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Late County Finals - Split Season - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Most people I hear moaning are some here, journalists who only see the County game and armchair sports followers.
I haven't heard a single player moan about it." Most players are happy to enjoy holidays or play a bit of ball in the US.
No player would want to go back to the intermingled season, where you have no idea what your going to be at over the next few weekends
tirawleybaron (National) - 10/07/2025 14:05:03
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Galway Hurling thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "There's another difference too, that you're choosing to ignore here. A BIG difference. Tipp were very successful at u20/u21 level in the past 8 years or so.
In contrast, Galway seemed to put all eggs in the minor basket 2015-2020, winning 5 all-Ireland in 6 seasons, but then spectacularly failed to hatch more than a handful of top class u20/u21s from that lot. As one might expect then, the transition to the senior level for those players has been underwhelming, to say the least.
Talking about bias etc is the usual old Galway guff. If a young lad gets introduced and plays out of his socks, you can be 100% sure he won't be dropped, regardless of where he's from. I haven't seen any such 'young lad performances' for quite awhile, and that is Galway's major problem. A lot of our woes stemming from generally abject u20/u21 displays/talent levels in recent seasons." Are you saying that a new player has to play well in the league in winter / spring to be considered for championship hurling? And if he doesn't perform he's cast aside ? Because imo, McLaughlin, burns and Molloy should all have been starting ahead of Whelan concannon and k cooney all of whom were very poor this year.
BigBàsMan (National) - 10/07/2025 14:35:20
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Galway Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Time to ignore everyone else but galway posters and get on talking bout club championship, no point talking bout great mayo teams anymore!any1 no when first round fixtures are out
Dunmore10 (National) - 10/07/2025 10:25:38
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All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2025 - 2 Like(s)
I'm reading all of this and I cant help wonder do a lot of people live in the real world.
1. Referees are in very short supply - both at club and intercounty level. Umpires are even shorter supply. The theory that effectively professional teams of paid officials should be employed just isn't going to happen and even if it did happen the idea that it would reduce the level of mistakes/errors significantly is rubbish.
2. in theory additional technology may assist - for example the strike on the tipp player on sunday. but being honest it took me a few looks at the slomo to see exactly whose hurl hit him. and VAR hasn't exactly been a resounding success in soccer. and i dont think we want regular delays for VAR reviews in GAA
It seems to me that some people just want a reason to give out and point the finger where someone makes a mistake. (And by the way the mistake on the wrong score didn't come from the officials last Sunday) But I dont see any of those same people coming up with realistic alternatives or solutions. If for example 'Professional umpires /officials were retained by the GAA at whatever costs this would ultimately lead to an increase in ticket prices maybe..
Listen to the complaints when that happens.
These people have a problem for every solution!
bystanderbill (National) - 10/07/2025 10:43:54
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Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To lilywhite1: "Thanks for explaining that udafaughs. In Kildare the league is played in divisions. There is no Intermediate or junior A league except for lower level junior teams and a reserve league and championship for the second teams of Senior clubs.
A team can't be promoted via the league to play in the championship. There can be Intermediate teams playing Division 1 football and senior teams playing Division 2 football.
In the championship the winners are promoted from junior and Intermediate and the bottom four in the senior championship play in a relegation playoff with the loser being demoted to Intermediate." The league system in Monaghan has become a bit of a sham to be honest. Have teams finishing 6th out of 10 and still make the league qtrs. Also last season Tyholland only won one game in intermediate league and one game in intermediate champ but stayed up. Was very bizarre. Blayney qualified for league final first year down and had to wait 4 months to play it. So momentum was gone and lads had lost interest as they were knocked out of the championship early. League needs to be finished befroe championship. No team in their right mind would rest on laurels and not push to win a championship. The only factor would be if a team wins league but finished in bottom two of champ group. They'd be exempt from relegation then but that could be easily fixed by just having 3 teams play in relegation group then and bottom team goes down with the team who loses relegation playoff
updafaughs (National) - 10/07/2025 09:55:55
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Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Mfs: "For a number of years the only tickets you could buy from clubs in mayo was all Ireland tickets. Tickets for all other games was through season tickets or ticketmaster. Clubs were ordering tickets and people were changing their minds or picking up good ones on ticketmaster so clubs were left paying for the tickets." Thats fair enough but club members should have been told in advance if theÿ weren't getting tickets through their clubs so they could have got tickets on Ticketmaster. As it stands a lot of club members don't have tickets for Sunday's match.
