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Unbelievable win! Team played very well, and simply worked harder to get the tight win. Type of game Cavan have lost hundreds of times over the years, just tackled harder, fought and wanted it more. Jumping up on down in our house. Great to see on TG4, but will be there for final. The strength, and determination to get the 2nd last score by McCann particularly was class, and congrats to the team!

Cavan67 (Cavan) - Posts: 7 - 08/04/2022 21:36:09    2410317

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Fantastic win, it was great that they responded so well when Derry went 2 up, it showed great character that they just kept playing their game and got the scores when needed most. Can we play all our games in the Athletic Grounds!

BreffniGael (Cavan) - Posts: 46 - 08/04/2022 21:44:25    2410318

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These are the days we have missed, hats of to Damien and the team. So well drilled and organised all night. They knew exactly what they were about.
Its actually amazing what can happen once you get the right people in the right places.
Hopefully this is the rebirth of our underage . Well done all.

blueskies (Cavan) - Posts: 194 - 08/04/2022 21:57:52    2410320

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Replying To Cavan67:  "Unbelievable win! Team played very well, and simply worked harder to get the tight win. Type of game Cavan have lost hundreds of times over the years, just tackled harder, fought and wanted it more. Jumping up on down in our house. Great to see on TG4, but will be there for final. The strength, and determination to get the 2nd last score by McCann particularly was class, and congrats to the team!"
Brilliant win, well done to all the u-20 panel and management, good week for Cavan football with st pat's winning the brock cup also.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 882 - 08/04/2022 22:00:45    2410322

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It is great to be in the Ulster Final ..didn't get to see it but the score line would suggest a tough struggle… I hope the same type of slow build up play is not been implemented by this management team… Remember we won 4 in a row Ulsters with defensive football and look where that got us…. We have to change our style of play and hopefully this team are doing just that… Winning an underage title in the same manner as our 4 in a row team would in my mind be a waste of time… I am looking forward to seeing this team playing in the Ulster Final but remember in these sort of competitions it not just all about winning… We made that mistake before…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1927 - 10/04/2022 08:20:12    2410418

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "It is great to be in the Ulster Final ..didn't get to see it but the score line would suggest a tough struggle… I hope the same type of slow build up play is not been implemented by this management team… Remember we won 4 in a row Ulsters with defensive football and look where that got us…. We have to change our style of play and hopefully this team are doing just that… Winning an underage title in the same manner as our 4 in a row team would in my mind be a waste of time… I am looking forward to seeing this team playing in the Ulster Final but remember in these sort of competitions it not just all about winning… We made that mistake before…"
Wow, you just really can't help being negative about absolutely everything, can you?

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 10/04/2022 12:32:31    2410432

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Wow, you just really can't help being negative about absolutely everything, can you?"
Not a negative view… more of a concerning one… I didn't see them play yet but I am hopeful we have learned from our mistakes with our last good group of players at this age group…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1927 - 11/04/2022 07:46:24    2410478

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Not a negative view… more of a concerning one… I didn't see them play yet but I am hopeful we have learned from our mistakes with our last good group of players at this age group…"
You didn't see them play, but you went on a hugely negative rant anyway. Make it make sense to me? Can you not see how idiotic it makes you look? You just go negative regardless. Shows me you cannot be balanced no matter what, as you'll go negative even when you haven't seen something. Tells me about your mindset pal...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 11/04/2022 09:26:08    2410487

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "It is great to be in the Ulster Final ..didn't get to see it but the score line would suggest a tough struggle… I hope the same type of slow build up play is not been implemented by this management team… Remember we won 4 in a row Ulsters with defensive football and look where that got us…. We have to change our style of play and hopefully this team are doing just that… Winning an underage title in the same manner as our 4 in a row team would in my mind be a waste of time… I am looking forward to seeing this team playing in the Ulster Final but remember in these sort of competitions it not just all about winning… We made that mistake before…"
your dead right forever blue better go out and play attractive football and get tanked by 8 or ten points like we have done in the past few years and enjoy the opposition scoring at will.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 454 - 11/04/2022 09:59:49    2410488

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "You didn't see them play, but you went on a hugely negative rant anyway. Make it make sense to me? Can you not see how idiotic it makes you look? You just go negative regardless. Shows me you cannot be balanced no matter what, as you'll go negative even when you haven't seen something. Tells me about your mindset pal..."
You just don't get it…: I haven't seen them play yet as most people… I used the word "IF" which might be above your level of intelligence… in saying I hoped this team have a different way of playing than our senior team and if not it will be another waste of talent…. It's a concern not negativity… wakey wakey Loughduff Lad….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1927 - 11/04/2022 10:01:44    2410489

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "You just don't get it…: I haven't seen them play yet as most people… I used the word "IF" which might be above your level of intelligence… in saying I hoped this team have a different way of playing than our senior team and if not it will be another waste of talent…. It's a concern not negativity… wakey wakey Loughduff Lad…."
All I'm pointing out is how negative you are constantly, and about a team you haven't even seen yet. I'm simply pointing out that you never have a positive thought here, and just go towards the negative every single time. That's all I'm saying.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 11/04/2022 10:31:02    2410495

