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Aidan O Shea and that interview.

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AIDAN O SHEAS interview is not in the best interests of Mayo football.His account of the managerial heave was shredded by Martin Breheny in the Indo today

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - 04/05/2017 12:02:33    1984432

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I think it was more his stance than his account that was shredded Brinsley, but certainly it seems a bit unwise. If the panel needs to find itself in a siege situation, this would be the way to go about it. Maybe they need the added factor to push them harder this year... the extra few inches they all keep talking about?

Pericles (Mayo) - 05/05/2017 08:46:27    1984617

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "AIDAN O SHEAS interview is not in the best interests of Mayo football.His account of the managerial heave was shredded by Martin Breheny in the Indo today"
Breheny going over the top with it milking his sacred cow for all its worth

Spoddgy (Mayo) - 05/05/2017 12:34:50    1984671

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Mayo players like AOS need to learn the hacks are always looking for a slip up comment. The media are not your friend. Best to say nothing at all.

yew_tree (Mayo) - 05/05/2017 13:38:14    1984693

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Hes easy prey for journos at the minute. He needs to learn how to bat those types of questions off or else stay away from the mike altogether

unclegerry (Mayo) - 11/05/2017 10:33:02    1985897

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I expect AOS to have his best ever year in 2017, where it matters, on the field.

martinjoe (Mayo) - 12/05/2017 16:26:47    1986285

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My advice to AOS would be to stop doing commercial and GAA launches, keep the head down and concentrate on producing the goods in big games.

gahfan (Wexford) - 18/05/2017 15:10:41    1987985

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Replying To gahfan:  "My advice to AOS would be to stop doing commercial and GAA launches, keep the head down and concentrate on producing the goods in big games."
Yeah and avoid kids like the plague eh :/

yew_tree (Mayo) - 18/05/2017 20:08:16    1988095

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Yeah and avoid kids like the plague eh :/"
Well it's priorities really

gahfan (Wexford) - 18/05/2017 22:06:20    1988135

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Yeah and avoid kids like the plague eh :/"
James Horan had a pop at Bernard Flynn rather crudely writing that Flynn made a " tit of himself" by having a go at Aidan for signing selfies after a challenge match against Meath. Flynn was over the top in my opinion,but he is no fool and has the 2 All Ireland medals to prove it.He also almost beat Down on his own in an All Ireland final.He always performed for Meath on the big days in Croke Park.

James rightly had a pop at Fergal Connolly an emminent sports psychologist.He has a C.V that transends many sports at the very highest professional level. He has been involved professionally at the highest levels in Soccer,Rugby and American football.His own definitive book on sports psychology is due on the bookshelves in September.He has been helping the Dubs over the last 4 years
In a wide ranging interview with Paul Kimmage in yesterdays Indo one would be impressed by the range of his professional achievements.However his pop at Aidan O Shea and his statement that "Mayo will never win an All Ireland in my lifetime" was uncalled for ,was unworthy,and clearly had no sports science evidence to back it up.

One very good point Connolly made was the mouthing of Mayo players at half time in a League game against Dublin in Croke Park when they were leading by four points at half time.Connolly encountered the Mayo players at half time as he headed for the Dublin dressing room and they slagged him off about his stats. Dublin recovered to win that game.

That incident was on Horans watch and he should have alluded to it in the Star to give balance to the content of his writing.Indeed many supporters have halos on the heads of these Mayo players and refuse to countenance any criticism of them whatsoever. The facts are that their disciplinary record is among the worst in the country. They consistently incur the ire of refs and linesmen for their mouthing,sledging and continous "debating"of decisions. On Sunday Cillian was again booked cheaply when the game was almost over.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - 23/05/2017 14:32:43    1989825

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "James Horan had a pop at Bernard Flynn rather crudely writing that Flynn made a " tit of himself" by having a go at Aidan for signing selfies after a challenge match against Meath. Flynn was over the top in my opinion,but he is no fool and has the 2 All Ireland medals to prove it.He also almost beat Down on his own in an All Ireland final.He always performed for Meath on the big days in Croke Park.

James rightly had a pop at Fergal Connolly an emminent sports psychologist.He has a C.V that transends many sports at the very highest professional level. He has been involved professionally at the highest levels in Soccer,Rugby and American football.His own definitive book on sports psychology is due on the bookshelves in September.He has been helping the Dubs over the last 4 years
In a wide ranging interview with Paul Kimmage in yesterdays Indo one would be impressed by the range of his professional achievements.However his pop at Aidan O Shea and his statement that "Mayo will never win an All Ireland in my lifetime" was uncalled for ,was unworthy,and clearly had no sports science evidence to back it up.