I can see a huge drop in club membership next year because of the mess created by Croke Park.
Scenicparish (National) - 10/07/2025 08:50:39
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Football Format Changes Discussion - 1 Like(s)
Replying To legendzxix: "Yeah, sure look it is the reality of it. The league has become established. The provincial championships are like a protected species. The Derry example last year where they were still in the championship after 3 losses was kind of the tipping point where there was a collective decision between Croke Park and the county boards that 3 losses should mean end of the road." There is no particular logic in saying that three losses is too much. It doesn't apply in hurling where you can have three losses and win the All Ireland.
The football league is as much a qualifying tournament for the All Ireland as the provincials are so why are provincial losses counted as part of this notional threshold of losses whereas league losses are not.
CeachtPeile (National) - 10/07/2025 17:25:16
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All Ireland Football Championship 2025 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To sligo joe: "Firstly it was the players (County and Club) that demanded the short intercounty season and secondly it will only be by agreement with the players that any lengthening of the season will occur.
Any "money-spinners" such as concerts are a byproduct of the players' demands, the GAA hierarchy never wanted the shortened season." They had a report in 2019 (can't recall the name) which envisaged Club and County mixture of fixtures right through the year.
Along came Covid and split seasons were a necessity.
Nearly everyone was delighted with the split version and it was adopted permanently.
3 cohorts want old calendar back
National media journos
Armchair sports fans
Oul lads who want everything to be as it was years ago.
Seanfanbocht (National) - 10/07/2025 16:52:33
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "Hmm I wonder what are the differences between Limerick GAA and Leitrim GAA. I can think of a couple of big ones, i'll give you a clue, funding and population.
You're wild into the s&c, sure it'd be great if lads were fit to run marathons and lift bullocks while they were at it. But if they can't kick a ball accurately to each other from 20 yards then what is the point of it?" I could probably still kick a ball accurately from 20 yards but I'm nearing the half century. S&C & skills go hand in hand, I mean that's a no brainer surely? You'll not kick much ball from outside the arc if you're not got the fitness... this isn't the 90's. Natural skill will only take you so far nowadays.
As for funding, most counties have that problem... as counties go, players are looked after well. Yes we could definitely do with more coaches and that's where future spend should go instead on 'celebrity bainisteoirs'. As for population, that's only used as an excuse. At the moment, GAA is the number 1 sport in the county... down in Limerick they compete for players... soccer, rugby, hurling and so forth. We don't have that problem in Leitrim... at the moment. But Carrick rugby is rising fast, so people would want to watch out in Pairc Sean.
Square_B (National) - 10/07/2025 16:47:24
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Late County Finals - Split Season - 1 Like(s)
Replying To lilywhite1: "The intercounty season is too condensed under the so called split season tirawleybaron. Pushing the All Ireland back to the end of August would give players more rest between championship games and let players recover from minor injuries.
The GAA season is still intermingled. Club league games continue throughout the intercounty season." It's not intermingled. Club League games don't have county players playing in them.
Viking66 (National) - 10/07/2025 16:43:30
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Late County Finals - Split Season - 1 Like(s)
Replying To lilywhite1: "The intercounty season is too condensed under the so called split season tirawleybaron. Pushing the All Ireland back to the end of August would give players more rest between championship games and let players recover from minor injuries.