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "You just don't get it…: I haven't seen them play yet as most people… I used the word "IF" which might be above your level of intelligence… in saying I hoped this team have a different way of playing than our senior team and if not it will be another waste of talent…. It's a concern not negativity… wakey wakey Loughduff Lad…."
You just don't get it…: I haven't seen them play yet as most people… I used the word "IF" which might be above your level of intelligence… in saying I hoped this team have a different way of playing than our senior team and if not it will be another waste of talent…. It's a concern not negativity… wakey wakey Loughduff Lad….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 464 - 11/04/2022 10:01:44

Who cares how they play its about winning titles.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 848 - 11/04/2022 10:43:02    2410497

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Replying To RHF:  "You just don't get it…: I haven't seen them play yet as most people… I used the word "IF" which might be above your level of intelligence… in saying I hoped this team have a different way of playing than our senior team and if not it will be another waste of talent…. It's a concern not negativity… wakey wakey Loughduff Lad….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 464 - 11/04/2022 10:01:44

Who cares how they play its about winning titles."
Exactly. You think Donegal don't care about 2012 as they won the All Ireland playing defensive football? Like the 2011-2014 Ulster titles were won at a time when that style was in vogue. Sure, winning titles in style is great, but we can hardly be picky in Cavan and turn down titles won the way we have. I wouldn't change that time, it was brilliant winning so many underage titles after we had been starved of them for so long. It is all about titles

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 11/04/2022 11:42:30    2410507

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Exactly. You think Donegal don't care about 2012 as they won the All Ireland playing defensive football? Like the 2011-2014 Ulster titles were won at a time when that style was in vogue. Sure, winning titles in style is great, but we can hardly be picky in Cavan and turn down titles won the way we have. I wouldn't change that time, it was brilliant winning so many underage titles after we had been starved of them for so long. It is all about titles"
Under age titles don't mean a whole lot if you are not producing good enough players for to compete at senior level…. We didn't get one decent scoring forward out of those 4 winning teams ( Garoid played but mostly midfield) and how could we with the type of football we played… Galway and Roscommon destroyed us with attacking football but we ran Dublin close by sitting the whole game in defence… It was woeful to watch….. Tyrone lost two of those finals but won multiple senior Ulster titles after… we got one…. All I'm saying is let the players express themselves at this age and don't be hung up on winning a title playing rubbish football ( not saying this team do that)…. When Kerry lost the minor final to Derry I think…Colm Cooper said he wasn't that disappointed as he said 3/4 players performing to a standard that could improve the senior team in a couple of years …. That's what it's all about at minor and now U20 level… winning a title is nice but the real bonus for progressive counties is if they can produce 3/4 players to move to the next level and therefore moving the senior team to the next level… Our senior team for the most part fell through the floor after winning Ulster (U21) 4 years in a row….. 1 Ulster title and the embarrassment of relegation to division 4 shortly afterwards was a poor reward for those 4 wins….but some seem very happy with that…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1927 - 11/04/2022 13:31:26    2410530

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Under age titles don't mean a whole lot if you are not producing good enough players for to compete at senior level…. We didn't get one decent scoring forward out of those 4 winning teams ( Garoid played but mostly midfield) and how could we with the type of football we played… Galway and Roscommon destroyed us with attacking football but we ran Dublin close by sitting the whole game in defence… It was woeful to watch….. Tyrone lost two of those finals but won multiple senior Ulster titles after… we got one…. All I'm saying is let the players express themselves at this age and don't be hung up on winning a title playing rubbish football ( not saying this team do that)…. When Kerry lost the minor final to Derry I think…Colm Cooper said he wasn't that disappointed as he said 3/4 players performing to a standard that could improve the senior team in a couple of years …. That's what it's all about at minor and now U20 level… winning a title is nice but the real bonus for progressive counties is if they can produce 3/4 players to move to the next level and therefore moving the senior team to the next level… Our senior team for the most part fell through the floor after winning Ulster (U21) 4 years in a row….. 1 Ulster title and the embarrassment of relegation to division 4 shortly afterwards was a poor reward for those 4 wins….but some seem very happy with that…"
But if you're never happy, you're never going to be happy. You still admit our Ulster win is a fluke and you couldn't enjoy it. So allow me to ignore anything you say as it's all complete negativity. We hadn't won an underage title for 15 years, and now you want to be this snobby about the way we won the ones that broke that streak? You are actually the pits... I've met some bad supporters in my time, and lord know we've our share of them here in Cavan, but you are by far the worst.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 11/04/2022 14:16:43    2410537

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Doesn't matter how they're won, they all count. We certainly can't be picky in a success starved county like Cavan.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 11/04/2022 14:20:45    2410538

