Mayo - Mayo V Sligo or NY May 21

Hard to call the Sligo-New York game, but surely it is fair to say that whichever of them comes to Castlebar on May 21, they will be heading into the back door draw. Still any kind of a game is better than none heading to Salthill. The opening game is one in which we really need to lay down a marker, like when AOS routed Sligo a few years ago. The league final is a reminder of the enormous challenge that lies ahead in the search for SAM, but it also showed that, as we already knew back here, the Dubs do not like being closed down in the middle quarter of the field. Very early but it looks like yet again we have 2 teams standing between us and Sam, Dublin and The Kingdom. Roll on the summer.

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts:356 - 13/04/2017 14:58:20   1979112

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Hard to call the Sligo-New York game, but surely it is fair to say that whichever of them comes to Castlebar on May 21, they will be heading into the back door draw. Still any kind of a game is better than none heading to Salthill. The opening game is one in which we really need to lay down a marker, like when AOS routed Sligo a few years ago. The league final is a reminder of the enormous challenge that lies ahead in the search for SAM, but it also showed that, as we already knew back here, the Dubs do not like being closed down in the middle quarter of the field. Very early but it looks like yet again we have 2 teams standing between us and Sam, Dublin and The Kingdom. Roll on the summer."
martinjoe - really arrogant post. NYC won't be coming to Ireland (Visa issues fir players) and Sligo should one would imagine have a little too much for them. Mayo will need to be fully focused. Show some respect to our Connacht teams.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:8313 - 13/04/2017 20:42:07   1979220

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Hard to call the Sligo-New York game, but surely it is fair to say that whichever of them comes to Castlebar on May 21, they will be heading into the back door draw. Still any kind of a game is better than none heading to Salthill. The opening game is one in which we really need to lay down a marker, like when AOS routed Sligo a few years ago. The league final is a reminder of the enormous challenge that lies ahead in the search for SAM, but it also showed that, as we already knew back here, the Dubs do not like being closed down in the middle quarter of the field. Very early but it looks like yet again we have 2 teams standing between us and Sam, Dublin and The Kingdom. Roll on the summer."
I doubt if it's going to be that simple i.e Dub and Kerry. I'd say Donegal, Tyrone and probably Monaghan could upset either of those two teams.

baire (Galway) - Posts:292 - 14/04/2017 10:41:47   1979335

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Donegal 1-12 New York 1-5 from the Bronx last night.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:8313 - 14/04/2017 11:53:15   1979359

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Like last year, no one really knows what Mayo are doing or how the squad intend to approach the campaign. The League revealed no hints in terms of form or tactics, and so it's very likely that the only focus is on late peaking, which means that many more people are tipping Galway for Connacht. Galway themselves will be looking to do a bit more this year, so if the two do meet in Salthill it's probably likely that neither will be at full tilt. This would make a Mayo win more likely than last year when Galway targeted a victory over Mayo from the start of their year. What we do know is that unlike the last couple of years when the likes of Harrison, Durcan, Coen and Diarmuid O'Connor emerged as true first teamers, 2017 has thrown up nobody so far. Why young Andy Moran and Keith Higgins were fixtures in the FF and FB positions for the whole league is hard to fathom. With Alan Freeman no longer in the squad the FF options are reduced to Andy, JDoc, AOS or the younger brother. Ciillian can play in there but generally does his best work in more space and drifting in rather than as a ball winner. The likes of young Irwin failed to make the cut, which is disappointing. His time might come, but really the squad looks very much like last year's. There's talk of the team moving the ball with the boot more, but this group contains so many pacey ball carriers who attack from deep that the longer game is likely to turn into a phasing thing within games, which will make the really more defensive teams uncomfortable, but probably won't faze the Dubs or Kerry, should we meet them. With the Kingdom having unloaded their doubts and the further boost of a likely U21 victory to come, Mayo's prospects are definitely seen as diminished. If the appetite is still there then this could be an advantage. It all depends on getting to August, which might be easier through the front door and avoiding games like the Fermanagh one last year.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts:1534 - 14/04/2017 12:02:15   1979360

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I really don't know what to except this year. Since 2011 we have been at the very least at semi final stage. An achievement in itself but we are all at the stage both fans and I think players where anything less than an All Ireland is failure.

