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No mention of Cork, they are capable

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I think that Cork on paper have one of the top 4 teams in the country. I am not playing doing my own teams chance here, I believe that we could beat them for sure, but I believe that cork are a team that could not only beat us, but also give the dubs an absolute stinker of a game should they get through to the quarters. It amazes me that they have been so badly off the boil for the last 5 or 6 seasons, but the league has shown us that they more than any other side will give the dubs a horrid time in croke park if that is the way the dice fall.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 20/07/2016 10:48:01    1886858

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Replying To Donegalman:  "I think that Cork on paper have one of the top 4 teams in the country. I am not playing doing my own teams chance here, I believe that we could beat them for sure, but I believe that cork are a team that could not only beat us, but also give the dubs an absolute stinker of a game should they get through to the quarters. It amazes me that they have been so badly off the boil for the last 5 or 6 seasons, but the league has shown us that they more than any other side will give the dubs a horrid time in croke park if that is the way the dice fall."
Always have the talent, especially up front, but if Donegal can get themselves mentally right, and attack a bit more they should do the job.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7895 - 20/07/2016 11:02:52    1886869

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Always have the talent, especially up front, but if Donegal can get themselves mentally right, and attack a bit more they should do the job."
Agree with Flaker - they have to be one of the biggest underachievers in football history considering the talent and physical specimens they have. That said cant see past Donegal in next round.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 20/07/2016 11:10:03    1886875

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Replying To Donegalman:  "I think that Cork on paper have one of the top 4 teams in the country. I am not playing doing my own teams chance here, I believe that we could beat them for sure, but I believe that cork are a team that could not only beat us, but also give the dubs an absolute stinker of a game should they get through to the quarters. It amazes me that they have been so badly off the boil for the last 5 or 6 seasons, but the league has shown us that they more than any other side will give the dubs a horrid time in croke park if that is the way the dice fall."
Agree although if both Cork and Mayo win it is an open draw to see who plays Dublin and Tyrone. Cork are no mugs and have been badly burnt with criticism is recent seasons. They could take it all out on Donegal who seemed to invest everything in winning Ulster.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 20/07/2016 11:43:47    1886894

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No they just don't have it, yes they've talented players but they won't beat Donegal or Dublin, they had a brilliant team 6/7 years ago that should of won 2 maybe 3 Sam's but only barely won one they just never seem to have what it takes.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/07/2016 11:57:56    1886902

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I'd never underestimate Cork, down the years coming into a Munster Championship game against us they can look on a hiding to nothing only to turn up and turn us over.

If Cork played to the limits of their ability they can beat any team in a one off game.

Their problem is, as always, inconsistency. Look at last year, should have beaten us in the drawn Munster final and then they go down to a Kildare team we put 7 goals past a game later!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 20/07/2016 12:00:01    1886903

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yeah its mad no mention of them at all. I do think they could beat Donegal but I also think Donegal would give Dublin a better game.
Cork are very capable and if their midfield bosses like it did last weekend we could be screwed.

From a Cork persons perspective what do you think of your chances. The Cork team has changed a good bit since we played ye in championship so I wouldn't actually know much about ye.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 20/07/2016 12:00:36    1886904

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Donegal man your judging on the league so do you think Roscommon would hammer you's seen as they beat you's in the league ?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/07/2016 12:03:44    1886906

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If Dublin meet Cork it will be a massacre. We would destroy them....again

If Dublin meet Donegal it will be MUCH tighter. No one will hammer Donegal. They are good enough to rattle anyone

Cork are a basket case and Dublin would destroy them

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 20/07/2016 12:05:50    1886908

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We'd love to play Donegal just cause we know how tough it will be and let's be honest we want revenge but if I could have my pick out of Donegal Cork or Mayo for easiest game it's Cork all day long. We would beat Cork the other 2 are maybe's.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/07/2016 12:07:36    1886909

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Donegal v Cork is going to hinge a lot on our mid field on the day. We were non-existent the last day out and this wont do against cork. I am not sure about how cork's forwards are at the moment, but I would suspect they have really big men in their ranks which could spell trouble if they go long. I saw them in the league in ballyshannon but they were awful that day. They just about turned up to fulfil the fixture. I could see their potential in flashes of the first half. But not enough to get an angle on either.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 20/07/2016 12:08:56    1886911

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Replying To dstuction:  "yeah its mad no mention of them at all. I do think they could beat Donegal but I also think Donegal would give Dublin a better game.
Cork are very capable and if their midfield bosses like it did last weekend we could be screwed.

