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All Ireland Final 18 - Dublin V Tyrone - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Since teams started outright buying the league I stopped watching soccer. Leicester City was a nice break but that mini revolution didn't last long. Ever since Sam maguire effectively started being bought via financial advantages amongst other advantages I've lost interest. The leinster championship even more so. And that was once thrilling. After the hurling boom in the nineties it was so hard to get excited and watch games when everyone knew kilkenny would win. Now it's so exciting knowing that about 9 counties could realistically win it. The gaa could make the same mistake twice and invest millions more annually into Dublin hurling but instead they could be smart and invest millions into a county like antrim and a city like Belfast. Create a new contender rather then make 1 County dominant. Also invest millions into the next tier of counties like kildare, kerry, meath, wocklow, laois, ofally, mayo and carlow. That would actually be smart and good for our games."
for someone who has no interest in the game anymore since dublin are dominant with all their advantages, you don't half spend a lot of time on here whinging about it. If you weren't interested you wouldnt spend your time chatting (s&!te) on a GAA forum about the all ireland final.

waynoI (National) - 16/08/2018 10:59:04

Bringing Children To Games - 3 Like(s)
Common sense seems to go out the window when it comes to activists and their causes. Besides the fact that a packed sports stadium of over 80000 people is not the place for a 4 month old child regardless of their dietary needs, the facts of the matter are this... Every venue or establishment in the country, whether it be sporting, music, night club, pub, museum, play centre etc, has maximum occupancy limit. This is purely for safety reasons and it is an essential. This maximum occupancy limit is for an amount of people, not adults over a certain age or children under a certain age but people, adults and children collectively. All Ireland final day is an event which you can be certain will be a sell out crowd so by that virtue the stadium will be at maximum occupancy. So if you were to allow ticket holders to bring non ticket holders along with them, whatever their age, then you are over the limit of occupancy and in breach of health and safety laws and also in breach of the terms of any insurance policies which would be tied to occupancy limits. Yes people, insurance premiums for one are based on regulations and rules and the laws of the land being adhered to... If there were to be an incident in any establishment or venue deemed to be overcrowded, were it to be relatively minor or indeed a major incident and a person or people got injured or worse then what happens??? It may sound over the top but if a scenario like this was let to develop then you'd know all about it, God forbid something was to happen to a child and Croke Park were found to be derelict of their duty when it comes to safeguarding the wellbeing of their patrons and all because someone didn't want to pay their way or because they wanted to put on a public display of how liberal they are without an entry fee... What I ask you would happen then?? So that is why the lady in question must purchase a second ticket if she wishes to bring another person along with her, simple as! CASE CLOSED! P.S. I'm sure that any activists on here can go and quite easily find something else to be outraged about, GAA related or otherwise.

locklanegale (National) - 15/08/2018 16:20:25

All Ireland Final 18 - Dublin V Tyrone - 3 Like(s)

Replying To StirringIt:  "Doubt neutrals will have much interest in the Football final. Just a matter of Dublin by what margin. No disrespect to Tyrone, but themselves and Monaghan are the head of the chasing pack and a long way off Dublin, which says a lot for the rest of us !. For the first time , I won't watch the game. I'll hear the result on the news later in the evening. Hurling should be a great game on Sunday."
People who've zero interest in Gaelic football watch the all Ireland final every year without fail, yet you a man that's joined a Gaa forum won't be watching? I don't believe you I call bs. Obviously you're pissed off with Dublin winning but you'll be watching alright.

clondalkindub (National) - 15/08/2018 16:41:30

Brilliant Weekend Of Football - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Green_Gold:  "I actually agree with you, much to easy to score in hurling, nearly every attack has a score. As you say, football is still a great game if played by two good teams who are evenly matched. The Dublin and Mayo clashes of recent years were brilliant games, the teams were evenly match. The problem we are facing now is that Dublin have gone way ahead of the chasing pack and its difficult to see a challenger in the next couple of years - hopefully Tyrone prove us wrong and put it up to Dublin like Mayo. Kerry have a lot of potential but going to take a few years and Mayo really need to rebuild."
To be honest swapping a Dublin domination for a Kerry one does nothing for the game. Kerry have enough won down the years. Be great to see a few news teams winning Sam.

yew_tree (National) - 15/08/2018 17:33:52

Bringing Children To Games - 2 Like(s)

