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Non-Gaa Forum - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfan: "Quite a lot of people in the "South" will be happy ye lost.
Especially the families of Séamus Quaid, Gerry McCabe, Patrick Kelly, Gary Sheehan, Frank Hand, Michael Clerkin, Tom Oliver, Eamon Ryan.... ...." It was sad what those families had to go through. The same pain that 3000 odd families in the North had to go through.
But are you suggesting that "the Troubles" were started by the Republican movement?
Or suggesting that the Nationalist population in the North shouldve just put up and shut up in the 1960s?
Or both?
Or maybe that 26 county lives and families matter more than 6 county ones?
Viking66 (National) - 26/11/2025 19:14:12
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "A 32 county Republic is not a "mythical place." It was voted for by the Irish people in 1918. The socialist part was stuck on later, ironically by the same people who not only abandoned a 32 county republic, but also any pretence to be socialist!
Sinn Féin are a run of the mill centre left liberal part. They have at last found their true home along with Bacik and Cairns and Murphy. Pity they didn't spare their own people and everyone else all the wasted lives in deaths, prison, and so on before it was handed over to carpet baggers who never had anything to do with the movement when it was pursuing its sole objective of Irish unity." Easy for you to say that from your safe haven in South? Dublin. If you lived on the Falls road, and were threatened by the UDA or burnt out by the RUC you might have another view. The Unionists were not going to share power on the basis of a strongly worded demand from John Hume or Garret FitzGerald. All that said, the loss of life is regretted.
galwayford (National) - 26/11/2025 14:03:50
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Lots of people in South were involved. Quite a few died. Well over 1,000 in prison.
I do take your point regarding effectiveness of pro British death squads. Point remains, we lost." Quite a lot of people in the "South" will be happy ye lost.
Especially the families of Séamus Quaid, Gerry McCabe, Patrick Kelly, Gary Sheehan, Frank Hand, Michael Clerkin, Tom Oliver, Eamon Ryan.... ....
Seanfan (National) - 26/11/2025 16:55:46
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Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To mintyfresh: "The south Westmeath clubs should really get behind Paula Finan. If the county board really want to promote games around Athlone and surrounding areas it would go a long way towards it" The Games Development Manager is based in Athlone. If we need to hire a Chairperson also to do the same then we will end up ignoring everyone else who is not Athlone or Garrycastle. Tubberclair are managing just fine by the looks of it
Darragh (National) - 26/11/2025 11:51:53
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "A 32 county Republic is not a "mythical place." It was voted for by the Irish people in 1918. The socialist part was stuck on later, ironically by the same people who not only abandoned a 32 county republic, but also any pretence to be socialist!
Sinn Féin are a run of the mill centre left liberal part. They have at last found their true home along with Bacik and Cairns and Murphy. Pity they didn't spare their own people and everyone else all the wasted lives in deaths, prison, and so on before it was handed over to carpet baggers who never had anything to do with the movement when it was pursuing its sole objective of Irish unity." 100% agree about the 32 County being far from mythical, but I was never keen on the Socialist republic part of the proposition.
As for the "Carpet baggers" you mention, most of the people involved during the struggle up until 1998 are now are either dead, over retirement age or fast approaching it. The next generation are not cut from the same cloth, different life experiences and different attitudes, but that is to be expected.
Commodore (National) - 26/11/2025 13:24:16
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Westmeath Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Claretandblue: "David O' Reilly is out injured until May or June, not sure about Johnny B. Conor Shaw should be involved. Some of our hurlers being courted by football mgt" thats a real cheap shot move if thats true
preddan (National) - 26/11/2025 14:20:42
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Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To sourmilk93: "McHugh has Westmeath flying fit. Looked decent in last night challenge" Who played well? Give us some details thanks
A_Chairde (National) - 26/11/2025 14:21:23
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Commodore: "100% agree about the 32 County being far from mythical, but I was never keen on the Socialist republic part of the proposition.
As for the "Carpet baggers" you mention, most of the people involved during the struggle up until 1998 are now are either dead, over retirement age or fast approaching it. The next generation are not cut from the same cloth, different life experiences and different attitudes, but that is to be expected." Lots of them were old enough. Only joined later, often having been in anti republican parties.
BarneyGrant (National) - 26/11/2025 16:35:26
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To galwayford: "Easy for you to say that from your safe haven in South? Dublin. If you lived on the Falls road, and were threatened by the UDA or burnt out by the RUC you might have another view. The Unionists were not going to share power on the basis of a strongly worded demand from John Hume or Garret FitzGerald. All that said, the loss of life is regretted." Lots of people in South were involved. Quite a few died. Well over 1,000 in prison.
I do take your point regarding effectiveness of pro British death squads. Point remains, we lost.
BarneyGrant (National) - 26/11/2025 16:37:43
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To galwayford: "Easy for you to say that from your safe haven in South? Dublin. If you lived on the Falls road, and were threatened by the UDA or burnt out by the RUC you might have another view. The Unionists were not going to share power on the basis of a strongly worded demand from John Hume or Garret FitzGerald. All that said, the loss of life is regretted." I think it's perfectly understandable how and why violence ignited into a war when civil rights of Catholics and nationalists were being trampled on. People being burnt out of their homes, denied jobs and even murder. The same would have happened in the south.
However somewhere along the line it turned into some warped cause by some of those involved. Some of the atrocities committed were unbelievable and unjustified.
People experienced both sides of it, we had a hunger striker from this parish in south Mayo tragically die on hunger strike. We also had a Mayo footballer brutally murdered while on duty in Co.Roscommon.
yew_tree (National) - 26/11/2025 17:34:41
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To foreveryoung: "I probably know a lot more about it than yourself. And I'm not even from the county, whereas you do seem to be. So, please put a lid on that pot!" Then you should of known that mohill have been in 8 of the last 11 finals. Winning 5 of them and were going for 3 in a row this year. So put a lid on yourself
Thejampot (National) - 26/11/2025 21:23:36
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