One very good point Connolly made was the mouthing of Mayo players at half time in a League game against Dublin in Croke Park when they were leading by four points at half time.Connolly encountered the Mayo players at half time as he headed for the Dublin dressing room and they slagged him off about his stats. Dublin recovered to win that game.

That incident was on Horans watch and he should have alluded to it in the Star to give balance to the content of his writing.Indeed many supporters have halos on the heads of these Mayo players and refuse to countenance any criticism of them whatsoever. The facts are that their disciplinary record is among the worst in the country. They consistently incur the ire of refs and linesmen for their mouthing,sledging and continous "debating"of decisions. On Sunday Cillian was again booked cheaply when the game was almost over."
Do what it takes to win, still missing one or two things in that depardment namely in the forwards. What do we want to go back to being nice footballers going to croke park with big happy heads on us? I know they could improve certain aspects of the discipline at least enough to be a bit more cuter.

Spoddgy (Mayo) - 24/05/2017 11:09:07    1990160

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "James Horan had a pop at Bernard Flynn rather crudely writing that Flynn made a " tit of himself" by having a go at Aidan for signing selfies after a challenge match against Meath. Flynn was over the top in my opinion,but he is no fool and has the 2 All Ireland medals to prove it.He also almost beat Down on his own in an All Ireland final.He always performed for Meath on the big days in Croke Park.

James rightly had a pop at Fergal Connolly an emminent sports psychologist.He has a C.V that transends many sports at the very highest professional level. He has been involved professionally at the highest levels in Soccer,Rugby and American football.His own definitive book on sports psychology is due on the bookshelves in September.He has been helping the Dubs over the last 4 years
In a wide ranging interview with Paul Kimmage in yesterdays Indo one would be impressed by the range of his professional achievements.However his pop at Aidan O Shea and his statement that "Mayo will never win an All Ireland in my lifetime" was uncalled for ,was unworthy,and clearly had no sports science evidence to back it up.

One very good point Connolly made was the mouthing of Mayo players at half time in a League game against Dublin in Croke Park when they were leading by four points at half time.Connolly encountered the Mayo players at half time as he headed for the Dublin dressing room and they slagged him off about his stats. Dublin recovered to win that game.

That incident was on Horans watch and he should have alluded to it in the Star to give balance to the content of his writing.Indeed many supporters have halos on the heads of these Mayo players and refuse to countenance any criticism of them whatsoever. The facts are that their disciplinary record is among the worst in the country. They consistently incur the ire of refs and linesmen for their mouthing,sledging and continous "debating"of decisions. On Sunday Cillian was again booked cheaply when the game was almost over."
Should we go back to the nice boys of the past. God forbid we ever have to sit in a final involving Mayo again, embarrassed that the game is over after 20mins. Mayo have a few hard players that play on the edge. As for debating a referee decision, not defending it but I think you will find many teams do it.

yew_tree (Mayo) - 24/05/2017 11:24:28    1990172

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "James Horan had a pop at Bernard Flynn rather crudely writing that Flynn made a " tit of himself" by having a go at Aidan for signing selfies after a challenge match against Meath. Flynn was over the top in my opinion,but he is no fool and has the 2 All Ireland medals to prove it.He also almost beat Down on his own in an All Ireland final.He always performed for Meath on the big days in Croke Park.

James rightly had a pop at Fergal Connolly an emminent sports psychologist.He has a C.V that transends many sports at the very highest professional level. He has been involved professionally at the highest levels in Soccer,Rugby and American football.His own definitive book on sports psychology is due on the bookshelves in September.He has been helping the Dubs over the last 4 years
In a wide ranging interview with Paul Kimmage in yesterdays Indo one would be impressed by the range of his professional achievements.However his pop at Aidan O Shea and his statement that "Mayo will never win an All Ireland in my lifetime" was uncalled for ,was unworthy,and clearly had no sports science evidence to back it up.

One very good point Connolly made was the mouthing of Mayo players at half time in a League game against Dublin in Croke Park when they were leading by four points at half time.Connolly encountered the Mayo players at half time as he headed for the Dublin dressing room and they slagged him off about his stats. Dublin recovered to win that game.

That incident was on Horans watch and he should have alluded to it in the Star to give balance to the content of his writing.Indeed many supporters have halos on the heads of these Mayo players and refuse to countenance any criticism of them whatsoever. The facts are that their disciplinary record is among the worst in the country. They consistently incur the ire of refs and linesmen for their mouthing,sledging and continous "debating"of decisions. On Sunday Cillian was again booked cheaply when the game was almost over."
Are you for real? We're in the ha'penny's place compared to some teams when it comes to mouthing off to the opposition. Mayo have a hard edge to them that was absent in the 2000s in particular, and the more I hear opposition players or fans whingeing about it, the more I like it.