Replying To lilylanger:  "Children are already allowed into the stadium so are already at risk of being hurt. What difference does it make if the baby pays in or not in this scenario?"
Are you for real or can you not read? It matters not one iota really who pays what, the issue is that on a potential sell out crowd it cannot be allowed in any shape or form to admit 2 people on 1 ticket as you would be in breach of safety laws and insurance policies. It doesn't matter if they're 1 day old or 100 years old. Now one may argue that there's almost no chance of anything going wrong but then again they thought that when they opened the gates of Hillsborough! That analogy may be over the top but essentially it boils down to the same thing namely safety, insurance, good practice...

locklanegale (National) - 15/08/2018 17:57:42

All Ireland Final 18 - Dublin V Tyrone - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Joxer:  "What has watchng matches like Tyrone v Monaghan, Kldare v Mayo, Kerry v Galway got to do with Dubln's dominance? I watch a lot of soccer. I don't stop watching MOTD because Man City will win the league for the next 4 years. That makes no sense."
He'll be watching everyone on here will be, they think telling us that they hate Dublin's dominance will upset us or something when we don't care this team is on a mission to be the greatest of all time so suck it up for a few more years we're going nowhere.

clondalkindub (National) - 16/08/2018 07:50:40

Come Back Mayo All Is Forgiven - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Vishred:  "A very poor turn-out for the match tells you every thing you need to know about the expectations of both counties regarding the result. If that was Mayo playing last sunday you wouldnt see an empty seat in the stadium, and the Dublin supporters would be out in force too because they would know they would get a proper game ."
Ive heard a lot of nonsense about the need to get Mayo back in order to bring life back to the championship. This really must be a neutral point of view because neutrals love crazy games where anything can happen, e.g own goals, Keepers making a hash of things, losing games when in front. Its all exciting and fun to watch. But if anyone is going to beat Dublin it will need done methodically, with a plan and execution of it. Entertainment is great for the neutral, the fans and supporters of other counties love a shoot out at the ok corral. But if anyone is going to topple one of the best teams since Tyrone of the noughties, it has to be done with a more intelligent approach.

Game2Halves (National) - 16/08/2018 09:15:22

Abolishing The Black Card - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Killarney.87:  "[quote=Kurt_Angle:  "Statistically, that's not accurate. The average amount of black cards per game in 2018 has been 1.00 (i.e. exactly 1 per game). For 2017, it was 1.10. For 2016, it was 1.23. For 2015, it was 1.02. For the last four finals, its been 1.5 - well up on the average. link"
Thanks for sharing that, where are you getting the finals stats from? How many of the black cards in finals were in injury time? I guess my main gripe is referees are not making the brave calls earlier in games. I don't know how McNamee's tackle was not a black card on Sunday for instance. Harte was able to sub him off shortly after that. Referees seem to use it inconsistently. Robbie Kiely's black against Mayo in 2016 was extremely harsh and went a long way to deciding the outcome of the game. I don't think the black card in its current form properly addresses cynical play like what Dublin did against Mayo in injury time last year."]Where are you getting the finals stats from? The link to the article is on the original post. Here's the url: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-statistics-four-players-walking-black-card-tightrope-1.3583559 How many of the black cards in finals were in injury time? One (Kilkenny's last year). The times the others were given were: 21', 24', 35', 41' and 59' I don't know how McNamee's tackle was not a black card on Sunday for instance In real time it certainly looked like a black card. I can only imagine the linesman, who was closer than the ref, communicated that McCarthy somewhat manufactured the pull down by grabbing McNamee's arm. At least, I'd like to think that's what happened. I don't think the black card in its current form properly addresses cynical play like what Dublin did against Mayo in injury time last year That's a fair point. However, I'm not really sure what other punishment could have been given in the circumstances. It was a goal kick to Mayo so I don't know how the ball could have been moved up for a free, for example. The black card isn't a perfect punishment but I'd be open to hearing alternatives in such situations.

Kurt_Angle (National) - 16/08/2018 10:55:27

Abolishing The Black Card - 1 Like(s)

Replying To neverright:  "[quote=Kurt_Angle:  "Statistically, that's not accurate. The average amount of black cards per game in 2018 has been 1.00 (i.e. exactly 1 per game). For 2017, it was 1.10. For 2016, it was 1.23. For 2015, it was 1.02. For the last four finals, its been 1.5 - well up on the average. link"
This is to be expected when finals are very tight as players will 'take a black card for the team'. In last year's final there probably should have been 4 or 5 black cards in the last minute or two."]Why would it not be the same for a very close game in, arbitrarily, the Ulster quarter finals? The common consensus here is that players will do anything to win, including taking a black card for the team. Only one player in those four finals was black carded in the closing stages. The times the black cards were given in the finals were: 2015 - 59' 2016 - 24' Replay - 21', 35', 41' 2017 - 75'

