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"Letting down the clubs and the players" Are you having a laugh when change was agreed to drop to 16 in senior and intermediate who changed it back ... yes you guessed right.... the clubs changed it back led by a fee old fogies of delegates It is the clubs that have the final say in everything numberedjerseys (USA) - Posts: 348 - 04/08/2017 10:03:30 2028774 Link 2 |
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The problem is that it's only a few people im each club that seem to get a say, If the proposal was put to all players of the first teams in each club I would bet my life it would not have been revoked. To many old people in each club with notions of themselves and wanting to have a status associated with their club rather than actually be competitive and win something.
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 04/08/2017 10:48:50 2028799 Link 2 |
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Just to clarify I was speaking of the clubs supporters not the up their own behinds delegates (some not all) who wouldn't know what's good for them if it hit them between the eyes
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/08/2017 18:53:23 2029065 Link 1 |
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Excellent post. One of my former clubs voted against this despite the vast majority of players been in favour of it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/08/2017 18:54:43 2029067 Link 1 |
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They run the same championship in Donegal and many other top counties. The Meath folk need to realise something. Meath are not competing at the top level because they simply don't have the players. End of story. The Meath Senior League has been a modest competition for the last 20 years and I think only Dunshaughlin in 2003 and Scrin in 2004 got to the Leinster club final and the latter got well beat. That tells it all. Until clubs start developing more quality from schools and one team sets a higher standard at Senior level they then the bar is not going to get any higher anytime soon . Changing the championship won't make one blind bit of difference Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 07/08/2017 21:25:15 2030623 Link 1 |
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Good post, when are people going to wake up and realise we don't have the players at present to challenge the likes of Kerry and Dublin, changing the Meath senior championship structure won't change that fact, look at dublins championship probably the worst in the country and it hasn't stopped them from Winning all irelands
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 07/08/2017 22:42:43 2030679 Link 1 |
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underage is the big thing and consistent underage teams that are good/challenging/winning things and keeping those players in the game will have a knock-on effect on the seniors,but to improve the intensity of the club champ you should not have a situation were for a lot of your group games you feel like you don't have to perform. it is not the cure of all ills but it is a factor in the club game. personally i don't go to as many of the group games as i used to as they tend to be lacklustre,yes the standard needs to improve but the intensity may be a bit better if teams feel like they don't have too many chances.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/08/2017 09:33:08 2030799 Link 4 |
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we don't have the players that's a lazy way of putting it. we should make dam sure the players are up to the level that's needed. we are a long time now looking at this
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 08/08/2017 13:12:54 2030985 Link 12 |
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Ah yes when Meath have done nothing at Senior and Minor for almost 25 years, it's blame the Championship structure for all the ills. Clubs are not producing enough quality players and the big urban clubs who have the population base are worse to blame. Look at U14 and U13 Division 1 Leagues and how many of the big urban clubs are not able to play at that level. We have a club school link that is a token initiative that does not work and which clubs are not recruiting non traditional players and in some instances traditional players. I see significant progress in East Meath where. Clubs are now beginning to dominate at underage and it's because they are working a really terrific schools programme and recruiting players from all sections of the parish and all colours and creed. It simply is a formula not being replicated anywhere else and if Meath football is to improve the other clubs need to get the shoulder to the wheel. Players dont walk in the club gate they have to be coached in.
Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 08/08/2017 17:09:39 2031173 Link 0 |
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niall kane of simonstown apparently flying this year. worth a look,good under the breaking ball. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/08/2017 19:29:48 2034859 Link 4 |
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all fair points that needs to be looked at..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/08/2017 19:30:56 2034860 Link 2 |
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I like him..a understudy of Seamus Kennys
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 17/08/2017 20:21:29 2034879 Link 12 |
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yeah little terrier.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/08/2017 21:55:35 2034921 Link 4 |
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Just on the coaching point, I have played football for nearly 30 years, So I would have played with a lot of players at juvenile and as a adult level. I know very little players that I played with 1 maybe 2 that are coaching kids. Nobody wants to admit but people like me don't want help out at a coaching (even tough I did coach recently for 2 years, and I could help out again), What has happened in a lot of cases is we have allowed by no bothering ourselves people with no experience of actually playing to coach kids, Now dont get me wrong fair play to anyone that wants to help coaching they are to be applauded but a lot of them just dont have the experience needed to coach. One example was a mate was telling me was asked to help out with a school team and the lady that was coaching team schools team was taking off a guy because he didn't collect the ball and the other team scored. When asked why is she taking him off she said because he missed the ball, My mate said do not take him off, how is going to learn if you keep taking off. She replied that's what I taught you do. while there maybe many problems that may be leading to our down fall. I think we need to look ourselves and how much each of us can help out. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 18/08/2017 08:12:59 2034975 Link 0 |
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did this woman do any coaching courses?
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 18/08/2017 08:37:09 2034980 Link 4 |
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Not sure I doubt it was about 7 years ago or so. But do you get the point ? I recently did a course and I was overly impressed with the some of coaches.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 18/08/2017 09:27:57 2035000 Link 0 |
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Not sure I doubt it was about 7 years ago or so. But do you get the point ? I recently did a course and I was overly impressed with the some of coaches."]There is some people coaching who know very little about football, many a promising player was turned off by bad coaching
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/08/2017 21:15:12 2035747 Link 1 |
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Simple answer NO, and it will be at least 3 years before any visible progress will be noticed. Certain players on the panel seem to have regressed this year, it will be a long painful road back before we dine at the top table I'm afraid to say. Have to say although McEntee has poor enough tools at his disposal, I was also disappointed with him also this year, hopefully he makes learnings from this year. AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 24/08/2017 10:07:49 2037032 Link 2 |
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We have to accept Andy is a novice at intercounty level. I hope he learns from this year also. I think our fitness has improved, and a bit more grit shown on some occasions. So some slight improvement shown even with limited resourses. However, teamwork such as forward play for example is even embarasingly poor still. Even looking at Mayo against Kerry where Moran and co. were always moving for space thus available for a pass. By comparison our forwards seem static and reactive rather than proactive. Ability to field the high ball is also sadly very poor now. I know it is early days still,and some of our players are very limited but i expect a lot more coaching in these teamwork skills from Andy Mc Entee..If that means getting in help then so be it. Of course if we could find 7 or 8 new players it would help .
nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 26/08/2017 23:08:18 2038369 Link 0 |