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Replying To ziggy32001: "that for sure?" i was told newbridge... meathforsam09 (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 19/07/2017 09:22:23 2019084 Link
Decision to be after the Leinster Meeting tonight . Where do you think Dublin will want to play ...... Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 10:04:30 2019104 Link
Replying To Richieq: "How wonderfully refreshing and encouraging this Under 17 championship is, to reach a final by beating Dublin and Kildare is a sign of the hard work going on at underage and reaching the final of the Gerry Reilly as well, been a while since I felt so optimistic aboust the future, a win in both finals would be a fantastic weekend for Meath football, that can't really be overstated" it is great but the key is we keep these players playing after these tournaments etc,that has been a huge problem. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2017 10:45:59 2019132 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "it is great but the key is we keep these players playing after these tournaments etc,that has been a huge problem." The key is to ensure what was done for both of these panels at their initial steps is done for all panels going forward . And that the so called player pathway is followed until we see if it really can be successful; In 2014 ( this years U17s ) a regional system of selection for the U14 Dev squad was employed by the incumbents ( for the first time ) . Regional squads competed against each other in a competitive environment . The best players on the regional teams were brought into the Development panel and have been there since that , indeed 99 % of the players on the U17 panel have been there since U14 level . The same occurred with the 2015 U14 panel ,and as can be seen the results are now coming to fruition with both of these panels . That model worked . Unfortunately for some reason or other that model was not really followed in 2016 . We talk about the Dublin conveyor belt , yet when we have a model or system that appears to work we change it ( before we can see how well it works ) or allow it to be changed . What's that about . Best of Luck to the U16s in the GR , and The U17s in the Leinster Special Tournament . I'm sure a large number of people ( County ) are delighted with both panels success . An Mhi Abu .... Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 13:11:54 2019235 Link
Replying To Meath_True: "The key is to ensure what was done for both of these panels at their initial steps is done for all panels going forward . And that the so called player pathway is followed until we see if it really can be successful; In 2014 ( this years U17s ) a regional system of selection for the U14 Dev squad was employed by the incumbents ( for the first time ) . Regional squads competed against each other in a competitive environment . The best players on the regional teams were brought into the Development panel and have been there since that , indeed 99 % of the players on the U17 panel have been there since U14 level . The same occurred with the 2015 U14 panel ,and as can be seen the results are now coming to fruition with both of these panels . That model worked . Unfortunately for some reason or other that model was not really followed in 2016 . We talk about the Dublin conveyor belt , yet when we have a model or system that appears to work we change it ( before we can see how well it works ) or allow it to be changed . What's that about . Best of Luck to the U16s in the GR , and The U17s in the Leinster Special Tournament . I'm sure a large number of people ( County ) are delighted with both panels success . An Mhi Abu ...." what is the model now? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2017 13:52:25 2019278 Link
The U18s were unlucky not to make progress. 10 points up against Dublin and Dublin then win Leinster. The U17s are in their final and the U16s are in their final. Maybe Meath recovery is happening before our eyes? Well done to the U16 & U17 players and management. McBride and Costello not playing U16s so they must have strong panel. Anything on U15s or U14s? MeathGAAHead (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 19/07/2017 14:15:09 2019297 Link
Ziggy, best ask someone who knows . I believe John McCarthy an ex Walterstown player is over them . And someone told me that Conor O Donoghue from Dunboyne is looking after the U15 Dev squad ... I may be corrected on that . Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 14:31:22 2019311 Link
Replying To MeathGAAHead: "The U18s were unlucky not to make progress. 10 points up against Dublin and Dublin then win Leinster. The U17s are in their final and the U16s are in their final. Maybe Meath recovery is happening before our eyes? Well done to the U16 & U17 players and management. McBride and Costello not playing U16s so they must have strong panel. Anything on U15s or U14s?" No reason why either of those players can't take part in the Gerry Reilly tournament is there ? . Even if it was only to help the Team across the line , coming on as subs . If Joe Treanor requires them , surely they should be made available for their own age group ...! And their own Tournament , its not like there aren't plenty of 17 year olds available to Ronan Kearns. There appears to be players who haven't gotten a kick of a competitive ball in a while on the U17 panel , and anyone that knows this team know that they are probably good enough to be starters. Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 14:36:04 2019317 Link
Last year's minors were also not far off winning Leinster. Took Kildare to extra time in the semi final and hit the crossbar with a penalty in extra time. I think our last two minor teams have been a lot better than their results show. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 19/07/2017 14:38:16 2019319 Link
Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Last year's minors were also not far off winning Leinster. Took Kildare to extra time in the semi final and hit the crossbar with a penalty in extra time. I think our last two minor teams have been a lot better than their results show." agree 100% with that ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2017 15:58:03 2019357 Link
Replying To Meath_True: "Ziggy, best ask someone who knows . I believe John McCarthy an ex Walterstown player is over them . And someone told me that Conor O Donoghue from Dunboyne is looking after the U15 Dev squad ... I may be corrected on that ." Conor O Donoghue is working with the u15's alright ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2017 15:58:52 2019359 Link
Replying To MeathGAAHead: "The U18s were unlucky not to make progress. 10 points up against Dublin and Dublin then win Leinster. The U17s are in their final and the U16s are in their final. Maybe Meath recovery is happening before our eyes? Well done to the U16 & U17 players and management. McBride and Costello not playing U16s so they must have strong panel. Anything on U15s or U14s?" not sure how the u14's or u15' are getting on this year ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2017 16:00:13 2019361 Link
