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Corofin if a County team

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Folks, what if Corofin were a county team - I know Brigids made them look like Dublin but I still feel they could easily beat most division 3 teams and would even beat some div 2 teams with the intensity they have any opinions?

golfcar (Roscommon) - Posts: 60 - 29/11/2016 18:20:32    1937315

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Think youre exaggerating. Doubt they d beat tipperary laois longford in division 3 for a start. Would struggle to beat most of the others. And would get hammered by meath cork etc from 2

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 29/11/2016 18:35:41    1937323

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Well they have apparently beaten a couple of intercounty teams in challenge games including Galway but these teamd would be picking fringe players or trialists. But Crokes, Slaughneil & Vincents would also push a lot of county teams. Now if they had the resources of a major county team they would be unbelievable.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 721 - 29/11/2016 18:43:54    1937326

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If Antrim played seriously and lost to Corofin I'd be asking serious questions of the management team.

Club football isn't even close to being the same level as county.

The weakest 4 teams of Leitrim, Carlow, Waterford and London would possibly be Corofin's level.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4225 - 29/11/2016 18:50:19    1937329

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I watched both matches and the Ref in both cases appeared to favour the stronger teams blowing the whistle on some occasions and giving an easy free to the stronger team. It appears that some Refs have serious problems in differentiating between what is supposed to be a tackle and fouling. In one case I've seen a player winning a ball cleanly and then been tossed to the ground, a guy piggy backing on him resulting in the Ref giving a free against him. They appear to use a get out clause of giving a free against a guy for over carrying when he is being clearly been fouled- have these guys ever played the game.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 29/11/2016 19:00:17    1937334

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Replying To golfcar:  "Folks, what if Corofin were a county team - I know Brigids made them look like Dublin but I still feel they could easily beat most division 3 teams and would even beat some div 2 teams with the intensity they have any opinions?"
Sounds like you're building them up for a fall. This thread will look silly if Dr. Crokes beat them in the semi final or if Vincents or Slaughteil get the better of them in the final.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 29/11/2016 19:07:27    1937337

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Sounds like you're building them up for a fall. This thread will look silly if Dr. Crokes beat them in the semi final or if Vincents or Slaughteil get the better of them in the final."
Dunno whos worse for 'bigging' themselves up, Northerners or Westerners. The two least successfull provinces in Ireland. Dr Crokes will probably beat Corofin and no one will blink an eye

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 29/11/2016 19:27:22    1937341

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Replying To browncows:  "I watched both matches and the Ref in both cases appeared to favour the stronger teams blowing the whistle on some occasions and giving an easy free to the stronger team. It appears that some Refs have serious problems in differentiating between what is supposed to be a tackle and fouling. In one case I've seen a player winning a ball cleanly and then been tossed to the ground, a guy piggy backing on him resulting in the Ref giving a free against him. They appear to use a get out clause of giving a free against a guy for over carrying when he is being clearly been fouled- have these guys ever played the game."
Fouls being given for over carrying like that really annoy me.

There have been a few times they've been called against me and I've questioned a ref and they've said "you could've gotten rid of it before you were fouled". That's not the rule though! I didn't need to get rid of it before I was fouled because I hadn't over carried! Gah!

Anyway rant over, glad I got that off my chest.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4225 - 29/11/2016 19:51:43    1937352

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Didn't Castlebar bring them to extra time? If they were a county team how would they do, possibly bring newly created county team Corofin to extra time

republican (Sligo) - Posts: 326 - 29/11/2016 20:06:49    1937357

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Dunno whos worse for 'bigging' themselves up, Northerners or Westerners. The two least successfull provinces in Ireland. Dr Crokes will probably beat Corofin and no one will blink an eye"
lol hanging on to Cork and Kerry coat tails is a bit rich, Limerick Abu

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 29/11/2016 21:10:32    1937378

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Sounds like you're building them up for a fall. This thread will look silly if Dr. Crokes beat them in the semi final or if Vincents or Slaughteil get the better of them in the final

did rhode and the London champions withdraw from it or what?

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 30/11/2016 07:54:57    1937447

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Same old craic again - Corofin played Galway in a challenge in 2015 and won that (strength of the Galway tem questionable), they played them again this year and although I don't think Corofin got a trimming they were well beaten in the end.

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 706 - 30/11/2016 08:29:57    1937452

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The likes of Corofin, Crokes & the stronger Dublin clubs would give Div 4 teams a close game and perhaps some of the weaker counties in DIv 3 but certainly not anyone above that standard.