Gleebo (Mayo) - 24/05/2017 16:05:45    1990309

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Are you for real? We're in the ha'penny's place compared to some teams when it comes to mouthing off to the opposition. Mayo have a hard edge to them that was absent in the 2000s in particular, and the more I hear opposition players or fans whingeing about it, the more I like it."
The point I was trying to make is that because of the their attitude to the refs authority Mayo have been on the receiving end of some very harsh marginal calls in semi finals and finals.

Also in last years All Ireland final replay a member of the management was almost a 16th man for Mayo such was the amount of time he spent on the pitch. He spent the duration of the game berating the ref and the linesmen.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - 25/05/2017 13:29:50    1990642

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Are you for real? We're in the ha'penny's place compared to some teams when it comes to mouthing off to the opposition. Mayo have a hard edge to them that was absent in the 2000s in particular, and the more I hear opposition players or fans whingeing about it, the more I like it."
In 2004 and 2006 Mayo were well beaten by a better team. There is a subtle difference between genuine mental and physical toughness and the so called "hard edge". The" hard edge " involves testing out what you can get away with off the ball and personal sledging of an opponent.It stems from bad coaching and poor discipline from players.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - 25/05/2017 13:36:09    1990647

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "In 2004 and 2006 Mayo were well beaten by a better team. There is a subtle difference between genuine mental and physical toughness and the so called "hard edge". The" hard edge " involves testing out what you can get away with off the ball and personal sledging of an opponent.It stems from bad coaching and poor discipline from players."
About time Mayo players got a bit of steel in them, in the final in 96 also they let Meath players push them all over the field without response and took some sledging from them also and never answered back , just complained after the game was over, again in 97 they let Maurice Fitz waltz through them without ever laying a finger on him, even the Management never switched a new man on till the games was over as a contest. Lot to be said for The Kerry way - get the retaliation in first, and chance the card .

culmore (None) - 25/05/2017 17:29:59    1990748

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Replying To culmore:  "About time Mayo players got a bit of steel in them, in the final in 96 also they let Meath players push them all over the field without response and took some sledging from them also and never answered back , just complained after the game was over, again in 97 they let Maurice Fitz waltz through them without ever laying a finger on him, even the Management never switched a new man on till the games was over as a contest. Lot to be said for The Kerry way - get the retaliation in first, and chance the card ."
You Culmore have a jaundiced view of Kerry football. Kerry in Croke Park usually come alive and are confident in their players and ability In the replay of 1996 all the Mayo players fought their corner in the big row except Holmes and Finnerty

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - 26/05/2017 11:12:31    1990936

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "You Culmore have a jaundiced view of Kerry football. Kerry in Croke Park usually come alive and are confident in their players and ability In the replay of 1996 all the Mayo players fought their corner in the big row except Holmes and Finnerty"
A bit of steel? I have pointed out well before game about the ill discipline pervading this group of players. It cost them dearly on Sunday.The management again picked the wrong 15 to start what was an onerous task. Vaughan for O Boyle tactical? No just modern management complicating a simple game. In a local derby war Boyler is the main man.He also uses the ball better than Vaughan.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - 13/06/2017 14:57:41    1999134

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "A bit of steel? I have pointed out well before game about the ill discipline pervading this group of players. It cost them dearly on Sunday.The management again picked the wrong 15 to start what was an onerous task. Vaughan for O Boyle tactical? No just modern management complicating a simple game. In a local derby war Boyler is the main man.He also uses the ball better than Vaughan."
Sounds a bit anti moygownagh!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - 13/06/2017 20:44:52    1999307

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Replying To Brinsley Swartz:  "In 2004 and 2006 Mayo were well beaten by a better team. There is a subtle difference between genuine mental and physical toughness and the so called "hard edge". The" hard edge " involves testing out what you can get away with off the ball and personal sledging of an opponent.It stems from bad coaching and poor discipline from players."
Would you ever give over? Beaten by a better team, yes, but also bulldozed in all of the physical collisions and lacking in any game smarts (David Brady and one or two others aside). In the All-Ireland final of 2006, Mayo scored just three points in the second half, all of which were close-in frees from Conor Mortimer. Around the same period, several teams of similar quality to Mayo (thinking of Dublin, Monaghan and Cork in particular) ran Kerry close in the latter stages of the championship. Mayo just hadn't developed the physical or mental toughness to compete back then.

So I'm not particularly bothered if other teams complain that we're too rugged or confrontational, tbh. There are other failings (a lack of support for Cilian and Andy in the forwards, vulnerability in front of our own square especially) that explain why Sam continues to elude us.

Gleebo (Mayo) - 14/06/2017 10:15:58    1999447

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