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You have to wonder why the senior team don't have someone like that? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/07/2016 02:27:58 1878280 Link 1 |
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there was plenty of work done off the pitch on the mental side of things - Peter Nolan did an amount of work with them that I know other teams don't have access to. Peter has an exceptional background in this field. the fact of the matter is, they were behind when they missed the penalty - they were into injury time of a very tough game and perhaps they flagged a bit but I don't believe for a second that they were mentally unprepared. Kildare were favourites and you could tell by the way they celebrated in the end that they were hugely relieved to get through! people foget that the majority of the team have just finished leaving cert - they train right through the year as hard as the senior teams but with the burden of this state exam hanging over their head. A number of lads who could have been part of the squad opted out (or were opted out by parents!) to concentrate on their exams. On top of that the lads on teh squad knew that losing this was the end of the line - no second chance! I don't know how any of them mentally coped with this! Thankfully the changes to underage structures should help reduce this burden! you know - sport - there is always a winner and a loser - it is harder being the loser when margins are so tight - losing in extra time is an awful way to go out! I have been involved with a club team at minor level and have spent several nights a week in Dunganny over the past 10 months - the committment and work that both the management and team put in could not be faulted. I just hope that the lads involved can be encouraged to commit to the county. Despite everything that has been done, the Senior team is still way behind Dublin, Kerry, Donegal, Tyrone, Monaghan and Mayo (maybe even Galway, Cavan and a few others!) The structures have improved so much in the past 3 years - Dunganny has been a big help - it is important to bring these lads through. There are good development squads coming through for the next 3/4 years - transitioning these to Senior football is what it is all about. Funnily enough - I doubt the general readers of these forums are in the older age bracket - my guess is that the main readers are the likes of teh lads on the minor panels - they will review where things went wrong in the coming days and weeks - but they should be proud of how they represented the county and look forward to moving up through under 20, Junior and Senior ranks. Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 475 - 08/07/2016 09:18:01 1878304 Link 0 |
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Royal Are many of the players minor next year? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/07/2016 09:41:56 1878318 Link 0 |
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It is interesting how posters get carried over the top when someone like Chaisleain makes a comment which differs from their own- he is entitled to his opinion even though we may have a different opinion. The preparation of the underage teams have improved significantly over the last 4-5 years and that is good to see. Beating Dublin should not been seen as a big deal and nobody should get carried away by that. Being competitive is what its all about, and, whether you win by 1 point or lose by 1 point is irrelevant going forward as it's all about improving as you go through the age groups into adult. Personally I'm not a huge big fan of the development squads (even though they are necessary) as I think most good footballers learn their skillset within their own clubs. I though our minor squad did well, were unlucky to loose by 1 point and at that age they may learn as much by the loss as by victory only time will tell. As someone recently said: to play a game well you should not be afraid of loosing or afraid of winning. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 08/07/2016 10:09:10 1878333 Link 3 |
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Only one of the starting players Robbie Clarke. Two of the subs Connell Ahern and Adam Murphy. Then a few squad members Oisin Martyn, Cian Swaine, Daragh Nolan and Dan Devine. Not many
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 08/07/2016 10:24:33 1878344 Link 2 |
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Maybe the changes didn't have much of an impact but I thought Ahearne from Ratoath made a difference and took the game to Kildare. I understand he is of age to be available next year thankfully. DubinMeath72 (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 08/07/2016 11:10:15 1878368 Link 1 |
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3 of the under 17's featured on Wednesday - Robbie Clarke, Adam Murphy and Connell Ahearne. Another 6 or 7 were on the panel playing in the League and some getting time in the championship. Darragh Nolan was very involved but picked up an injury which has held him back in recent weeks. Dan Devine is another very good player who was involved. They all gained good experience. A few of the 17's panel have trained with the squad too and will have gotten experience from that also. Colm Coyle will be looking after the Minors next year I understand (the manager moves with the age group I believe) - and he knows all these lads well. I think at least 12/13 of the current under 17 squad have had some involvement with the minor panel since the New Year so that is a positive!
Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 475 - 08/07/2016 14:35:28 1878512 Link 0 |
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That is very good way of doing it to be fair.. How do you rate the U17's and are there any players to watch out for? I know Conor Moriarty wasn't in the squad,how good is he? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/07/2016 14:57:59 1878525 Link 1 |
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Who would you rate out of those?
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/07/2016 15:01:13 1878528 Link 0 |
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I think Robbie Clarke is a serious man marker, Adam Murphy could well be midfield next year. They are all good footballers in their own right. The only problem for next year is a lot of the top players are good soccer players and may not focus on GAA. Also they are a pretty small age group. Unless they bulk over the winter they may struggle in this area. Overall I don't think they are an outstanding age but hopefully Coyle can get the most out of them
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 08/07/2016 15:31:45 1878545 Link 1 |
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Conor is a fine player and it is a pity he wasn't available to the squad. He was one of those doing his leaving this year and I understand he prioritised this which is totally understandable. He has been in fine form for Curraha and is certainly highly rated. I am aware that teh management kept in contact with him. I still think the 17's panel is stronger than people think. Yes - some of them are very good soccer players but those committed to the soccer are no longer in the squad - I think if this squad gets the same attention (which I have no doubt they will!) tehy will perform very well! Interestingly, Dublin are apparently doing a review following the defeat this year of the Minor structure. I understand they are more focused on bringing lads through to adult football but that the mood of this has changed. They could well eb a different proposition next year! Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 475 - 08/07/2016 16:06:52 1878563 Link 0 |
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It was a fantastic contest and Meath could just as easily won. Meath lost nothing in defeat and it is a pity that undefeated teams are not kept apart at the semi final stage lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 08/07/2016 17:00:20 1878584 Link 1 |
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Thanks for the post Lilyboy - good to hear a Kildare view. I don't think the boys would agree that tehy lost nothing in defeat - Running out at Croker and teh chance of at least two more games. But I understand your sentiment totally. Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 475 - 08/07/2016 17:10:27 1878591 Link 0 |
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How have the U17's been doing result-wise? I know they beat Roscommon.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/07/2016 17:29:36 1878604 Link 0 |
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Is Conor Frayne (Summerhill) involved with the u-17's? I expected that he might of been good enough to be involved with this years minor panel. Thunderstruck (Meath) - Posts: 467 - 09/07/2016 08:41:22 1878766 Link 0 |
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Gerry Reilly ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/07/2016 21:44:36 1879506 Link 1 |
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indeed
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/07/2016 21:16:06 1880427 Link 0 |
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I think they have a very good squad - and Colm Coyle and his team are doing great stuff with them - there are some very talented lads on it and if they can stay injury free I think they will be strong. Guys like Liam Shaw, Conor Frayne, Diarmuid McCabe from Summerhill all featured at one point or another with the minors and have also won Minor Championship with Summerhill. I think they will go well but as always there is a difference between going well and winning it! I have heard that Dublin are doing a review of how they performed (or didn't) this year so are bound to be a bigger challenge next year. Kildare have been strong at this age group too. Interestingly, the under 16's seem to be flying in the Gerry Reilly - I am sure a few of them will feature with the Minors next year. Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 475 - 11/07/2016 14:04:33 1880949 Link 0 |
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I see the U17's won something over the weekend? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/07/2016 12:12:47 1884595 Link 1 |
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Gerry Reilly ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/07/2016 22:30:37 1885090 Link 1 |