I know this team won't go down without a fight....one more push lads.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:8313 - 14/04/2017 15:07:44   1979404

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Replying To Pericles:  "Like last year, no one really knows what Mayo are doing or how the squad intend to approach the campaign. The League revealed no hints in terms of form or tactics, and so it's very likely that the only focus is on late peaking, which means that many more people are tipping Galway for Connacht. Galway themselves will be looking to do a bit more this year, so if the two do meet in Salthill it's probably likely that neither will be at full tilt. This would make a Mayo win more likely than last year when Galway targeted a victory over Mayo from the start of their year. What we do know is that unlike the last couple of years when the likes of Harrison, Durcan, Coen and Diarmuid O'Connor emerged as true first teamers, 2017 has thrown up nobody so far. Why young Andy Moran and Keith Higgins were fixtures in the FF and FB positions for the whole league is hard to fathom. With Alan Freeman no longer in the squad the FF options are reduced to Andy, JDoc, AOS or the younger brother. Ciillian can play in there but generally does his best work in more space and drifting in rather than as a ball winner. The likes of young Irwin failed to make the cut, which is disappointing. His time might come, but really the squad looks very much like last year's. There's talk of the team moving the ball with the boot more, but this group contains so many pacey ball carriers who attack from deep that the longer game is likely to turn into a phasing thing within games, which will make the really more defensive teams uncomfortable, but probably won't faze the Dubs or Kerry, should we meet them. With the Kingdom having unloaded their doubts and the further boost of a likely U21 victory to come, Mayo's prospects are definitely seen as diminished. If the appetite is still there then this could be an advantage. It all depends on getting to August, which might be easier through the front door and avoiding games like the Fermanagh one last year."
Interesting post. Im thinking it will be a right hum dinger with Galway with the winners disposing of the Ros in the Connacht final. We've regressed and it would take a miracle to bring us up to the mark to rattle either Mayo or Galway in the Connacht final.

moros (Roscommon) - Posts:489 - 15/04/2017 13:35:02   1979538

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Replying To moros:  "Interesting post. Im thinking it will be a right hum dinger with Galway with the winners disposing of the Ros in the Connacht final. We've regressed and it would take a miracle to bring us up to the mark to rattle either Mayo or Galway in the Connacht final."
While things look bad anything can happen in a final and ye really should have beaten Galway the first day last year

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:8313 - 15/04/2017 18:21:47   1979647

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I really don't know what to except this year. Since 2011 we have been at the very least at semi final stage. An achievement in itself but we are all at the stage both fans and I think players where anything less than an All Ireland is failure.

I know this team won't go down without a fight....one more push lads."
We should be aiming of a semi final place every year minimum

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts:396 - 16/04/2017 18:41:37   1979917

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Replying To yew_tree:  "martinjoe - really arrogant post. NYC won't be coming to Ireland (Visa issues fir players) and Sligo should one would imagine have a little too much for them. Mayo will need to be fully focused. Show some respect to our Connacht teams."
Nothing arrogant about suggesting the almost certain outcome of a Mayo V Sligo or NY Match. Current betting for Connacht title is:
Mayo 4/5
Sligo 50/1
New York 200/1
And,it would be regarded as the biggest shock in modern GAA times if the defeated All Ireland finalists (after replay) were to lose their next game to either Sligo or New York. A repeat of the level we preformed to V Tyrone or Dublin will be enough to see off Galway even allowing for the fact that they have improved from last year. Mayo went into that fixture mentally unprepared and perhaps understandably so with probably only 2 players on the field who ever lost a game to Galway. This year there will be no underestimating the Challenge but while for every county a home game is an advantage, that is actually not so with Galway in Salthill, where they have a bad record even against very poor opposition. The fact remains that the big 4 in Div 1 are well ahead of the rest, with Donegal likely move into the 4 position ahead of Tyrone this summer. Galway had to have second go at Roscommon last year and look at how that team suffered when joined in battle with the big boys. Rochford who sets up his troops depending on the opposition, will surely have AOS on the edge of the square for this fixture. I can not see the FB line coping with him and with those running onto his feed offs of ball.

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts:356 - 18/04/2017 16:17:35   1980497

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Replying To moros:  "Interesting post. Im thinking it will be a right hum dinger with Galway with the winners disposing of the Ros in the Connacht final. We've regressed and it would take a miracle to bring us up to the mark to rattle either Mayo or Galway in the Connacht final."
I wouldn't write the Rossies off based on league form because last year the opposite was the case (great league/poor championship). The Championship will take a life of its own. It's a different game on the hard ground. In general it can be tricky to use the league as a gauge.

Sligo should benefit from the NY game but hard to see them beating Mayo. Mayo at time in the league look muck. But when they had to they pulled a couple of big wins out of the bag. Very hard to know what they will produce.

As for our lads (Galway).......trust me they will be fully focused on 11th of June and if we lose it won't be because we are trying to peak later in the summer!! That will be an interesting day be it Mayo or Sligo. With the Salthill wind it could well be the proverbial game of 2 halfs.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts:351 - 15/05/2017 12:01:15   1986773

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Apparently Sligo using a planned Galway V Mayo fundraiser as motivation for a big effort on Sunday. I would have thought a viewing of the last meeting of Sligo V Mayo would provide all the motivation required..

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts:356 - 15/05/2017 16:35:16   1986870

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Apparently Sligo using a planned Galway V Mayo fundraiser as motivation for a big effort on Sunday. I would have thought a viewing of the last meeting of Sligo V Mayo would provide all the motivation required.."
That was a Galway funderraiser error, nothing to do with Mayo. If Sligo need that as motivation then thy are in trouble.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts:8313 - 15/05/2017 23:01:32   1986977

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