Read this article. Well written ,and on the ball as you would expect from 1 of the 3 wise men. I wonder is he referring exclusively to Meath.? Some of the points raised like players walking away etc. I also wondered about his point regarding paid employees ?,training session costs etc?.. IN fact i am just wondering if Colm is or would ask these chalenging questions in Meath. In fact i would love to see Colm take the current situation in Meath by the scruff of the neck. Maybe i am misreading his comments, or i am very asking too much of Colm. He of all people HAS done an awful lot as a player for Meath. Any chance he might do a Colm o Rourke on our county board now. Ah go on ,go on Colm. Ignore any politics!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 09/05/2016 14:46:21    1853299

nobull

He had before but his blueprints were rejected..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2016 15:20:15    1853310

Have you a link to the article?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2016 15:23:48    1853311

Here you go Ziggy:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-club-players-are-the-dirt-under-the-nail-the-stone-in-the-shoe-34694868.html

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 09/05/2016 15:48:11    1853318

Cheers Ollie :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2016 16:03:10    1853327

€3000 to €5000 per training session..... Crazy if true and unsustainable.

AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 09/05/2016 16:09:55    1853336

Yeah that stood out for me,that couldn't be right in most counties surely??

He seemed to have a go at the training camps abroad and the money it costs for less successful counties.Could be having a cut at Meath here.
I do think that county players could play more for their clubs and do a little less county training.As COR says that can be a release..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2016 16:13:34    1853340

What about the Co squad squad players, the players numbered 20 to 30 in the panel who basically get to play no football as unused subs with county but not released to play with clubs.

AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 09/05/2016 16:22:21    1853349

Anfear

Oh I agree,maybe if they were released to play for their clubs,they may stay with the county panel.It also gives them a chance to impress..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2016 16:28:50    1853351

yes a very good article ..but the 3 wise men thing is starting to get up my wee small tiny goat...who are they? Hustlers for pub quizzes?

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 09/05/2016 19:54:44    1853418

Also they clearly have little say in things.I would prefer those three on the board itself..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/05/2016 20:21:37    1853427

Also they clearly have little say in things.I would prefer those three on the board itself..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:5159 - 09/05/2016 20:21:37


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They would be great ...but good ideas still need money?

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 09/05/2016 21:04:17    1853441

As colm says club players are worse of than ten years ago. Is it now common in clubs for players to have to pay for there own physio?

Sallywebster (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 10/05/2016 10:18:50    1853489

On the three wise Men thing , I believe , from a reliable source that Colm O Rourke has stepped away from any involvement in the so called steering committee. So either he is a member or he is not . Can someone get clarification on this .
The Club player is the bread and butter of the GAA , but some clubs actually suffer significantly by having a County player in their team . Ask the likes of Summerhill , who have had to do without their main midfielder on and off for the last 3 years . Look at Ballinlough , the year before they won the intermediate title , Peadar Byrne was only on the periphery of the County team, but it impacted their chances . Once dropped from the panel he played and was more focused on the club to he extent that they achieved their Senior status . And he possibly should have got player of the year for his performances.
Colm is right , but this appears to be a trend of his , he hit out at the Elitism of the GPA ( only looking after the County Players and not the club players) a number of months ago . This is now him hitting out at the County Players/County boards ( due to the neglect of the Clubs) themselves . is he doing this to be another Spillane , Brolly , creating controversy etc. Or for the betterment of the GAA fraternity on the whole

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 10/05/2016 13:09:31    1853592

Did we not have a panel of learned and experienced men come up with some proposals to shake up the club scene but the clubs rejected it?

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 10/05/2016 14:55:56    1853644

i agree here the county board even do not care for the club player also see fixtures for both codes with dual clubs that will surely burn out players
something has to be done at county level to help the club players

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 10/05/2016 15:01:26    1853648

As i have stated before the players are first and foremost club players. The county te are being facilitated by the clubs in releasing them to help out the county. There is a 13 day rule where by players on the county panel can be ring fenced fir that period in the same code. Ie if the meath footballers are playing yhen they cannot play with their clubs within 13 days of the county match. Outside of this players should make themselves available to their clubs for matches. Some players are great clubmen who love playing for their club and others would rather the limelight of the green and gold

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 10/05/2016 15:50:31    1853676

Chasleain- Abu
Yes indeed national pundits compete ,and play the game of grabbing attention. Whilst i fully agree your point is valid, i give Colm the benefit of the doubt,and judge that he is doing so for the benefit of football mainly. It is a source of great annoyance where players are not FULLY paid their expenses,and so called admin staff at various levels do not have this problem. You raise a very good question is Colm now active as one of the wise men. I do not know either. Maybe he was given the red card because he spoke his mind, or upset some cozy arrangement? Again i do not know. I do know that clubs need to wake up,and believe they are the heart of the GAA, and not any self servers who may be more concerned in raising their public profile . I fully accept Colm O Rourke does not owe football anything. I would love to see him being allowed to use his undoubted skills to address the football crises in his beloved Meath.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 10/05/2016 15:55:39    1853679

We all either play or played football for the games. Local soccer leagues appear to have a game week in week out... Why can't the GAA be as straightforward. Football this week, hurling the next.... The All-Ireland taking 5months to run off is ridiculous given the limited number of games. Should be able to run it off in 10-12 weeks.
All round 1 games in every province on over a single weekend.
Qualifiers & Hurling the following weekend. Qualifiers on Sat, Hurling on Sun.
2nd Rd Provincial the next weekend and so on....
Get the whole thing over and done with and free up the year for the vast majority of players, the club players. After 2 months you'd only have 8 counties left involved and club players in the vast majority of counties would be able to play away.

AnFearBan1234 (Meath) - Posts: 110 - 10/05/2016 16:02:27    1853682

The problem is that makes too much sense. :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/05/2016 17:16:57    1853728