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When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 06/08/2016 19:00:39 1896755 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow." 100% agree with you. The two yellows is the easy way out and it pays to start something. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 06/08/2016 19:11:02 1896768 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow." Couldn't agree more. Complete cop out by refs when they do this. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 06/08/2016 19:11:51 1896769 Link
I have another one today when ref is on to donegal goalie to hurry up but it takes tyrone goalie ninety seconds to take a free by the time he gets up. If a guy out of his hand took that long ref would throw it up Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 06/08/2016 19:24:35 1896788 Link
I have another one today when ref is on to donegal goalie to hurry up but it takes tyrone goalie ninety seconds to take a free by the time he gets up. If a guy out of his hand took that long ref would throw it up Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 06/08/2016 19:25:01 1896789 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow." Well unfortunately there is only one McEaneny. Best referee ever. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 06/08/2016 19:41:05 1896796 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow." Agree, its a total cop out. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/08/2016 19:41:25 1896798 Link
Replying To Malonemagic: "I have another one today when ref is on to donegal goalie to hurry up but it takes tyrone goalie ninety seconds to take a free by the time he gets up. If a guy out of his hand took that long ref would throw it up" That is now been taken care of by additional 'injury' time being added. jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 06/08/2016 19:58:17 1896822 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Well unfortunately there is only one McEaneny. Best referee ever." Ya he was but he still picked two from twenty in 1996 and the two didn't start it so its a mute point! Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 06/08/2016 19:59:52 1896823 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow." Agree 100% As long as refs keeping giving the 2 yellows players will keep starting those incidents MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 06/08/2016 20:07:01 1896832 Link
Replying To jimski: "That is now been taken care of by additional 'injury' time being added." Injury time makes no difference if the ref throws up the ball and you lose your original free in or kick out . Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 06/08/2016 20:09:09 1896838 Link
Agreed & some teams with a blanket defence will start a player there willing to sacrifice in order to get the star player in the opposition a card. They will then rotate markers on that player digging at him, sledging pick up a tick from the ref then another marker. The standard of officiating is shocking but the way the game has descended into pulling, dragging, sledging, diving, holding your face as if you have been murdered, all manners of cheating to win at any cost is disgraceful. There is no honour, integrity, manliness, sportsmanship in Gaelic footballers anymore. Every kid watching is learning & then playing like this. Cheap puke football played in a spiteful manner that is a bore to watch & it's about time people dropped their county & Gaa hats & called it what it is. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 06/08/2016 20:22:49 1896865 Link
I don't have the stats but it seems as though more players are walking from the field because of debatable cards and this scenario certainly adds to that factor. Unless a ref has seen two players both commit yellow card offences, the correct action is a quick word and threaten yellow if it continues. Players are going to get in each others face, simple as, its always been part of the game and probably always will be. As long as it doesn't go over the top I don't see any problem with it. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 06/08/2016 20:56:09 1896893 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Well unfortunately there is only one McEaneny. Best referee ever." Yep when there is an all out brawl involving thirty players he gives two reds, one to the best player on one team and one to.....Colm Coyle. Best referee ever. I'm sorry Royal I thought I'd gotten over it. On the yellow card thing I'm surprised we haven't seen the scenario where player A pulls down player B off the ball. Both get yellow. Later on player C pulls down player B off the ball. Player C gets yellow but player B, who could be totally innocent, gets second yellow and therefore red. Come to think of it, can you get me Stephen Rochford on the line please.... Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 06/08/2016 22:19:28 1896982 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow." Referee's love a good cop out. Giving a throw ball instead of a free. Booking both players instead of the instigator. Allowing "afters" after a free or penalty instead or reversing it or bringing it forward. Allowing goalies a million steps and/or soft free Allowing 2 mins for a keeper to take a free Not stopping his watch for delays due to blaggarding during injury time. Bringing his neighbour/cousin/brother-in-law with him to matches as umpire instead of someone who knows the rules tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 07/08/2016 08:36:23 1897135 Link
When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts:717 - 06/08/2016 19:00:39 No generally its better game management to give both players a yellow as it can cut out the nonsense. Yes there possibly and probably is 1 player much more at fault but if neither deserves a red then you give both a yellow in the hope that it will cut all the nonsense out ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/08/2016 11:29:34 1897230 Link
agree 100% with the opening poster as time and again connolly in particular i notice is targetted this way the opposition are happy for their own player to pick up a yellow as long as connolly gets one with him for the incident. whats even worse is the refs seem to punish the reactor more than the aggressor in a lot of incidents. surely the player who goes looking for the trouble should be given a bigger caution than the player who defends himself. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/08/2016 11:42:32 1897236 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "When there's a schmozzle between 2 players and the referee automatically gives both players a yellow card. Sometimes one player is much more at fault than the other player. One player could deserve a red. One of the players could deserve a talking to while the other deserves a yellow. Treat the incident and the players on their own merits. I think it's a cop out when a ref just gives them both a yellow. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts:717 - 06/08/2016 19:00:39 No generally its better game management to give both players a yellow as it can cut out the nonsense. Yes there possibly and probably is 1 player much more at fault but if neither deserves a red then you give both a yellow in the hope that it will cut all the nonsense out" Jesus , but that is twisted logic and is complete nonsense . How is it anything to do with game management if a fella is deliberately targeted and the instigator is treated with the same punishment. Perhaps if the aggressor was carded or sent off it might prevent him doing it in the first place. I'm sure that makes no sense to you though. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 07/08/2016 11:54:52 1897250 Link
Whammo absolutely agree. Also you'd have to fault the Umpires because usually they are looking straight at it as one fella clearly strikes the other. Then they report back to referee to give 2 yellows. It makes it a very easy way for a team to put pressure on opposition top player by getting a yellow each. tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 07/08/2016 12:13:24 1897262 Link
There are SEVEN in-game officials and the 4th official is an eighth official. Does any field game in the world have more officials? There's also Hawkeye for a lot of the big games. They're not maximising the refereeing potential for the number of officials they have. Most umpires should go to a fitness bootcamp and ref the endline on their side of the pitch when play is down there. Umpires and linesmen should be making calls and consulting with the ref when frees and cards are being given. I know they are now but I think they need to be doing more so it might prevent refs making rash and incorrect decisions. The ref hasn't eyes in the back of his head so umpires and linesmen can spot off the ball hitting,sledging etc. It'd slow the game down in parts but hopefully make it fairer. No need for a TMO just yet. A pile of money to pay for a system that mightn't improve anything when they're not making enough use of the refereeing manpower they have already. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 07/08/2016 12:24:24 1897269 Link