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Galway & Kerry into Munster Hurling Champioship

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I believe Galway have a raw deal involved in the Leinster championship. No Home games and there Minors and 21s not involved. I for one would welcome them in the Munster championship, minor, 21 & senior. The more hurling the better. Sure a trip to Salthill would be something new. Great work is & has been done in Kerry with regards to hurling and I hope to see Kerry Hurlers in the Munster championship also and a competitive team in it Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 738 - 16/08/2016 11:28:11 1901679 Link
i agree kerry should be brought back into munster,but geography was never the gaa's strongpoint! but being honest,face the facts,both provincial championships are dead.munster championship has been very poor for the last few years,while leinster has the problem of kilkenny's dominance but hopefully that will come to an end soon. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/08/2016 12:21:45 1901720 Link
Replying To Southsham: "I believe Galway have a raw deal involved in the Leinster championship. No Home games and there Minors and 21s not involved. I for one would welcome them in the Munster championship, minor, 21 & senior. The more hurling the better. Sure a trip to Salthill would be something new. Great work is & has been done in Kerry with regards to hurling and I hope to see Kerry Hurlers in the Munster championship also and a competitive team in it" Still think we are a couple of years away from being involved with the big boys in Munster. If we can consolidate our Division 1b status next spring and maybe prove capable of building on that by qualifying from the Leinster round robin we might see that discussion take place. Agree about Galway, it's not fair that they don't get home games or that the arrangement for involvement in Leinster is only extended to the seniors. But I feel they should stay in Leinster, its provincial championship is very much the poorer brother of the Munster competition and it needs a strong county like Galway in it. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 16/08/2016 12:23:54 1901721 Link
the current farcical system that is the supposed Provincial championships needs to be abandoned and a fair system needs to be put in place at all levels. Our hurlers were accused of being gutless and while they didn't get there, they certainly stood up and fought. Now is the time for our administrators to stand up and do the same thing, we can't allow ourselves to continue to be second class citizen onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 16/08/2016 12:26:48 1901723 Link
Replying To perfect10: "i agree kerry should be brought back into munster,but geography was never the gaa's strongpoint! but being honest,face the facts,both provincial championships are dead.munster championship has been very poor for the last few years,while leinster has the problem of kilkenny's dominance but hopefully that will come to an end soon." There aren't very many teams competing, the championship should just be league based. 10 or 12 or however many teams in it you want. The provincial championships get played as fixtures within that league system. 6 team play off series at the end. 1 maybe even 2 teams relegated. If Kerry are in that top tier league they qualify for the Munster championship. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 16/08/2016 12:31:05 1901725 Link
think myself galway should but put into leinster - seems they want to go in themselves, bit odd they are in there for intermediate. i think the provincials should stay - winning a provincial title is a major honour , would tipp fans have celebrated like they did this year or limerick or cork fans invaded pitch in 2013 and 2014 for say a last 16 or maybe even quarter final also usually in provincial championship the teams are nearer each other so easier for fans to get to games janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/08/2016 12:47:17 1901739 Link
scrap provincial championships and create a level playing field for 32 counties. open draw, back doors, wild cards, 4 quarter finals etc etc suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 16/08/2016 12:58:59 1901752 Link
Replying To janesboro: "think myself galway should but put into leinster - seems they want to go in themselves, bit odd they are in there for intermediate. i think the provincials should stay - winning a provincial title is a major honour , would tipp fans have celebrated like they did this year or limerick or cork fans invaded pitch in 2013 and 2014 for say a last 16 or maybe even quarter final also usually in provincial championship the teams are nearer each other so easier for fans to get to games" it is not a major honour any more though,it used to be but now people don't really care about the provincial championships. what i really want to see is more of richie hogan,noel mcgrath,shane dowling,conor mcdonald,etc than 2-3-4 championship games. it might also help plan club matches if teams knew they had 2-3-4 games in the space of 6 weeks,speed the whole championship up,make room for the clubs,it can be done. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/08/2016 13:12:21 1901767 Link