Corofin will have 4 players who'll probably start for Galway this year another player in Daithi Burke who's good enough but has chosen to play for the hurlers and then someone like Ian Burke who has the talent but doubt he's in the correct physical condition for IC football currently. The reason Corofin are so strong is the strength of their panel, they must have about 20 on their panel who've played Senior or U21 football for Galway.

Crokes will be delighted to come in as the underdogs, they've been knocking on the door for a while and like Corofin have a very strong panel, looks like they've 8 players who've played for Kerry in recent years. I don't think there will be much in it and I'm expecting the winners to go all the way.

TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 30/11/2016 09:58:42    1937475

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If Corofin entered the NFL i would bet any money they would finish bottom of Div 4,The gulf between club and inter county is huge.Put it this way..Which Leitrim/Wicklow/Waterford player from their starting 15 wouldn't walk onto the Corofin team?

lasertech (UK) - Posts: 129 - 30/11/2016 11:15:59    1937491

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Replying To golfcar:  "Folks, what if Corofin were a county team - I know Brigids made them look like Dublin but I still feel they could easily beat most division 3 teams and would even beat some div 2 teams with the intensity they have any opinions?"
A fairly average Castlebar team brought them to ET and the Castlebar free taker couldn't kick frees from more than 30 yards if even that

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/11/2016 11:46:05    1937499

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Replying To tiobraid:  "A fairly average Castlebar team brought them to ET and the Castlebar free taker couldn't kick frees from more than 30 yards if even that"
That 'fairly average' Castlebar team has also knocked them out of Connacht twice in recent years and were playing for the sixth weekend in succession, let's not forget.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 30/11/2016 14:39:06    1937572

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Replying To Gleebo:  "That 'fairly average' Castlebar team has also knocked them out of Connacht twice in recent years and were playing for the sixth weekend in succession, let's not forget."
Sorry I just don't buy the 'playing 6 weeks in a row' story for the extra-time defeat. If anything they were better prepared to win the game having played 6 weeks running.

I come from a running/Athletics background - although heavily influenced by GAA. From a physicality perspective running hard for 6weeks in a row would bring on both your aerobic an anaerobic capacity greatly - you look at targeting a good 5k, really you need 3-4 weeks of cognisant hard running or 5k races before your target 5k race. Now from a S&C angle - perhaps the knocks and belts do take somewhat from condition although this would happen in training as well.

From both a GAA and athletics perspective, I think playing solidly every week is a huge bonus. You have your match prep nearly off to a tee, and you can concentrate on recovery, tactics and specific training during the week - all gearing up for the weekend.

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 706 - 30/11/2016 15:16:25    1937583

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Replying To Gleebo:  "That 'fairly average' Castlebar team has also knocked them out of Connacht twice in recent years and were playing for the sixth weekend in succession, let's not forget."
I don't go to Mayo club matches and I don't think 2015 is in anyway relevant but they were average on the day, so maybe my point was badly made.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/11/2016 15:47:33    1937589

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Dunno whos worse for 'bigging' themselves up, Northerners or Westerners. The two least successfull provinces in Ireland. Dr Crokes will probably beat Corofin and no one will blink an eye"
Corofin will probably beat Crokes imo.

It's silly talk saying that Corofin are better than county teams. The vast bulk of Corofin's successful club players, going back to 1991, have failed to make a serious impact at intercounty level. That's not a surprising or unique phenomenon either. For examples, in hurling since the 90's, Sarfields, Athenry & Portumna had dominant phases, where they were loaded with players who were hugely effective all the way to all-ireland club level, but were relatively ineffective at intercounty level. That might not be entirely due to the standard of those players either, but could relate in part to the possiblility that these players are somewhat sated appetite wise from their club exploits alone.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3422 - 30/11/2016 16:10:22    1937606

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Replying To lasertech:  "If Corofin entered the NFL i would bet any money they would finish bottom of Div 4,The gulf between club and inter county is huge.Put it this way..Which Leitrim/Wicklow/Waterford player from their starting 15 wouldn't walk onto the Corofin team?"
I'd have to argue with that.
Any of Corofins 6 forwards would walk onto them county teams STARTING.
Farragher x 2, Lundy, Wall, Sice, Burke and Leonard. I live on leitrim border.
There is guys starting with Leitrim that wouldnt get near a Corofin, Vincents, Ballymun, Crokes etc team

gowna02 (Cavan) - Posts: 99 - 30/11/2016 16:55:22    1937619

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