The GAA season is still intermingled. Club league games continue throughout the intercounty season." There seems to be momentum gathering among pundits, gaa journalists (including ex-players), some GAA officials and some supporters to get a debate going with an ambition to move the finals back.
I can sense no buy-in from current players, club or county to even entertain a change back. A lot of supporters also, especially those that actively support and attend club games, don't seem to be as exercised, that is they are content enough with the shortened intercounty season.
sligo joe (National) - 10/07/2025 15:52:04
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GAA County - Centres Of Excellence - 1 Like(s)
Replying To tirawleybaron: "A lot of less populated counties would be far better off building joint facilities.
Dromahair (Sligo/Leitrim)
Clones (Fermanagh/Monaghan/Cavan)
Newtown Platin (Louth/Meath)
Rathowen (Longford/Westmeath)
Moneyquid (Offaly/Laois)
Arklow (Wicklow/Wexford) football
SLieverue (Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford)
Roscrea (Tipp/Offaly/Laois) hurling" Several of those counties have higher populations than Mayo for example, so curious why you didn't include them?
Breffni40 (National) - 10/07/2025 14:59:19
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GAA County - Centres Of Excellence - 1 Like(s)
Replying To tirawleybaron: "A lot of less populated counties would be far better off building joint facilities.
Dromahair (Sligo/Leitrim)
Clones (Fermanagh/Monaghan/Cavan)
Newtown Platin (Louth/Meath)
Rathowen (Longford/Westmeath)
Moneyquid (Offaly/Laois)
Arklow (Wicklow/Wexford) football
SLieverue (Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford)
Roscrea (Tipp/Offaly/Laois) hurling" Disregarding the fact that most counties you list there already have facilities, wouldn't that just ensure maximum inconvenience and travel time for most counties to get to their own training ground?
Most counties try to locate their training ground in a central area of the county for the convenience of users.
I also have to ask what benefit it would be to Wexford, Laois or Offaly to pay for 2 facilities either in other counties or on their border that they share with other teams, instead of 1 inside the county that they own outright?
CastleBravo (National) - 10/07/2025 14:51:56
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Wexford Club Hurling 2025 - 1 Like(s)
Viking you ve hit on one of the biggest problems not allowing free weekemd for EP
2 seniors decide to go
2 go up can't play 2nd team again
5 2nd team go
7 from 3rd team have to play up
Leaving 3rd team struggling no 3rd team would have the player pool to withstand that amount taken out of equation .
Been involved where this has happened and 3rd team could nt field team leaving maybe 10 without any hurling for rest of the year
I ve no interest in EP but I m savvy enough to kniw what the right thing is to do .
Not just for the players but fir the greater good of championship. We d be fairly niave to think by denying them the opportunity to go will help the standard of hurling or football. And improve the numbers playing it is actually detrimental .
On the des mythen saying are we serious .maybe he should look at why there is 5 week break from 4th to 5th round .
Hurling first as they wanted get 4 games in before fleadh . Let football have next 2 weeks after fleadh lads be dying aftr fleadh . Anyone that was at fleadh will know every team in the county had lads drinking it out fjr the week they had a ball more power to them . Could nt hurl after that . Let football have the next 2weeks . Now theres the break for Ep . There was never going to be a case when hurling clashed with EP .
U can tell me I m wrong about the above but our championship is set up to promote hurling first .
Pity they ****** it up with new format.
The hurling advisory committee have too many egos to admit that got it badly wrong what works for kilkenny does nt fit our needs .
Come up with a wexford model that suits wexford if they think they know best . Of course without banning gaelic football first .
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Formertownie (National) - 10/07/2025 14:35:00
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All Ireland Football Championship 2025 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To CiarraiMick: "I agree BUT the finals create money and the Gaa love money.
Sure the condensed season now allows the Gaa lease out the best stadium in the country for concerts and etc.