the current farcical system that is the supposed Provincial championships needs to be abandoned and a fair system needs to be put in place at all levels. Our hurlers were accused of being gutless and while they didn't get there, they certainly stood up and fought. Now is the time for our administrators to stand up and do the same thing, we can't allow ourselves to continue to be second class citizen onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts:737 - 16/08/2016 12:26:48Scrapping the provincial championships would be crazy but their role in the fights for Liam/Sam need to change. scrap provincial championships and create a level playing field for 32 counties. open draw, back doors, wild cards, 4 quarter finals etc etc suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts:611 - 16/08/2016 12:58:59 Scrapping them reduces the amount of prizes a team can win. It especially doesn't help weaker counties who can win the odd bit of silverware in the provinces. It also doesn't help with media attention if you reduce the number of finals and competitions to be played for ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/08/2016 13:13:45 1901768 Link
I go to a lot of Kerry IC and club hurling matches and the truth is we would do well to get within 20-25 points of any of the Munster sides despite the progress we have made. If you think Kerry are at a significant disadvantage when trying to compete with an outfit like Dublin in football, it pales in comparison to the chasm between our hurlers and the other 5. We have 8 clubs and at Minor Level there have been games cancelled due to clubs not being able to field a team. We were competing at the 'A' Level in the Munster Minor and weren't even close to being competitive which is why we are in the 'B' grade where are going for 5 in a row this year KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 16/08/2016 13:17:31 1901772 Link
think myself galway should but put into leinster for minor and 21 should have put bolded bit in last post janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/08/2016 13:30:02 1901785 Link
Replying To janesboro: "think myself galway should but put into leinster for minor and 21 should have put bolded bit in last post" I agree with this idea and have a game in Salthill now and again maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 16/08/2016 14:23:20 1901825 Link
Where is the opposition coming from for Galway to be entered in the Minor & 21 in Leinster? Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 738 - 17/08/2016 09:47:19 1902114 Link
Replying To Southsham: "Where is the opposition coming from for Galway to be entered in the Minor & 21 in Leinster?" http://galwaygaa.ie/index.php/en/latest-gaa-news-home-categoty-list/376-leinster-council-says-no-to-galway janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 17/08/2016 10:44:23 1902144 Link
Replying To Southsham: "Where is the opposition coming from for Galway to be entered in the Minor & 21 in Leinster?" As a hurling man and with hurling's best interest at heart, I would welcome Galway and Antrim with open arms into Leinster at all levels. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 17/08/2016 11:11:49 1902171 Link
This discussion is relevant if Kerry earn a seeded status. Laois only had seeded status for a year. If Kerry were of seeded status for more than 1 year it might be time to rejoin the Munster championship. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 18/08/2016 17:01:35 1902889 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "This discussion is relevant if Kerry earn a seeded status. Laois only had seeded status for a year. If Kerry were of seeded status for more than 1 year it might be time to rejoin the Munster championship." Is there a reason why the Leinster qualifier group couldn't just be a general qualification group. If Kerry are in the top 2 they play in the Munster quarter-final. 6 and 6 in each provincial championship instead of 7&5. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 18/08/2016 17:16:25 1902902 Link
Both hold on now a minute, would that not leave you with 7 counties in each province? Give the previous year's champion a bye to the semi final and then let the other 6 playoff in an unseeded draw for the 3 remaining semi final spots. Surely that'd make too much sense and make things a bit too even? if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 18/08/2016 17:18:18 1902904 Link
Is there a reason why the Leinster qualifier group couldn't just be a general qualification group. If Kerry are in the top 2 they play in the Munster quarter-final. 6 and 6 in each provincial championship instead of 7&5. Whammo86 (Antrim) I presumed Kerry would have entered the Munster championship upon a top 2 placing. I also presumed it would have meant if Kerry pulled off a shock Munster quarter-final win that the defeated team would drop into the qualifier group. Possibly for now they want to avoid the uncertainty of whether there will be an extra Munster quarter-final or not. This current year could be as good as it gets for our hurlers. I doubt the GAA will give it much consideration until the media response to a shock Kerry win in a Leinster quarter-final, if we ever see such a day! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 18/08/2016 17:44:33 1902922 Link
Replying To perfect10: "i agree kerry should be brought back into munster,but geography was never the gaa's strongpoint! but being honest,face the facts,both provincial championships are dead.munster championship has been very poor for the last few years,while leinster has the problem of kilkenny's dominance but hopefully that will come to an end soon." Pulling Galway out of Lein weakens the brake on KK dominance. Also, Kerry finds their own level better in Lein - so I'd leave it alone. Unlike football, the hurling structure works quite well - although could do with more games (a la football's proposed two groups of four). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2592 - 19/08/2016 15:13:26 1903239 Link