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Just watching Kerry beat Clare here and really, Kerry must foul more than everyone else. Jersey pulling, hands on the shoulder, pushes in the back. They must have given away dozens of fouls today and that doesn't include the ones the referee turned a blind eye to. I watched Kerry play against Tipperary and again they were unreal in the way they fouled TIpperary any time they looked to threaten. They base their defence on fouling and then getting numbers back. I don't think there is any other team in the country who is as systematic at these fouls which they know while persistent, can't be punished by black cards. Very poor to watch and very cynical. icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 31/07/2016 15:35:48 1892845 Link 5 |
Totally agree, other teams do it but only do it when it's needed, however Kerry do it in all areas of the pitch and when it isn't required. It's awful to watch and not picked up by the analysts as it would be if Dublin or Donegal do it. It's beautiful ruthless Kerry in their opinion.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 31/07/2016 15:54:10 1892860 Link 2 |
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 31/07/2016 15:59:16 1892866 Link 0 |
Are you asking us or telling us? And have you stats to back up that claim? It I want you to get Dublin Mayo Tyrone Donegal and our stats so we can compare them all. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/07/2016 17:15:54 1892901 Link 0 |
Kerry dont but donaghy does. Gets away with murder Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 31/07/2016 17:21:29 1892908 Link 0 |
NO!
SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 31/07/2016 17:21:44 1892909 Link 0 |
There's many an assertion about Ulster football without stats but you have to agree how much Kerry foul it's constant and it's been happening a long time.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 31/07/2016 17:25:47 1892910 Link 0 |
Donaghy punched a Clare guy in the first half and he wasn't even spoken to? sam2008 (Tyrone) - Posts: 797 - 31/07/2016 17:30:16 1892919 Link 1 |
Kerry have been doing this for a long time. if you like watch them they stop the opposition from attacking in the middle of the pitch. They pull or put a hand on the shoulder for a few seconds to slow down the player. Refs hardly ever blow it up but even when they do its in the middle of the pitch and gives kerry time to get numbers back. It's clear but it is as cynical and deliberate as I have ever seen. kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 31/07/2016 18:25:52 1893013 Link 1 |
I don't have to agree to anything unless ye have proof of this claim that we are supposed to foul more than any other team. Ice honesty Should back up his assertion with facts. And this is not me being angry but I really honestly want to know is it a FACT that we foul more than any1 else? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/07/2016 19:42:30 1893078 Link 0 |
Not only that, but they commit what I would describe as "half fouls"- the little tug as an opponent breaks through, just enough to slow momentum, and usually unpunished. football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 31/07/2016 20:25:37 1893107 Link 0 |
I think all the top teams foul quite a lot. Tactical/cynical fouling or whatever you want to call it is part of the game nowadays...unfortunately. Most supporters can see every team doing it except their own team. The black card was supposed to get rid of cynical fouling but I can't see much difference. As the Kerry posters have said, it would be great to see the actual stats instead of arguing about who fouls the most. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 31/07/2016 20:29:20 1893113 Link 0 |
All the top teams do it and little difference between any of them. The Refs should give a tick for it- as that is only way of stopping it. Donaghy's foul was no better or worse than most others I have seen all year so I would not dwell on it. I did notice that the Kerry players were too close to the free taker many times and got away with it. Most good teams are able to spot a Ref weakness and proceed to do what the think the'll get away with. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 31/07/2016 20:43:12 1893143 Link 0 |
I wouldnt say they foul more.......they get away with it more. Like a team will foul until the ref puts his foot down. I was at the Donegal Cork games yesterday and it was a really clean game. Hardly a tackle in the game. Watching Kerry playing today they were blocking runners. Dragging guys to the ground. But it was unpunished; they got away with it. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 31/07/2016 21:05:23 1893183 Link 0 |
This is an old debate in that people associate Kerry with the stylists of the past- and some of the present. There is no doubt that they Kerry are in my opinion one of the worst if not the worst at stopping the momentum of other teams. In particular they regularly do it to Cork particularly if Cork get a few scores together then they foul out the field to stop momentum and to quieten the Cork support. That has been a tendency of this Kerry team. carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 31/07/2016 21:05:35 1893184 Link 0 |
Yes, yes they do. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 31/07/2016 21:14:44 1893189 Link 1 |
Iv watched a good few Dublin games this year and Dublin seem to get a lot of easy frees at the start of first half and second halfs giving ye the chance to build a lead and totally deflate ye'r opposition . So I want to know do Dublin get too many easy frees? And how many more easy frees do Dublin get compared to all the rest of us. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/07/2016 23:20:04 1893278 Link 0 |
Iv watched a good few Dublin games this year and Dublin seem to get a lot of easy frees at the start of first half and second halfs giving ye the chance to build a lead and totally deflate ye'r opposition . So I want to know do Dublin get too many easy frees? And how many more easy frees do Dublin get compared to all the rest of us. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/07/2016 23:28:31 1893283 Link 0 |
You should have taken the 'Do' out of the thread because it's obvious to everything but referees and the salivating, fawning, worshipping Southern media that Kerry DO INDEED foul more than most other sides. However to even suggest this is sedition and not part of the plan where the only narrative is that 'it's ONLY Ulster sides that do this'. Move along, nothing to report here!
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 01/08/2016 01:22:40 1893303 Link 1 |
This thread should be about the standard of referee we have, ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 649 - 01/08/2016 09:48:53 1893351 Link 0 |