note I wouldn't be one to blame referees, I but after watching both the senior game today and the under 20s yesterday I felt both games were very poorly officiated. It's hard on teams that have trained for months to be beaten by a few very poor refereeing decisions.

BigEZ (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 23/04/2022 15:59:22    2412508

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Well done to the lads last night and i felt we left it behind us tremendous performance and terrific work rate from the boys they never gave up. That young Lovett looks some prospect very encouraging to see and hopefully a few will step up to senior panel,only for some wayward shooting we could have won that game last night. What is it with referees and Cavan in Ulster finals once again we were up against 16 men Tyrone were given at least 3frees that were dubious to say the least for slightest of contact and every time we tried to turn them over he gave Tyrone a free yet he didn't give us any for the same alleged offence it's so unfair as the lads gave it their all. The same thing in senior final in 2020 when we played 20 minutes with 14 men Galligan nearly had his head taken off and nothing done about it i really think it's time that referees from outside Ulster should take charge of all championship games in Ulster. Good luck to Mickey and the team v Antrim this afternoon up Cavan."
Didn't see the game so won't comment other than to say when it comes to rules and refereeing, Gaelic Football is a joke. Does anyone even know what the tackle rule actually is and how to implement it? There is far too much room for subjective interpretation which drives supporters crazy. It must be worse for the players.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/04/2022 16:44:36    2412518

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Just landed in Omagh here after making it across from Belfast. Best of luck to the minors here!

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 23/04/2022 17:27:50    2412526

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Just landed in Omagh here after making it across from Belfast. Best of luck to the minors here!"
Can't question your committment anyway lol

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/04/2022 18:09:02    2412540

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Can't question your committment anyway lol"
More fool me anyway. Is ridiculous that we've had 3 games on 3 different counties over 22 hours. These minor boys deserve their day out on front of a big crowd in the build up to a Senior match. Decent crowd in Omagh, but they deserve better

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 23/04/2022 18:50:21    2412555

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Quit blaming the ref. We had a free to force extra time and couldn't convert.
Back line and keeper saved us from 2 certain goals in the latter stages of 2nd half.
Caught a ball on edge of square when a point down. Should have called a mark but went for glory.
Too many lads playing as individuals looking to get their name in the Celt.
Good performances in finals don't count if you don't get the result.
Same old story.. to be just happy with the performance.
That one got away as usual
Tyrone very average but they are Ulster U 20 champs and that's all that matters to them."
You are talking about young lads, 18, 19 and 20 years old. I bet you didn't even travel did you. Another poisonous negative virus on this board.

This is how these "fans" comment

We are crap, opponents won and they are useless too. Blah blah blah.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 23/04/2022 19:44:59    2412576

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Replying To fredflint:  "You are talking about young lads, 18, 19 and 20 years old. I bet you didn't even travel did you. Another poisonous negative virus on this board.

This is how these "fans" comment

We are crap, opponents won and they are useless too. Blah blah blah."
The bottom line is we lost a game we dominated against very poor opponents through bad decision making on the pitch and on the sideline… Our back line was superb but our forwards were clueless ( apart from Lovett who was left isolated most of the game)… What was no.14 doing wandering around the middle and then replaced at ht… why not put him in ff for 10/15 minutes and let the ball into him and have Lovett feed off him….. some of the shot selections by our attackers bordered on brainlessness…. An Ulster title left behind

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 24/04/2022 09:29:53    2412654

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "The bottom line is we lost a game we dominated against very poor opponents through bad decision making on the pitch and on the sideline… Our back line was superb but our forwards were clueless ( apart from Lovett who was left isolated most of the game)… What was no.14 doing wandering around the middle and then replaced at ht… why not put him in ff for 10/15 minutes and let the ball into him and have Lovett feed off him….. some of the shot selections by our attackers bordered on brainlessness…. An Ulster title left behind"
I don't think you watched any of the games leading up to the final based on what you're saying. Lovett was played inside in every game and Smith played more defensively and worked really hard pressing. I don't think you noticed that Tyrone also dropped sweepers in front of Lovett after 10 minutes so the letting the ball in tactic some people seem to love would be in fact clueless even if Smith had played in the FF line which he hadn't in any of the games leading up to the final.
It's very easy for lads to play the game from the sideline. The lads did very well thought-out the championship and ridiculing 18,19,20 year olds on a forum is very helpful, I'm sure they are hurting bad enough without some yahoo who probably couldn't or never could kick snow of a rope telling them they are clueless.