Kurt_Angle (National) - 16/08/2018 10:55:49

Limerick V Galway - 1 Like(s)
I've been on the limerick bandwagon from very early this summer , just watching you could tell there's something different about this team and there's no doubt in my mind that limerick will be All Ireland Champions this Sunday's,

clondalkindub (National) - 16/08/2018 11:32:17

Hurling Team Of The 1990s - 1 Like(s)

Replying To perfect10:  "ahead of who?"
Liam Dunne or either corner backs all day long, he was consistently quality.

Bon (National) - 16/08/2018 12:21:53

Come Back Mayo All Is Forgiven - 1 Like(s)
Yeah maybe Mayo should get a bye into the All Ireland semi-final every stage. They 'deserve' it sure never mind that they were just about able to remain in div 1 in the league, weren't good enough to win Connacht or come through a qualifier against a relegated team. But still, all bettings, odds, form, aging panel, poor performers, lack of forwards, injuries and so called poor management aside....I'm sure they would have beaten Dublin by 27 points in the All Ireland semi0final. Shame on Galway for trying to convince central council to swap Mayo in instead of them for this years semi final.

The_DOC (National) - 16/08/2018 13:51:19

Come Back Mayo All Is Forgiven - 1 Like(s)

Replying To jimbodub:  "Think you just about nailed it. The rest took out their frustrations on seeing Dublin winning on the Mayo team.. Mayo should have beaten Dublin at least once across all those games.. they did it in 2012.. but then failed to take their opportunity before Gavin showed up. It's remarkable that Dublin came through those games since 2013.. felt the first game in 2015 was their best chance. The Mayo come back that day had us completely rattled but when Moran tied it up Mayo seemed almost happy with the draw and their level of intensity dropped.. we were there for the taking that day and I remember leaving that day thinking that we really dodged a bullet... we got the draw but it felt like a loss. Not sure how we got through all those games.. a fair bit of skill but also a healthy sprinkling of luck at crucial times. Looking back.. Jaysus Mayo did deserve one against us but it wasn't meant to be."
IF they deserved it, theyd have won it. Simple as that really.

waynoI (National) - 16/08/2018 14:20:20

Limerick V Galway - 1 Like(s)

Replying To rhudson:  "even though im a galway man I think it would be great to see limerick win an all Ireland it would really cap what has been a great year for hurling"
Yes I'd love to see Limerick or Waterford win an All Ireland, but not at our expense. We've lost enough All Irelands in Galway, so we need to win every one that we can from here on in. Yes it would be a little bit easier to take on Monday morning knowing that Limerick had beaten us, rather than any of the 'Big three', but I doubt Limerick fans will be crying too many tears for us should they beat us, so I most certainly hope that Limerick don't win this year!!

gilly2308 (National) - 15/08/2018 15:42:55

Bringing Children To Games - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Thomas Clarke:  "Nothing wrong with trying to improve the association. It's been happening for 130+ years, with administrative and playing rule changes, many of which have been copied from other sports. I think it's obvious that everyone on this board is a GAA fan, but I guess it depends on what type of fan you are. You appear to be of the 'like it or lump it' variety, whereas I'm more for continual improvement."
I cannot reply to all so will reply to this answer. One person complained and it goes on to Independent front page of their website. No research behind, like when the rule was brought in or why or anything. But a negative take on the GAA so lets make front page. I have no issue with rule and if you ask you will find it is H&S around a full house of 80K+ people. There are things to change but this is not major issue. Like ticket prices. We compare them to what? They are super value and especially as the money is ploughed back. Do people really know how many games make money?? You would be surprised. Negativity for the sake if it annoys me.

witnof (National) - 15/08/2018 15:59:03

All Ireland Hurling Final Referee - 1 Like(s)
I really think that James McGrath has done himself no favours nor has the Westmeath county board. Firstly, he came across very bad in the televised interview, almost with a sense of entitlement, and the argument that "people I've spoken to reckon I should have got it" angle doesn't hold any sway whatsoever... Their opinion is actually irrelevant as they're not involved in the decision process! It's like a player from one of the participating counties who doesn't make the team for the final retiring effectively because they thought they should be playing and coming out and saying that their friends and clubmates thought the same. James simply didn't make the cut this year because the people making the decision thought there was a better alternative this time round. That is why the Westmeath county board has done no favours with its statement. It is totally irrelevant to this decision how much refereeing he has done in the past or how good a servant he has been to Westmeath hurling over the years, it just doesn't come into the decision making process nor should it. As a fellow county man I agree that he has been a good servant to the GAA both at club and inter county level but I also must say that while I think he is a capable referee, I do not think he is a great referee or an exceptional one as some have stated and from looking at some of his recent performances (which I accept have divided opinion) I for one understand why he is not involved on sunday.