Not too long ago we had league semi finals and I even remembe league quarter finals.
Whover tops the league should be champions." Possibly less necessary now there are so many championship games? Made sense back in the day but yeah money still talks I suppose
Breffni40 (National) - 10/07/2025 12:21:02
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All Ireland Football Championship 2025 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Leagues should not have finals, if you top the league you win the league, it's not too complicated,
then again the GAA have difficulty keeping the score correct in a match so it's no surprise on this bull island." I agree BUT the finals create money and the Gaa love money.
Sure the condensed season now allows the Gaa lease out the best stadium in the country for concerts and etc.
Not too long ago we had league semi finals and I even remembe league quarter finals.
Whover tops the league should be champions.
CiarraiMick (National) - 10/07/2025 12:11:07
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To 1shot: "This has to stop if we are ever to make progress. If you look at TIPP they introduced 3 or 4 u20 players and they backed them 100%. If Darragh McCarty were a Galway player would he have been backed ahead of Jason Forde on the frees and if he was sent off in one championship game not to mind two would he have be given game time again?
The difference between Galway and Tipp is the younger players are backed day after day to give them confidence to play with freedom.These players in Galway are in and out and as a result never develop or feel backed. Its a Galway thing as some poster said earlier" There's another difference too, that you're choosing to ignore here. A BIG difference. Tipp were very successful at u20/u21 level in the past 8 years or so.
In contrast, Galway seemed to put all eggs in the minor basket 2015-2020, winning 5 all-Ireland in 6 seasons, but then spectacularly failed to hatch more than a handful of top class u20/u21s from that lot. As one might expect then, the transition to the senior level for those players has been underwhelming, to say the least.
Talking about bias etc is the usual old Galway guff. If a young lad gets introduced and plays out of his socks, you can be 100% sure he won't be dropped, regardless of where he's from. I haven't seen any such 'young lad performances' for quite awhile, and that is Galway's major problem. A lot of our woes stemming from generally abject u20/u21 displays/talent levels in recent seasons.
Pope_Benedict (National) - 10/07/2025 11:50:47
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Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Gaawestmeath: "Why should we realise fixtures in advance ? Is this seriously a response from people. Of course players want to know what day they are playing. Dual players play weekend on weekend so not knowing when they can, go means they can't plan anything until 2.5 weeks out.
That means young players can't buy tickets to events in advance and older players have to organise a family trip on 2.5 weeks notice( if there lucky). 2.5 weeks from a trip away or down the country is going to be more expensive due to less availability at times too.
Players work weekends too and some rosters are done well in advance and depending on the boss/manager being a Gaa/sport person , swaps could be hard.
It's not difficult to do send them in advance and there's no benifit to waiting. Other counties do it and the players love it. Teams, management, players can plan the year ahead." Last few years the Ros Group fixtures in the 3 main Championships, venues and Referees were issued in early July with the 1st rounds being played 1st weekend August .
It certainly beats waiting for a message on a Monday night to see if there's a game at the weekend, which of the 3 days, what time, what competition....
Seanfanbocht (National) - 10/07/2025 11:27:52
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All Ireland Football Championship 2025 - 1 Like(s)
Leagues should not have finals, if you top the league you win the league, it's not too complicated,
then again the GAA have difficulty keeping the score correct in a match so it's no surprise on this bull island.
Tirchonaill1 (National) - 10/07/2025 11:20:32
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Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Commodore: "At the very least, there should be better communication from the GAA on how tickets will be allocated, so that fans and club members know well in advance what the Annual plan for tickets will be." In the gaa website there is a section dedicated to its purpose, vision and values.2 points that are worth notig
Value
Community and Club is at the heart of our Association
Vision
Communication - striving for a more connected Association
The club is clearly not at the heart of the association when it comes to tickets and by the look of things they'll be striving for a long time to create a more connected organisation.
Ulsterchamps_32 (National) - 10/07/2025 11:17:03
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