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O'Dowd slams pundits who "rip decent people apart"

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Could someone fill me in on what pundit gave micko a hard time. Or was he just generalising his comments.seems strange he come out now after 3 years

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 11/07/2016 18:54:29    1881224

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Replying To Reco:  "Could someone fill me in on what pundit gave micko a hard time. Or was he just generalising his comments.seems strange he come out now after 3 years"
Honestly don't know what he is talking about.Infact he got it very light compared to past managers.If he can't handle it,well..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 11/07/2016 18:57:08    1881226

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Must be some bar room know it all...and who actually cares..onwards and upwards

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 11/07/2016 19:07:29    1881234

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Replying To Reco:  "Could someone fill me in on what pundit gave micko a hard time. Or was he just generalising his comments.seems strange he come out now after 3 years"
Have no idea what he is talking about, actually he was given a very easy time of it, particularly by local media, he was never pulled up on teams lack of fitness, second half collapses, strange selections, and generally not knowing what he was supposed to do.
I think this is another excuse and deflection tactic (which would appear to be something he IS actually good at)
Rather than holding his hands up and saying sorry to the players and supporters, and hoping whom ever takes over can undo the mess that has been created.
On a positive note, he's gone.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/07/2016 19:18:23    1881244

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Replying To Reco:  "Could someone fill me in on what pundit gave micko a hard time. Or was he just generalising his comments.seems strange he come out now after 3 years"
That is a good question ..i give out about pundits all the time because it's a wash rinse repeat system they have going on plus they are very tribal and double talk seem to be their currency ..i don't think any pundits ever said anything about mod..actually do they even know he exsists because Meath are gone of the map for the last few years..for example no pundit ever said anything bad about the Carlow manger!

Anyway wish Mod the very best in life and may he and his family have a long and wonderful life !

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 11/07/2016 19:23:00    1881251

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Strange comments, though he was given an easy time by pundits in general.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 11/07/2016 19:32:48    1881260

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During some league games their was abuse thrown at him and it is a sad reflection on the kind of some of our so called supporters. You would be better off without support if one had to rely on guys with that type of behaviour. All county teams have unfortunately a small element of supporters who never go to club matches but will go to county matches and spout abuse at the first opportunity either to the opposition supporters or the team manager. Some of the guys shouting at him would not know whether the ball was filled with air or mushrooms.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 11/07/2016 19:45:03    1881271

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I think he was referring to the pundits on here

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 11/07/2016 19:48:34    1881278

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Let's be honest....


No other counties would have stood for this.

After the miserable whimpering defeat to Armagh in 2014 I was astounded he didn't resign.

Zero confidence since then. The 'soft' Meath mentality of the last 15 years compounded into 4 years.

If he showed a bit of arrogance and bite then maybe Meath might have won a qualifier game.

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 11/07/2016 20:08:27    1881296

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Replying To Royalio11:  "Let's be honest....


No other counties would have stood for this.

After the miserable whimpering defeat to Armagh in 2014 I was astounded he didn't resign.

Zero confidence since then. The 'soft' Meath mentality of the last 15 years compounded into 4 years.

If he showed a bit of arrogance and bite then maybe Meath might have won a qualifier game."
Excellent post, 100% spot on. Totally agree

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/07/2016 20:15:39    1881305

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He deserves most of the criticism labelled at him from a managerial perspective. Too often his teams were neither good enough, fit enough or tactically sound. If it got personal then that's wrong obviously, but he's been a very poor Meath manager.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 11/07/2016 21:28:23    1881383

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Excellent post, 100% spot on. Totally agree"
Absolutely agree ! Nice man no question about that ! Thanks MOD for giving it your best shot. Not ALL his fault though.as we need quite a few players to get back to where we belong. CB could have been much more helpful by being less arrogant in the way he was re appointed last year. Clubs must take the blame also by accepting the position .They could, and should have dug in. Our current position is no surprise as was predicted repeatedly by several posters on this forum. However, all history now,and the only learning points to take away . CB arrogance and competence questionable in these circumstances. Clubs need to stand up and be counted. Local media need to say it as it is without fear.Their job is to report on reality , rather than be seen to take sides. Forward now ,but this time let us learn from those mistakes, because only then can we rise again. Thanks again Micko and staff, and especially to the playing panel for your efforts and time in this difficult period .

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 11/07/2016 21:33:16    1881390

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I actually agree with MOD, comments. Don't get me wrong, critisism is part of life, but there is critisism and then there is belittlement.

Maybe MOD is not actually talking about abuse he actually received in general, but in fact the whole generalisation of the abuse and slaughtering that pundits in suits offer week in, week out about various managers and teams set-ups. He was slatted on numerous occasions (v Dublin) on the Sunday Game, both live and on the highlights, by the various pundits on both shows. Even though I was at the match, I saw the highlights programme, and watched it and the live version back a few times the week after the match on rte player. I will say, there wasn't much pleasantries directed in MOD's direction. (Please note that the second half performance was poor, and maybe warranted).

This said, the verbal abuse that was thrown towards MOD, by our own supporters, on Saturday throughout the match, particularly near the end, was nothing short of disrespectful and disgusting. This is why I will not bring my young son to matches, as I refuse to let him hear the language and personal slanders thrown at managers (and players, our own or not). This is something that, I only ever witnessed at English soccer matches, but is most definitely creeping into the GAA supporters, or should I say armchair critics, behaviours in the last number if years.

