€20m to be spent on ad campaign to stop binge drinking surely this is a waste of money because poeple are not going to take notice of ads or posters to get this message . The money should be giving elswhere like hospitals , cancer units etc instead of this .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 11/03/2010 18:59:28    585730

Totally agree!!

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 11/03/2010 19:51:25    585792

I agree also. Il still drink 22 pints sat nite :)

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 11/03/2010 20:00:16    585803

double the price of drink, get it back in two weeks and might save a life or two

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 11/03/2010 20:02:08    585805

Have to agree Dell, a huge waste of E20m. Not likely to make a bit of difference.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 11/03/2010 20:56:17    585919

Wont make a bit of difference. Its in our genes. Nothing will change that unless we all marry puritans.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 11/03/2010 21:22:19    585959

So why waste €20m as it could go to the places i have stated and things like this is why this country is in trouble.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 11/03/2010 21:49:57    586021

Capitalism has PROMOTED binge drinking for the last 25 years or so. The message has been "go out at the weekend and drink as much as possible, because you will not be drinking during the week when you are at work".

Spending a paltry sum like 20 million to combat this (half an exocet missile?) will not make much difference.

Now if we were to BAN alcohol and legalise drugs, society would be a lot better.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/03/2010 21:56:31    586027

Just wondering if ''the master'' and partrique are serious about doubling the price of alcahol and banning it resprectively?? its already way way too expensive and if u dont wanna drink dont!!! no point punishing people who are sensible with drinking because of a few idiots who arent!! and yes legilising drugs will solve all the worlds problems we can all just sit around all day doin nothin and eating crisps!!

09KY36 (Kerry) - Posts: 329 - 12/03/2010 13:08:10    586295

patrique
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586027 Capitalism has PROMOTED binge drinking for the last 25 years or so. The message has been "go out at the weekend and drink as much as possible, because you will not be drinking during the week when you are at work".

Spending a paltry sum like 20 million to combat this (half an exocet missile?) will not make much difference.

Now if we were to BAN alcohol and legalise drugs, society would be a lot better.

Im sorry Patrique old boy, but never have I heard such drivel and nonsense in my life. How, just how does capitalism come into the equation? Would there be no alcohol if we lived in socialist country? I cant see any link between free enterprise systems and binge drinking. Its a personal choice to drink. Drink companies may encourage it, but at the end of the day its a personal choice. Banning alcohol and legalising drugs? Seems to me all that would be doing is fixing one mess to create another.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 12/03/2010 13:27:46    586314

Patrique, are you aware of the consequences of prohibition between 1920 and 1933 in the U.S.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 12/03/2010 14:00:44    586360

Should anti-drink driving campaigns be banned as well? Anti domestic violence campaigns? Everyone knows these things are totally wrong but they still happen, should our society just say ah it's a waste of money, just give up on them

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 12/03/2010 14:04:37    586370

Scruffy2Donut
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patrique
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586027 Capitalism has PROMOTED binge drinking for the last 25 years or so. The message has been "go out at the weekend and drink as much as possible, because you will not be drinking during the week when you are at work".

Spending a paltry sum like 20 million to combat this (half an exocet missile?) will not make much difference.

Now if we were to BAN alcohol and legalise drugs, society would be a lot better.

Im sorry Patrique old boy, but never have I heard such drivel and nonsense in my life. How, just how does capitalism come into the equation? Would there be no alcohol if we lived in socialist country?


Scruffy, are you pretending to be daft?

Think of the most famous socialist country, Sweden. Do they drink in Sweden? Yes they do.

But TV advertising which helps RUN the world at the behest of the Bilderburg group and others, promotes binge drinking at the weekend. The Bilderburg group as you already know is all the top capitalists.

That includes the biggest peddlers of drugs, the major pharmaceutical firms who would lose billions if cannabis was legal.

So that is where capitalism comes into the equation, as it does in every walk of life.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 12/03/2010 16:57:31    586634

Dr.Shephard
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Patrique, are you aware of the consequences of prohibition between 1920 and 1933 in the U.S.


I am indeed.

Those who continue to ban drugs however obviously are not.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 12/03/2010 16:58:37    586635

Patrique

so both yourself and David icke harbour conspiracy theories about a once a year Lunch

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 12/03/2010 17:23:13    586677

ruanua
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Patrique

so both yourself and David icke harbour conspiracy theories about a once a year Lunch



David Icke once thought he was ME.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 12/03/2010 19:11:11    586805

Scruffy2Donut
County: Cavan
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How, just how does capitalism come into the equation?

Capitalism is all about personal choice, or at least the illusion of personal choice. I wouldn't take Patrique too seriously either.


Dellboypolecat
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€20m to be spent on ad campaign to stop binge drinking surely this is a waste of money because poeple are not going to take notice of ads or posters to get this message . The money should be giving elswhere like hospitals , cancer units etc instead of this .

It mightn't work on adults but the hope is that it'll work on the next generation and save millions on future healthcare costs. This isn't a campaign against people having a social life, it's about trying to limit the inevitable effects of regular heavy alcohol use. Money is spent on public health campaigns with the intention of preventing people from ending up in hospitals and cancer wards (most cancers are preventable) in the future, otherwise you wouldn't be able to build enough hospitals to keep up with demand. Most are already overstretched as it is.

Benandonner (Antrim) - Posts: 459 - 12/03/2010 20:09:32    586838

Patrique,
Swede is run by social democrats, it is not however a socialist country. Social democrats strive for social justice WITHIN the existing capitalist system. There are private companies in Sweden. In fact Swedish industry is largely in the hands of private investors.

Scruffy2Donut (Cavan) - Posts: 1112 - 12/03/2010 21:42:32    586941

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Patrique,
Swede is run by social democrats, it is not however a socialist country. Social democrats strive for social justice WITHIN the existing capitalist system. There are private companies in Sweden. In fact Swedish industry is largely in the hands of private investors.


Obviously Scruffy you have no idea what socialism is, even though you have just described it abive, in your description of Sweden.

Socialism as the name suggests, is about a better society. It can be provided by private enterprise, fmillionaires, multi nationals and what ever else.

It is simply a better distribution of wealth to create a better society for all. Yoiu can still be rich, biut there should be a lot fewer poor.

Do not confuse it with media invented "communism". The only true communist was crucified about 2,000 years ago and no-one has tried it since.

Plenty examples of state capitalism mind you, like China, Cuba, USSR and such.

But the only real socialist country is Sweden, although Canada is not too far away either.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 13/03/2010 14:24:52    587155

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586805 ruanua
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Patrique

so both yourself and David icke harbour conspiracy theories about a once a year Lunch



David Icke once thought he was ME.
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ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 13/03/2010 15:03:22    587180