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I know there is a lot of football to be played throughout the year and getting all the fixtures in is hard work but I personally think this trend of end of season walkovers in the leagues is a worrying sign and something that our good friends in the MDL have been struggling with for years. This needs to be addressed and fines and point deductions must be handed out. These walkovers are not limited to the lower leagues! Discuss. The Big Horse (Meath) - Posts: 28 - 17/08/2016 17:14:28 1902382 Link
Replying To The Big Horse: "I know there is a lot of football to be played throughout the year and getting all the fixtures in is hard work but I personally think this trend of end of season walkovers in the leagues is a worrying sign and something that our good friends in the MDL have been struggling with for years. This needs to be addressed and fines and point deductions must be handed out. These walkovers are not limited to the lower leagues! Discuss." Several walkovers given in Reserve B league (3rd teams) Dunshaughlin gave up after a couple of games. The league was formed by taking teams from the B leagues and throwing them into their own 3rd team reserve league. If it was thought through it could have been invaluable to give lads football. The end result was 7 games for each team. Is there Promotion? There cant be any relegation. There doesn't appear to be any plan whatsoever. Without a proper pathway to a higher standard of league then the walkovers will just keep coming because there are no consequences to conceding fixtures in a league like that. A high profile team gave a walkover but it is hard to believe they would rather concede the fixture than give a few lads a run out and it impacted some other teams fielding for a fixture and trying to maintain their league status. Blogger (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 17/08/2016 23:05:53 1902535 Link
Replying To The Big Horse: "I know there is a lot of football to be played throughout the year and getting all the fixtures in is hard work but I personally think this trend of end of season walkovers in the leagues is a worrying sign and something that our good friends in the MDL have been struggling with for years. This needs to be addressed and fines and point deductions must be handed out. These walkovers are not limited to the lower leagues! Discuss." You are on the wrong tread !!MDL - I do not follow the soccer although I did play a bit. Why are you concerned or are you one of the guys who expects someone else to keep you in a higher division. Lesson 1: If you want to be successful train hard and play well and get promoted by your own ability browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 18/08/2016 12:14:32 1902697 Link
Replying To browncows: "You are on the wrong tread !!MDL - I do not follow the soccer although I did play a bit. Why are you concerned or are you one of the guys who expects someone else to keep you in a higher division. Lesson 1: If you want to be successful train hard and play well and get promoted by your own ability" Say what? I am not on the wrong site or forum, far from it. I was simply making a point and a comparison. The simplistic few of train harder and get promoted etc on your own ability is so backwards. If you want a simplistic few that actually makes sense then teams should not be allowed to give walkovers without consequences. I totally understand that some smaller clubs and those going through tough times can find it extremely difficult but the likes of O'Mahonys, Wolfe Tones etc and others who have an abundance of players is not good enough in my view. The Big Horse (Meath) - Posts: 28 - 18/08/2016 12:26:33 1902709 Link
The Big Horse - I do take your point made, however no team irrespective of grade or level should expect another team to keep them in a particular grade. I have not much sympathy for blaming others when it comes to winning or losing or conceding two or four points as clubs in the higher grades need to concede at least 16 points to get demoted and it does not effect their senior championship status which is important. All teams including the larger clubs have panels for each grade. Are you aware why some teams did not fulfil fixtures- maybe they had very good reasons - I do not know therefore I do not comment on rights or wrongs of same. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 18/08/2016 12:53:58 1902727 Link
Replying To The Big Horse: "Say what? I am not on the wrong site or forum, far from it. I was simply making a point and a comparison. The simplistic few of train harder and get promoted etc on your own ability is so backwards. If you want a simplistic few that actually makes sense then teams should not be allowed to give walkovers without consequences. I totally understand that some smaller clubs and those going through tough times can find it extremely difficult but the likes of O'Mahonys, Wolfe Tones etc and others who have an abundance of players is not good enough in my view." agree with big horse teams that can put out 3 teams should not be giving walkovers in their first team league, surely if you can field 3 championship teams you can get 15 for the league srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 18/08/2016 13:44:33 1902760 Link