BigEZ (Cavan) - Posts: 25 - 24/04/2022 11:32:44    2412692

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Quit blaming the ref. We had a free to force extra time and couldn't convert.
Back line and keeper saved us from 2 certain goals in the latter stages of 2nd half.
Caught a ball on edge of square when a point down. Should have called a mark but went for glory.
Too many lads playing as individuals looking to get their name in the Celt.
Good performances in finals don't count if you don't get the result.
Same old story.. to be just happy with the performance.
That one got away as usual
Tyrone very average but they are Ulster U 20 champs and that's all that matters to them."
Your entitled to your opinion same as me so he missed a free at the end wouldn't have mattered if referee didn't give Tyrone 3 easy frees in front of goal but gave us nothing

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 24/04/2022 11:43:01    2412694

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "The bottom line is we lost a game we dominated against very poor opponents through bad decision making on the pitch and on the sideline… Our back line was superb but our forwards were clueless ( apart from Lovett who was left isolated most of the game)… What was no.14 doing wandering around the middle and then replaced at ht… why not put him in ff for 10/15 minutes and let the ball into him and have Lovett feed off him….. some of the shot selections by our attackers bordered on brainlessness…. An Ulster title left behind"
Spot on . Losing a final against mediocre opposition does not seem to bother some posters here because we played so well in getting to the final.
There are some potentially good players on that U20 team hopefully with good futures ahead of them at Senior level.
A little bit of cuteness last Friday Night and we could have had a handy U 20 title as Tyrone were no great shakes.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 24/04/2022 13:57:21    2412723

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Replying To BigEZ:  "I don't think you watched any of the games leading up to the final based on what you're saying. Lovett was played inside in every game and Smith played more defensively and worked really hard pressing. I don't think you noticed that Tyrone also dropped sweepers in front of Lovett after 10 minutes so the letting the ball in tactic some people seem to love would be in fact clueless even if Smith had played in the FF line which he hadn't in any of the games leading up to the final.
It's very easy for lads to play the game from the sideline. The lads did very well thought-out the championship and ridiculing 18,19,20 year olds on a forum is very helpful, I'm sure they are hurting bad enough without some yahoo who probably couldn't or never could kick snow of a rope telling them they are clueless."
He doesn't play the game from the sideline as he doesn't even go to matches to support our young men. It would be more accurate to say he plays the game from his couch and get his thought be listening to auld eejit me meets down the pub.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 24/04/2022 19:04:17    2412836

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Replying To fredflint:  "He doesn't play the game from the sideline as he doesn't even go to matches to support our young men. It would be more accurate to say he plays the game from his couch and get his thought be listening to auld eejit me meets down the pub."
Going to the match would not have changed the stupid stuff some of these lads did during the game… Brainless stuff to be honest….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 25/04/2022 07:51:34    2412915

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Going to the match would not have changed the stupid stuff some of these lads did during the game… Brainless stuff to be honest…."
No, but it tells us more about you as a supporter. You're a hurler on the ditch. Cribbing from behind a screen on your couch, but not fit to even travel to matches. Some fan you are

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 26/04/2022 09:55:04    2413254

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Well I was at the 3 matches this weekend. Went to both underage games hoping for a result. Went to Corrigan park expecting a result. None of the 3 results surprised me.
There probably 2/3 from both underage teams capable of the step up to their next level.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 26/04/2022 11:42:57    2413288

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