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Doesn't matter how they're won, they all count. We certainly can't be picky in a success starved county like Cavan."
Exactly this. We can't be picky or snobby seeing as we don't get titles here that often

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 11/04/2022 14:31:19    2410542

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Under age titles don't mean a whole lot if you are not producing good enough players for to compete at senior level…. We didn't get one decent scoring forward out of those 4 winning teams ( Garoid played but mostly midfield) and how could we with the type of football we played… Galway and Roscommon destroyed us with attacking football but we ran Dublin close by sitting the whole game in defence… It was woeful to watch….. Tyrone lost two of those finals but won multiple senior Ulster titles after… we got one…. All I'm saying is let the players express themselves at this age and don't be hung up on winning a title playing rubbish football ( not saying this team do that)…. When Kerry lost the minor final to Derry I think…Colm Cooper said he wasn't that disappointed as he said 3/4 players performing to a standard that could improve the senior team in a couple of years …. That's what it's all about at minor and now U20 level… winning a title is nice but the real bonus for progressive counties is if they can produce 3/4 players to move to the next level and therefore moving the senior team to the next level… Our senior team for the most part fell through the floor after winning Ulster (U21) 4 years in a row….. 1 Ulster title and the embarrassment of relegation to division 4 shortly afterwards was a poor reward for those 4 wins….but some seem very happy with that…"
Under age titles don't mean a whole lot if you are not producing good enough players for to compete at senior level…. We didn't get one decent scoring forward out of those 4 winning teams ( Garoid played but mostly midfield) and how could we with the type of football we played… Galway and Roscommon destroyed us with attacking football but we ran Dublin close by sitting the whole game in defence… It was woeful to watch….. Tyrone lost two of those finals but won multiple senior Ulster titles after… we got one…. All I'm saying is let the players express themselves at this age and don't be hung up on winning a title playing rubbish football ( not saying this team do that)…. When Kerry lost the minor final to Derry I think…Colm Cooper said he wasn't that disappointed as he said 3/4 players performing to a standard that could improve the senior team in a couple of years …. That's what it's all about at minor and now U20 level… winning a title is nice but the real bonus for progressive counties is if they can produce 3/4 players to move to the next level and therefore moving the senior team to the next level… Our senior team for the most part fell through the floor after winning Ulster (U21) 4 years in a row….. 1 Ulster title and the embarrassment of relegation to division 4 shortly afterwards was a poor reward for those 4 wins….but some seem very happy with that…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 465 - 11/04/2022 13:31:26

We have been poor at Senior level for the best part of 60 years don't expect that to change anytime soon. We have got to this final the first in years at this age group and all you can do is run down the style of play despite having never seen the team play. You could not make it up!

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 848 - 11/04/2022 14:33:15    2410543

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I think the game of Gaelic football has itself reached a point of no return in terms of the sytle of play now. Every team pulls 15 back when in defence, and then pours forward in attack. The days of catch and kick it long to the inside men and hope for the best are long gone and they're not coming back. Some lament this, some don't. For me I don't remeber the old days, but the games look a lot more professional now, you can watch old clips on youtube and the fitness levels and skill levels were not as high as they are today.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 11/04/2022 16:18:04    2410558

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Replying To RHF:  "Under age titles don't mean a whole lot if you are not producing good enough players for to compete at senior level…. We didn't get one decent scoring forward out of those 4 winning teams ( Garoid played but mostly midfield) and how could we with the type of football we played… Galway and Roscommon destroyed us with attacking football but we ran Dublin close by sitting the whole game in defence… It was woeful to watch….. Tyrone lost two of those finals but won multiple senior Ulster titles after… we got one…. All I'm saying is let the players express themselves at this age and don't be hung up on winning a title playing rubbish football ( not saying this team do that)…. When Kerry lost the minor final to Derry I think…Colm Cooper said he wasn't that disappointed as he said 3/4 players performing to a standard that could improve the senior team in a couple of years …. That's what it's all about at minor and now U20 level… winning a title is nice but the real bonus for progressive counties is if they can produce 3/4 players to move to the next level and therefore moving the senior team to the next level… Our senior team for the most part fell through the floor after winning Ulster (U21) 4 years in a row….. 1 Ulster title and the embarrassment of relegation to division 4 shortly afterwards was a poor reward for those 4 wins….but some seem very happy with that…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 465 - 11/04/2022 13:31:26

We have been poor at Senior level for the best part of 60 years don't expect that to change anytime soon. We have got to this final the first in years at this age group and all you can do is run down the style of play despite having never seen the team play. You could not make it up!"
RHF…. Again like the other lad you are missing the point…. I never gave out about their style of play as I have not seen them in action yet… I was simply saying that I hope their way of playing football is better than what is going on at senior level… If they are being coached to play a slow lateral passing game like the seniors then it's a waste of time.. If that's too hard to understand then I pity your level of intelligence…!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1927 - 11/04/2022 16:20:02    2410559

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