Anybody who has managed teams at club level, never mind county level, will know the time, energy, dedication and efforts put into it. (Your life goes on hold). It is simply unbelievable, (and trust me I have done my share of it), but this is unfortunately not understood by most. And I feel, most critically, by those pundits who actually successfully played at a high level.

This said, I feel MOD wasn't up to the job, and we as a county have to take collective responsibility. We vote the county board; we vote the representative to the county board, who all make decisions on our behalf, arrogantly or not, to the goodness and or detriment of the county. This is something that we all, have to take account for. The sorry situation we find ourselves in, is because of poor decisions both on and off the field, over the last number of years. Myself included, we need to make it better and support each other to get Meath football back where it belongs.

David (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 11/07/2016 22:43:53    1881452

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Replying To David:  "I actually agree with MOD, comments. Don't get me wrong, critisism is part of life, but there is critisism and then there is belittlement.

Maybe MOD is not actually talking about abuse he actually received in general, but in fact the whole generalisation of the abuse and slaughtering that pundits in suits offer week in, week out about various managers and teams set-ups. He was slatted on numerous occasions (v Dublin) on the Sunday Game, both live and on the highlights, by the various pundits on both shows. Even though I was at the match, I saw the highlights programme, and watched it and the live version back a few times the week after the match on rte player. I will say, there wasn't much pleasantries directed in MOD's direction. (Please note that the second half performance was poor, and maybe warranted).

This said, the verbal abuse that was thrown towards MOD, by our own supporters, on Saturday throughout the match, particularly near the end, was nothing short of disrespectful and disgusting. This is why I will not bring my young son to matches, as I refuse to let him hear the language and personal slanders thrown at managers (and players, our own or not). This is something that, I only ever witnessed at English soccer matches, but is most definitely creeping into the GAA supporters, or should I say armchair critics, behaviours in the last number if years.

Anybody who has managed teams at club level, never mind county level, will know the time, energy, dedication and efforts put into it. (Your life goes on hold). It is simply unbelievable, (and trust me I have done my share of it), but this is unfortunately not understood by most. And I feel, most critically, by those pundits who actually successfully played at a high level.

This said, I feel MOD wasn't up to the job, and we as a county have to take collective responsibility. We vote the county board; we vote the representative to the county board, who all make decisions on our behalf, arrogantly or not, to the goodness and or detriment of the county. This is something that we all, have to take account for. The sorry situation we find ourselves in, is because of poor decisions both on and off the field, over the last number of years. Myself included, we need to make it better and support each other to get Meath football back where it belongs."
Excellent post, I agree 100% with your views here. The responsibility for where we find ourselves extends well beyond Mick O'Dowd, it's true that in the last two years in particular he has overseen a steady and worrying decline and despite players missing for various reasons the buck stops with the manager and his back room team and some of the decisions regarding tactics and substitutions have been causing plenty of head scratching but I have said before that the various incarnations of the county board and club delegates have to shoulder substantial blame, the last manager of promise we had, being the one who showed progress, was Eamon O'Brien and we all know the thanks he got, the internal actions of 2010 have had lasting ramifications for the senior team in terms of Bantys appointment and then MOD both of which ended disastrously, the Banty scenario was bordering embarrassment with the vote in his continuing in 2012. We have some traction now at underage which needs to be continued, we have a core of players on the senior squad that I believe are capable of much better than what they have produced with the right manager and back room team in charge so the appointment is crucial, will it be the right choice?? At present I would have no confidence that it will be but as always I live in hope.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 12/07/2016 00:03:04    1881482

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This is the full article ... http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/odowd-slams-pundits-as-he-quits-meath-job-34872423.html

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 12/07/2016 00:58:58    1881486

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Very well said David- verbal abuse! I would not like to use the word that I would attribute to those who throw such abuse and if it were possible they should be barred from matches.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 12/07/2016 01:15:03    1881487

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Anybody on this saying MOD got off lightly clearly has their head buried in the sand. OK he may not have been the talk of the TV every week but I've lost count of the amount of times I've gone to games (particularly home games) and verbal abuse has been directed at MOD from the stands.

Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 12/07/2016 08:18:37    1881513

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Replying To browncows:  "Very well said David- verbal abuse! I would not like to use the word that I would attribute to those who throw such abuse and if it were possible they should be barred from matches."
Well to be fair I agree that people shouldn't be verbally abusing him at matches.Totally wrong..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/07/2016 09:08:22    1881542

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Replying To Uncle_Fester:  "Anybody on this saying MOD got off lightly clearly has their head buried in the sand. OK he may not have been the talk of the TV every week but I've lost count of the amount of times I've gone to games (particularly home games) and verbal abuse has been directed at MOD from the stands."
He's talking about overpaid pundits here. I didn't see too much critique of him that he could complain about. Also, if he had a problem with these pundits he should have taken them on when he was in the job instead of a side swipe when he was out of the job and it meant nothing. Anyway, all water under the bridge. He did give it his best and should be thanked for that but, as was indicated earlier, he should have been dropped after the Armagh game in 2014.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 12/07/2016 10:11:25    1881577

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Verbal abuse from the stands is wrong and should never happen, these people really need to try and control themselves or stay away from games altogether.

As for the overpaid pundits, I wouldn't bother with anything they have to say, they're completely irrelevant to me. I couldn't even tell you single thing they've said all year, my match watching routine is = turn on game at start of game, scratch balls at half time, turn off tele at end of game, very simple and pundit free.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/07/2016 11:02:11    1881617

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