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Podge Collins dive

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If we're going to slate Aidan O Shea, then Podge deserves the same treatment very bad dive and playing acting from Collins really disappointed in him there getting a man sent off, Collins a guy I really like but no excuse for that bs.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 23/07/2016 16:15:25    1888554

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Agreed. Shameful.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 23/07/2016 16:44:33    1888560

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Divers should be red carded it is the pits of unsporting behaviour too much soccer tactics invading GAA but let's not take away from Clare. Cometo think of it weren't Munster counties unfortunate to have to come up against Kerry every year particularly Cork who would surely have doubled their tally of All Ireland's had they not the unfortunate fate of Munster final against the aristocrats to contend with year after year

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 23/07/2016 16:48:01    1888562

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "If we're going to slate Aidan O Shea, then Podge deserves the same treatment very bad dive and playing acting from Collins really disappointed in him there getting a man sent off, Collins a guy I really like but no excuse for that bs."
i have to agree ..another dirty dive

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 23/07/2016 16:59:17    1888566

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If I ever see a Meathman doing this he is in trouble. :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 23/07/2016 17:30:30    1888578

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It's gas there was three pages on the O Shea dive at this stage , the bigger the fish you are the more abuse you get , we know all about that up here now Mayo
Getting to realise what it's like.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 23/07/2016 17:50:36    1888582

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Replying To 37sowhat:  "Divers should be red carded it is the pits of unsporting behaviour too much soccer tactics invading GAA but let's not take away from Clare. Cometo think of it weren't Munster counties unfortunate to have to come up against Kerry every year particularly Cork who would surely have doubled their tally of All Ireland's had they not the unfortunate fate of Munster final against the aristocrats to contend with year after year"
Put Kerry in Ulster/ Leinster over the years, how many All Ireland's would they have?

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1740 - 23/07/2016 18:01:07    1888589

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Put Kerry in Ulster/ Leinster over the years, how many All Ireland's would they have?"
I'd still reckon they'd have at least 20-30

But you're right. They wouldn't have as many as they have now but no doubt they'd still have an impressive tally

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 23/07/2016 18:17:32    1888596

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Put Kerry in Ulster/ Leinster over the years, how many All Ireland's would they have?"
You might want to rethink that statement

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 23/07/2016 18:21:01    1888600

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Replying To cityman73:  "You might want to rethink that statement"
Why?

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 23/07/2016 18:47:57    1888622

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Replying To benjyyy:  "Why?"
Okay I'll start with this year,how many Ulster teams and Leinster teams are left in the championship and poor old munster teams that roll over and let Kerry win,how many are still there and I know this year is different to most years but if you can honestly say that outside of Dublin in Leinster over the last ten years would of beaten Kerry then you haven't a clue and in Ulster Donegal Tyrone that's two out of nine

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 23/07/2016 19:04:02    1888636

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Replying To benjyyy:  "Why?"
It's all fluff. We are where we are and we've won what we've won.
Munster football looks like it's getting stronger and I for 1 am happy bout that.

Fair play to both tipp and Clare.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/07/2016 19:06:48    1888638

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Replying To cityman73:  "Okay I'll start with this year,how many Ulster teams and Leinster teams are left in the championship and poor old munster teams that roll over and let Kerry win,how many are still there and I know this year is different to most years but if you can honestly say that outside of Dublin in Leinster over the last ten years would of beaten Kerry then you haven't a clue and in Ulster Donegal Tyrone that's two out of nine"
Think its you that doesnt have a clue Limerickman, other Ulster teams have beaten Kerry in the c/ship, including Down by 6pts in the 2010 q/f

Burnsey (Down) - Posts: 561 - 23/07/2016 19:14:30    1888654

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Replying To cityman73:  "Okay I'll start with this year,how many Ulster teams and Leinster teams are left in the championship and poor old munster teams that roll over and let Kerry win,how many are still there and I know this year is different to most years but if you can honestly say that outside of Dublin in Leinster over the last ten years would of beaten Kerry then you haven't a clue and in Ulster Donegal Tyrone that's two out of nine"
Must be on the wrong thread boys.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 23/07/2016 19:18:05    1888658

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O'Shea got stick about diving, however the problem was with the Ref who allowed him having received a yellow card to stay on the field when he tackled a player to the ground by the neck- a clear black card. Its up to the Ref to follow play and see the obvious- too much variance between games and the Dublin/Westmeath match had incidents that in other matches would have received cards.

It is much easier to come out of a province when you have one strong team with many weak ones. Ulster has consistently been the most competitive with Leinster second up until the last few years.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/07/2016 19:21:43    1888662

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Replying To cityman73:  "Okay I'll start with this year,how many Ulster teams and Leinster teams are left in the championship and poor old munster teams that roll over and let Kerry win,how many are still there and I know this year is different to most years but if you can honestly say that outside of Dublin in Leinster over the last ten years would of beaten Kerry then you haven't a clue and in Ulster Donegal Tyrone that's two out of nine"
This year or indeed the last 10 years don't matter a whole lot to the argument. The point is that Kerry would have had a much tougher time getting out of Ulster or Leinster before the back door. Sure, they could be the best team but even when you are the best team you might only be 70% to win a game. If you have to play 3 games where you are a 70% favourite, you are only going to win all 3 games 0.7*0.7*0.7 = 34% of the time. That's what makes it harder to come out of Ulster or Leinster.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 23/07/2016 19:27:41    1888672

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A bit off topic lads.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 23/07/2016 19:30:43    1888676

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Put Kerry in Ulster/ Leinster over the years, how many All Ireland's would they have?"
Leinster Football - Don't make me laugh!!!

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 23/07/2016 19:32:20    1888677

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Replying To benjyyy:  "This year or indeed the last 10 years don't matter a whole lot to the argument. The point is that Kerry would have had a much tougher time getting out of Ulster or Leinster before the back door. Sure, they could be the best team but even when you are the best team you might only be 70% to win a game. If you have to play 3 games where you are a 70% favourite, you are only going to win all 3 games 0.7*0.7*0.7 = 34% of the time. That's what makes it harder to come out of Ulster or Leinster."
Okay forget the last ten years,in the early nineties Kerry were very poor team and didn't come near winning a all Ireland cause they were a poor side,cork in the late 80's were a very good side came out of Munster but didn't win enough finals as a great Kerry team would of

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 23/07/2016 19:35:59    1888680

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Replying To benjyyy:  "This year or indeed the last 10 years don't matter a whole lot to the argument. The point is that Kerry would have had a much tougher time getting out of Ulster or Leinster before the back door. Sure, they could be the best team but even when you are the best team you might only be 70% to win a game. If you have to play 3 games where you are a 70% favourite, you are only going to win all 3 games 0.7*0.7*0.7 = 34% of the time. That's what makes it harder to come out of Ulster or Leinster."
No one is disputing the strength of Ulster in the last 10-15 years but Leinster has been a joke during that timespan

What team in Leinster are Dublin only 70% likely to beat? They were 1/200 to beat Westmeath in the Leinster Final. I think they were 1/66 to beat Meath.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 23/07/2016 19:37:08    1888682

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