Beaten by a Waterford club in the Munster SFC (and IFC v Limerick) and to me Glen Rovers were no match for Ballyea yesterday. Both county teams are doing bad by Cork standards at senior level. Underage is making no real impact. What is happening along the Lee? Are Cork going soft or is just one of those things that happen every so often?

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 21/11/2016 13:02:22    1935740

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 21/11/2016 13:20:30    1935743

Things are not great but we don't need to exaggerate either. We are not that bad underage. At under 14-17 level our teams are flying it - in terms of number of trophies won in the last 2/3 years, we are well ahead of the rest (I am not saying we are better than the rest). Our senior club teams have not won the championship in a few years but then again Clare teams had not won it in 16 years before yesterday. The Glen were super confident that they would win the game. They had beaten the Limerick champions in Limerick. Before that game, one would say that it was the toughest possible draw. The Limerick championship is as tough as it gets and the Glen won a tough game against them. They had every reason to believe they could win yesterday. As it transpired, they were beaten by a much better team on the day. That is what counts and fair play to an excellent Ballyea side. We have no complaints at all.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/11/2016 14:42:32    1935762

Bennybunny,

"At under 14-17 level our teams are flying it - in terms of number of trophies won in the last 2/3 years, we are well ahead of the rest"

Same thing was said last year. What happened your minor hurlers this year?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/11/2016 15:11:07    1935769

I think Cork hurling fell into the trap of thinking that they'd just always have competitive teams and maybe haven't put the work in at underage level that happened in other counties. The old idea that a 'Cork team could get together overnight' and challenge for the All-Ireland next year was an idea believed by too many perhaps. They were a bit like Dublin in football in that regards

But I think they could end up like Dublin in football now once they get organised. There are certainly signs that they are getting organised. I think when that bears fruit we might all be wishing for the return of these days!!! Rebel Óg seem to be cleaning up underage titles of late. Be afraid lads, be very afraid!

In terms of football Cork remain the great enigma. Serious talent produced in Cork during the 00s on and it only yielded the one All-Ireland. They really should be more competitive than they are as after their win in 2010 there was talk of a dominance on the horizon. I actually don't think it would take much work to have Cork seriously competing for Sam. I think a home grown Pat Gilroy or Jim McGuinness is what they need.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 21/11/2016 15:21:37    1935774

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/11/2016 15:25:45    1935776

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/11/2016 15:33:36    1935777

They beat that Tipp team 12 months previous, no?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/11/2016 15:54:39    1935779

As Bennybunny says they are destroying all in front of them from 14 to 17 so don't worry about Cork they will be back. I'll stick my neck out and say they'll win an All Ireland before KK will win another! Get goods on that one! ;)

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/11/2016 16:19:50    1935784

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/11/2016 16:36:16    1935789

U17.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/11/2016 17:29:13    1935800

theres no shame on carberry being beat by the waterford champions the nire whatsoever...in fact, and im not a betting man at all, id say the nire went into that as favourites. a very decent outfit to be fair...so i wouldnt say cork gaa is a shambles for that reason.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 21/11/2016 18:12:33    1935810

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/11/2016 18:52:23    1935814

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 21/11/2016 19:23:13    1935817

n 2015 we beat Limerick and then lost to Limerick..two games against the same county
bennybunny (Cork) - Posts:3337 - 21/11/2016 16:36:16

correct in minor - first game in cork - and your reward for beating limerick - to play limerick in semi away from home - odd system at times!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 21/11/2016 21:57:48    1935854

We in Limericks know what happens when a County
Board engage in huge capital projects. Underage games development suffers

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 21/11/2016 22:11:33    1935859

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/11/2016 23:08:05    1935866

Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 738 - 22/11/2016 17:10:19    1936031

73forever (Limerick) - Posts: 89 - 22/11/2016 17:29:44    1936039

Fact is....only a select few teams are going to win anything this year.
Tipperary should win hurling again. Dublin should win football with Mayo/Tyrone as challengers.
Tipp/Kilkenny/Cork historically have won most All Irelands. Don't see any change here. Limerick last won in 1973/Dublin in 1938.
Cork have lean period much like Tipp in 1970'S but will be back
In football...Kerry and Dublin have won most All Ireland's. Don't see any change here in future.
Statistics never lie.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 23/11/2016 13:19:29    1936226