Replying To srgt_slaughter: "agree with big horse teams that can put out 3 teams should not be giving walkovers in their first team league, surely if you can field 3 championship teams you can get 15 for the league" The recent walkover given by Navan O'Mahonys was one of the most appalling seen so far in this or any season. Given that the effect of the match concession was to guarantee the survival of Wolfe Tones at the expense of three other clubs, it simply should not be let rest as it is. O'Mahonys did not spare St.Colmcilles earlier in the league. Will there be a walkover conceded to Skryne in the final match? Watch this space. Ibbecek (Meath) - Posts: 196 - 20/08/2016 15:59:27 1903571 Link
Tones would have beaten them anyhow Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 23/08/2016 11:47:14 1904812 Link
Replying To Analyst: "Tones would have beaten them anyhow" Overheard at Division 'C" match on Sunday. I believe Wolfe Tones secretary has ordered an extra special Christmas Card for O'Mahonys next Christmas. Ibbecek (Meath) - Posts: 196 - 23/08/2016 14:06:33 1904872 Link
I believe Trim have given The Bracks a walkover tonight in Division 2 Royal_Gunner (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 23/08/2016 15:05:51 1904908 Link
Replying To Royal_Gunner: "I believe Trim have given The Bracks a walkover tonight in Division 2" Yes Trim have given Ballinabrackey a walkover tonight. Can anybody explain this? Trim have a team in the quarters of the intermediate and junior b..........................how can they not field?? Its tough on these big town teams. The Big Horse (Meath) - Posts: 28 - 23/08/2016 15:43:01 1904929 Link
Replying To The Big Horse: "Yes Trim have given Ballinabrackey a walkover tonight. Can anybody explain this? Trim have a team in the quarters of the intermediate and junior b..........................how can they not field?? Its tough on these big town teams." Probably because they have hurling training tonight and cant make a league game that is no use to them now as they cant risk injuring one of the players. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 23/08/2016 17:06:30 1904972 Link
Replying To Irish_downunder: "Probably because they have hurling training tonight and cant make a league game that is no use to them now as they cant risk injuring one of the players." They will need to win last round to stay out of relegation Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 23/08/2016 18:20:06 1905014 Link
I'm from the general area but not connected to the club, and it wouldn't surprise me if it was due to hurling. A look at the league tables shows Trim are safe as it is so it'd only be a risk for players to get injured after they played sunday, and they're going into 2 important weekends of hurling. I always reckoned we've too many league games in football anyway. It just results in dead rubbers and teams losing interest. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 23/08/2016 18:27:35 1905017 Link
Should we not title this tread 'Whingers' My advice for all those whingers their clubs would be better trying to win their own matches and stop relying on others to keep them in a particular grade. At this time of year most clubs do not give a whit about the league unless you are in the top 4 or bottom 4 -end off. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/08/2016 19:02:40 1905025 Link
Trim's walkover to Ballinabrackey falls into the same category as O'Mahonys and Tones. They both have the same excuse. - None and total disrespect for Coiste na Mi. Ibbecek (Meath) - Posts: 196 - 23/08/2016 22:30:17 1905107 Link
Replying To Ibbecek: "Trim's walkover to Ballinabrackey falls into the same category as O'Mahonys and Tones. They both have the same excuse. - None and total disrespect for Coiste na Mi." At least they let people know unlike the majority of junior teams who just don't show up. or show up and ask for a few lads to make up 15. Should just disband all grades below Junior a/b.. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 24/08/2016 08:15:01 1905164 Link
Ibbecek - You should try to play a bit of football or hurling yourself instead of coming on here to have a good whinge. And then ! maybe you would be fully occupied and maybe not be so concerned about others clubs. The best of luck to all clubs left in the championship and hard luck to the one who have bowed out. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 24/08/2016 10:31:45 1905222 Link
This nonsense comeback to this argument that clubs should look after themselves and maybe if they put in more effort and stop relying on other clubs.................is actually one of the stupidest points anybody could make. Obviously there are teams at different standards and levels and some with better players and if the teams that are slightly weaker (and not because of a lack of effort or desire) are let down by other teams who cant even fulfill their fixtures then it is a problem. The Big Horse (Meath) - Posts: 28 - 24/08/2016 11:07:36 1905243 Link
Its not a problem. It is only a problem that they have created for themselves by simply not being good enough to get them into the right position in the leagues. Seriously though if you are in a position of relegation being a possibility at this point in the league, you would be better off going down a division and starting again. Just because some clubs have actual CHAMPIONSHIP ambitions and don't give the league a second thought about playing games that have no bearing on their position win or lose, is their god given right. Why would trim play a game that could injure their players when win or lose would not get them into promotion or relegation positions. Most clubs look on the Leagues as a hindrance, and it is only useful at the start of the year to get miles on the legs and to blood some youth. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 24/08/2016 11:58:32 1905274 Link