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Format Of Club Championships 2020

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Replying To valley84:  "Gone to U19, U17, U15, U13, U11, U9 and now U7

Don't know why this wasn't decided last October or November."
It was not decided in Oct/Nov because underage clubs did not want change to odd ages, simply as that. Senior County Board pushed for this to happen, inviting in senior club reps to discuss it only. Note no minor board meeting was held in all this time to review ages as they knew underage reps would vote against. Great fun now finding trainers for 7,11,13,15, 17 & 19 at this late stage, not saying it cannot be done but a right pain in the ass for clubs find volunteers/parents to take odd teams.

Convert2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 23/01/2020 21:35:26    2261848

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Replying To Convert2:  "It was not decided in Oct/Nov because underage clubs did not want change to odd ages, simply as that. Senior County Board pushed for this to happen, inviting in senior club reps to discuss it only. Note no minor board meeting was held in all this time to review ages as they knew underage reps would vote against. Great fun now finding trainers for 7,11,13,15, 17 & 19 at this late stage, not saying it cannot be done but a right pain in the ass for clubs find volunteers/parents to take odd teams."
is U19 now underage? a lot of young 17 year old will probably walk away if it's a Mickey mouse U19 competition or if they have to join adult panels to get regular football,

Westmeathgeal (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 24/01/2020 18:53:45    2261978

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Replying To Convert2:  "It was not decided in Oct/Nov because underage clubs did not want change to odd ages, simply as that. Senior County Board pushed for this to happen, inviting in senior club reps to discuss it only. Note no minor board meeting was held in all this time to review ages as they knew underage reps would vote against. Great fun now finding trainers for 7,11,13,15, 17 & 19 at this late stage, not saying it cannot be done but a right pain in the ass for clubs find volunteers/parents to take odd teams."
Not like Westmeath CB to shut down debate... Or questions or any sort of scrutiny

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1735 - 24/01/2020 21:14:54    2262006

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U19 will fall under the control of the county board, not the minor committee.
The adopted planning report included for U19 league and championships with 3 divisions.
No dates suggested as yet.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 668 - 24/01/2020 21:39:05    2262014

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Replying To BigSur:  "U19 will fall under the control of the county board, not the minor committee.
The adopted planning report included for U19 league and championships with 3 divisions.
No dates suggested as yet."
What dates would people recommend???
Most u19 players will be away in college till may and a lot of them will be involved with their adult teams all summer. This is a joke of competition.
The decision 3 years ago from Croke park to change from u14/16/18 to u13/15/17 is one of the strangest decision ever made in the GAA.
It was not broken so why change it?
We will now lose more young players because after u17 there will be no football for them if they are too small or haven't developed fully to play adult football

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 47 - 24/01/2020 22:56:52    2262038

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Replying To BigSur:  "U19 will fall under the control of the county board, not the minor committee.
The adopted planning report included for U19 league and championships with 3 divisions.
No dates suggested as yet."
The top table were following a Croke Park Directive which was 13/15/17/19, no matter what the clubs wanted. The vote was 29 to 27 For change. The 29 included 10 votes from the top table ,so in fact the clubs voted 27 to 19 against but lost out to the top table who were always voting Yes.

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 53 - 29/01/2020 18:07:17    2263569

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Replying To Temple56:  "What dates would people recommend???
Most u19 players will be away in college till may and a lot of them will be involved with their adult teams all summer. This is a joke of competition.
The decision 3 years ago from Croke park to change from u14/16/18 to u13/15/17 is one of the strangest decision ever made in the GAA.
It was not broken so why change it?
We will now lose more young players because after u17 there will be no football for them if they are too small or haven't developed fully to play adult football"
When 17 year olds were barred from playing adult competitions the GAA had to then move minor back to 17.
Every other change has stemmed from this silly decision.
And the GAA rarely changes it's mind or goes back as that would mean admitting that they got it wrong in the first place.
Democracy is not alive and well in Westmeath GAA

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1735 - 29/01/2020 20:41:59    2263619

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Just read this weeks Westmeath Indo. Sad to see the top table decided the change to the odd grade. These guys do what croke park say. Not a spine between them

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 126 - 29/01/2020 21:46:59    2263638

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Just read this weeks Westmeath Indo. Sad to see the top table decided the change to the odd grade. These guys do what croke park say.

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 126 - 29/01/2020 21:47:04    2263639

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First round of games and provisional dates

https://westmeathgaa.ie/westmeath-football-draws-2020/

martyW (Westmeath) - Posts: 246 - 13/02/2020 10:37:48    2267468

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Very Interesting Draws last night..
Shams v Lomans
The Downs V Kinnegad
Rosemount V Garycastle
Bridge v Mtpass
Milltown v Ballinacrigy..

Alot of local derbies..you would think it was fixed!!

gti (Westmeath) - Posts: 183 - 13/02/2020 14:15:53    2267520

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One point about the format of the Junior Championships which seems to keep cropping up. In Junior 1 Football Championship in 2020 there will be the second teams of The Downs, Athlone, St Lomans and Garrycastle. The remainder of teams wishing to enter a second team are in Junior 2. All 'proper' Junior Clubs are in Junior 1 divided into Groups 1 and 2. This is the be all and end all for the 8 Junior teams in our county and while I do not doubt the intentions of second teams to go out and win it, they will mostly be either looking at this competition as a stepping stone to their first teams or as a way to continue playing at a lower grade from where they had been. The unfortunate consequence of putting a Championship together like this is the fact that fixtures can have a huge effect on the eventual outcome. Playing one of the second teams in April and playing them in July could be two very different prospects as most of them will weaken during the year due to players moving up to cover injuries/suspensions. Hopefully between all 8 Junior teams, one of them wins the Championship and none of them drop into Junior 2 as that could be a nail in the coffin for some clubs

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 296 - 13/02/2020 16:55:16    2267547

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