locklanegale (National) - 15/08/2018 16:43:09

Bringing Children To Games - 1 Like(s)

Replying To locklanegale:  "Common sense seems to go out the window when it comes to activists and their causes. Besides the fact that a packed sports stadium of over 80000 people is not the place for a 4 month old child regardless of their dietary needs, the facts of the matter are this... Every venue or establishment in the country, whether it be sporting, music, night club, pub, museum, play centre etc, has maximum occupancy limit. This is purely for safety reasons and it is an essential. This maximum occupancy limit is for an amount of people, not adults over a certain age or children under a certain age but people, adults and children collectively. All Ireland final day is an event which you can be certain will be a sell out crowd so by that virtue the stadium will be at maximum occupancy. So if you were to allow ticket holders to bring non ticket holders along with them, whatever their age, then you are over the limit of occupancy and in breach of health and safety laws and also in breach of the terms of any insurance policies which would be tied to occupancy limits. Yes people, insurance premiums for one are based on regulations and rules and the laws of the land being adhered to... If there were to be an incident in any establishment or venue deemed to be overcrowded, were it to be relatively minor or indeed a major incident and a person or people got injured or worse then what happens??? It may sound over the top but if a scenario like this was let to develop then you'd know all about it, God forbid something was to happen to a child and Croke Park were found to be derelict of their duty when it comes to safeguarding the wellbeing of their patrons and all because someone didn't want to pay their way or because they wanted to put on a public display of how liberal they are without an entry fee... What I ask you would happen then?? So that is why the lady in question must purchase a second ticket if she wishes to bring another person along with her, simple as! CASE CLOSED! P.S. I'm sure that any activists on here can go and quite easily find something else to be outraged about, GAA related or otherwise."
Children are already allowed into the stadium so are already at risk of being hurt. What difference does it make if the baby pays in or not in this scenario?

lilylanger (National) - 15/08/2018 16:55:54

Come Back Mayo All Is Forgiven - 1 Like(s)

Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Fully expect Galway to bounce back and win Connacht again, Mayo would have been eaten by the Dubs this year, posters are getting carried away about them."
I don't think we would have got eaten as bad as Galway

mayo_123 (National) - 15/08/2018 17:07:10

Brilliant Weekend Of Football - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Miami305:  "Nearly every attack in hurling has a score? Lets take AI champions in each code. Galway versus Clare in the semi final. Galway had 43 scoring chances from play and converted 22 of these. Just a fraction under 50%, so when did 1 from 2 ever equate to "nearly every attack has a score? That would have some credibility if the scoring rate was more like 75-80% region And compare football champions Dublin in their semi final against Galway. Dublin had 30 scoring chances from play and converted 20. 66.6% reoccurring, so it would appear its "easier" to score in football....."
I should have qualified that statement by saying there are more scoring chances in hurling than football, I don't have stats but there surely are more attempts at scoring in hurling than football. For example, it is common enough to see scores going over from near the half way line (great skill involved), this is impossible in football. Hurling probably is never going to be defensive as you can move the ball quickly from the back to the front, therefore no time to set up with a blanket defence. I am not an expert in hurling, just watch the big games in the summer, so you will probably find plenty of holes in my arguments lol.

Green_Gold (National) - 15/08/2018 17:10:58

Bringing Children To Games - 1 Like(s)
Bring my nieces and nephews to the games sometimes I didn't start doing this until they were around 7 so needed tickets. Didn't bring them before that because I don't feel comfortable minding them in a packed stadium but I was at the kerry game in Croker and the couple in front of me had a baby . Couldn't have been more than 9 months. He joined in with the clapping regardless of what team just thought it was gas and then he had a nap. I think it depends on the child but that baby was happy out and no bother to his parents so of they wanted to bring their child to an all ireland final then they should be allowed. I've sat beside adults who will wreck my head more than any child could. If a ticket is necessary (I think it's just the gaas way of making money) then you should be allowed purchase a ticket for a toddler or below as long as you have an adult ticket.

galwayfball (National) - 15/08/2018 17:20:26