From a Cork persons perspective what do you think of your chances. The Cork team has changed a good bit since we played ye in championship so I wouldn't actually know much about ye."
Worth a two euro bet ,think they are at something crazy like 50/1 for an AI but leicester city were 5000/1 for the prem,they still have a good panel.Would love to see themselves do a Leicester city job on it if ourselves didn't win it.

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 20/07/2016 12:14:29    1886914

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games aren't played on paper. There is a reason they aren't being talked about. Cause they aren't a threat.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 20/07/2016 12:25:39    1886921

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Cork are constantly on the verge of collapse, year after year. They are nowhere near consistent enough to mount a serious challenge. I expect Donegal to beat them.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 20/07/2016 12:34:21    1886928

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They were very poor in the first half against Longford. Does Healy even know his best team?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 20/07/2016 13:50:50    1886987

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Any team with players like Colm O'Neill, Daniel Goulding, Paul Kerrigan, Mark Collijns, Brian Hurley (although injured?), Alan O'Connor etc have to be treated with utmost respect. Consistency has been their enemy but I've seen enough of them over the years to realise that they can beat any team in Ireland on their day. I see Darragh O'Sé has tipped them to beat us Saturday week. On all known form we should be beating Cork but there is no way they can be casually dismissed as some have on this thread.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 20/07/2016 14:23:28    1887018

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Replying To dstuction:  "yeah its mad no mention of them at all. I do think they could beat Donegal but I also think Donegal would give Dublin a better game.
Cork are very capable and if their midfield bosses like it did last weekend we could be screwed.

From a Cork persons perspective what do you think of your chances. The Cork team has changed a good bit since we played ye in championship so I wouldn't actually know much about ye."
Cork do have talented players, however talent alone does not win matches nowadays. This Cork team are rudderless and have been since Canty retired from County football. Aidan Walsh had the potential to grow into a fantastic footballer and maybe the leader they needed, then he decides to hurl instead, when he is not good enough for County Hurling at the top level. Bringing him into the squad now smacks of desperation as it is far too late to integrate him into the set up and be effective, especially with so much emphasis on defensive shape and systems. Cork lack in this area already, without bringing in somebody completely new to it.

I would not think that Cork can be or will be serious competitors for at least three years and that would depend on an overhaul of management and personnel working constantly, like Tyrone have over the past three years. All this being said, coming off a heartbreaking defeat like Donegal had on Sunday could level the field slightly and give Cork a fighting chance in this match as a one off. Just like Cork's defeat last year to Kildare, six days after the Munster replay defeat. I think it depends on which Donegal team turn up, rather than Cork's ability. Donegal did look like they tired towards the end of Sundays game. Perhaps utilising some of their squad, especially the young talent they have at their disposal will freshen it up for them.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 20/07/2016 14:30:04    1887030

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Any team with players like Colm O'Neill, Daniel Goulding, Paul Kerrigan, Mark Collijns, Brian Hurley (although injured?), Alan O'Connor etc have to be treated with utmost respect. Consistency has been their enemy but I've seen enough of them over the years to realise that they can beat any team in Ireland on their day. I see Darragh O'Sé has tipped them to beat us Saturday week. On all known form we should be beating Cork but there is no way they can be casually dismissed as some have on this thread."
lockjaw I am dismissing them, out of hand. They might give ye a rattle, they might beat ye. If they meet Dublin, they will get spanked.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 20/07/2016 14:31:44    1887032

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Any team with players like Colm O'Neill, Daniel Goulding, Paul Kerrigan, Mark Collijns, Brian Hurley (although injured?), Alan O'Connor etc have to be treated with utmost respect. Consistency has been their enemy but I've seen enough of them over the years to realise that they can beat any team in Ireland on their day. I see Darragh O'Sé has tipped them to beat us Saturday week. On all known form we should be beating Cork but there is no way they can be casually dismissed as some have on this thread."
I saw that. I also saw he blamed McFadden for the defeat to Tyrone, fairly random stuff.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7895 - 20/07/2016 14:44:18    1887049

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "lockjaw I am dismissing them, out of hand. They might give ye a rattle, they might beat ye. If they meet Dublin, they will get spanked."
I would agree there Liam. Cork should have beaten Kerry last year and ended up getting scalped by Kildare. Cork could feasibly beat us but then get tanked by your lads.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 20/07/2016 15:16:45    1887076

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