add to the fact that the u20's should be interesting in 2018. an awful lot of the last 2 minor sides should be on it too. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/07/2017 16:03:19 2019365 Link
Replying To Meath_True: "No reason why either of those players can't take part in the Gerry Reilly tournament is there ? . Even if it was only to help the Team across the line , coming on as subs . If Joe Treanor requires them , surely they should be made available for their own age group ...! And their own Tournament , its not like there aren't plenty of 17 year olds available to Ronan Kearns. There appears to be players who haven't gotten a kick of a competitive ball in a while on the U17 panel , and anyone that knows this team know that they are probably good enough to be starters." U have to remember that this u17 tournament is effectively these lads minor year because of the year changes they don't get to play minor next year so of course it takes priority over the gerry reilly and the 17s management should be allowed to bring players from the 16s squad up just like Colm coyle and his management had several of this current 17s panel in his squad and they weren't allowed to play with the 17s and probably still wouldn't be allowed if the minors were still going. As regards bringing those under 16s in for the gerry reilly final having not played or trained with them for months would be a slap in the face for all the lads who have worked hard to get them to the final and especially to the 2 or 3 lads who miss out on being on the bench for the final because of those lads coming back in. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 19/07/2017 16:12:41 2019374 Link
Replying To Blackspot09: "U have to remember that this u17 tournament is effectively these lads minor year because of the year changes they don't get to play minor next year so of course it takes priority over the gerry reilly and the 17s management should be allowed to bring players from the 16s squad up just like Colm coyle and his management had several of this current 17s panel in his squad and they weren't allowed to play with the 17s and probably still wouldn't be allowed if the minors were still going. As regards bringing those under 16s in for the gerry reilly final having not played or trained with them for months would be a slap in the face for all the lads who have worked hard to get them to the final and especially to the 2 or 3 lads who miss out on being on the bench for the final because of those lads coming back in." And just on ur other point about there being several players on the panel who haven't got a kick of competitive ball in a long time. What would u suggest the management do?? If they'd have given these lads starts or brought them off the bench last night just because they haven't got much competitive football and Kildare had won there would be an inquest on here as to why the county is not being successful or reaching finals at under age level. So seems to me whatever the management do some people won't be happy. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 19/07/2017 16:29:26 2019388 Link
Replying To Blackspot09: "And just on ur other point about there being several players on the panel who haven't got a kick of competitive ball in a long time. What would u suggest the management do?? If they'd have given these lads starts or brought them off the bench last night just because they haven't got much competitive football and Kildare had won there would be an inquest on here as to why the county is not being successful or reaching finals at under age level. So seems to me whatever the management do some people won't be happy." Blackspot , look at my post . If they are off a suitable standard , which they are and good enough to start ..... Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 16:49:49 2019405 Link
Replying To Blackspot09: "U have to remember that this u17 tournament is effectively these lads minor year because of the year changes they don't get to play minor next year so of course it takes priority over the gerry reilly and the 17s management should be allowed to bring players from the 16s squad up just like Colm coyle and his management had several of this current 17s panel in his squad and they weren't allowed to play with the 17s and probably still wouldn't be allowed if the minors were still going. As regards bringing those under 16s in for the gerry reilly final having not played or trained with them for months would be a slap in the face for all the lads who have worked hard to get them to the final and especially to the 2 or 3 lads who miss out on being on the bench for the final because of those lads coming back in." Yes I am well aware of this Black Spot , this is a one off competition for these guys Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 16:51:30 2019409 Link
Replying To Ratoath Royal: "Last year's minors were also not far off winning Leinster. Took Kildare to extra time in the semi final and hit the crossbar with a penalty in extra time. I think our last two minor teams have been a lot better than their results show." 2017 minors had 7 of this years U17 Panel with them . They made that panel stronger . Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 16:53:45 2019413 Link
Replying To Blackspot09: "And just on ur other point about there being several players on the panel who haven't got a kick of competitive ball in a long time. What would u suggest the management do?? If they'd have given these lads starts or brought them off the bench last night just because they haven't got much competitive football and Kildare had won there would be an inquest on here as to why the county is not being successful or reaching finals at under age level. So seems to me whatever the management do some people won't be happy." Why have them on the panel then Black spot if there not going to be given the chance to develop . The Carlow game was a farce , the Meath U15s would probably have beaten them . Development occurs in competitive matches , not on a training ground (especially the mental side ) . Elitism has to be stopped to progress the development of players in the county . using only 20 players ( and the same 20 in every match is no good for the County . ) Do you think Dublin just focus on 20 players in a panel ...... ? No they don't , the guys that come on in the games are every bit as good as the guys that have gone before . Until we can grasp these ideas we will never be able to compete consistently with Dublin or anyone else . Meath_True (Meath) - Posts: 285 - 19/07/2017 17:01:05 2019419 Link
Replying To Meath_True: "Yes I am well aware of this Black Spot , this is a one off competition for these guys" Well then what's the problem with them bringing up some u16s to the panel if their good enough and if it makes them stronger just like the minors would do with u17 players for donkeys years now. Its a national competition so we should be going all out for it not worrying about weakening the u16s for the gerry reilly. Who anyway seem to be managing fine without them Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 19/07/2017 17:05:21 2019425 Link