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RTE V SKY

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Just had a look at the line up for the next few weeks and it seems RTE have very little games on. Why are they not showing games on a Saturday anymore. Its very frustrating for someone without sky..

wd45 (Westmeath) - Posts: 211 - 18/07/2016 14:50:00    1885588

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you can get sky sports for free now if you join up

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1802 - 18/07/2016 14:56:05    1885597

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I understand the issue you are having but overall I'm delighted. The less I have to hear of them fools on RTE the better. BBC or SKY any day for me.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 18/07/2016 15:11:59    1885617

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RTE's live football programmes are awful. They are stale, jaded and lazy. The contributors don't analyse any more . The repeat the same pronouncements on a weekly basis . They are relentlessly negative. Yesterday at half time in the Ulster Final we had to wait until half time was over before we saw a clip of a score . The Sunday Game Live does not compare with SKY's presentation . The games are properly discussed and analysed . Technology is well utilised and the programme is fresh . If criticism is deserved it is given, however it never degenerates in to abuse . As for Tommy Carr yesterday, he was shocking .RTE needs to take a serious look at The Sunday Game Live and revamp it because it is nothing short of a travesty of a programme that serves football very poorly .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 18/07/2016 16:13:18    1885688

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RTE went to An Nuacht, at Half Time in the Leinster final yesterday, that sums them up, they are beyond backward.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 18/07/2016 16:28:51    1885707

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RTE's analysis ends up deteriorating into discussions about the failings of the modern game, and how they might change that with rule changes.

Analysis by SKY and even the BBC Ulster is focused on the actual match, and what teams are doing and where they are maybe going wrong.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 18/07/2016 16:50:45    1885729

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What I like about sky's coverage over rte's is the fact sky sports actually analyse the game. Spillane and Co only complain and talk about how great the game was "back in the day". Rte are lazy and it's about time competition emerged. Maybe over time rte will actuallyb ut some effort into there coverage.

pkboher (Cork) - Posts: 49 - 18/07/2016 17:08:32    1885742

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I've largely enjoyed sky's coverage, however Dermot Early as a co commentator doesn't work for me. He's not cut out for it.

boomerang (Mayo) - Posts: 49 - 18/07/2016 17:16:18    1885747

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RTE has become really poor IMO. First of all TOM Carr and Martin Carney are dreadful co-commentators. This needs to be addressed. The coverage of RTE before ulster final y day was again poor no pre match interviews, outdated stuff. Last night we had three pundits who kept agreeing with each other , kernan and dolan are poor. No mention of kildare in the mayo game analysis while westmeath were saluted for getting hammered. On top of this the ulster final teams were lambasted while galway played the exact same way in the connacht final.

Sky is miles ahead as is BBC. The tyrone thing by RTE also needs to be addressed, sean cavanagh picking up the award was embarrassing.

222 (UK) - Posts: 693 - 18/07/2016 17:20:12    1885749

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Replying To 222:  "RTE has become really poor IMO. First of all TOM Carr and Martin Carney are dreadful co-commentators. This needs to be addressed. The coverage of RTE before ulster final y day was again poor no pre match interviews, outdated stuff. Last night we had three pundits who kept agreeing with each other , kernan and dolan are poor. No mention of kildare in the mayo game analysis while westmeath were saluted for getting hammered. On top of this the ulster final teams were lambasted while galway played the exact same way in the connacht final.

Sky is miles ahead as is BBC. The tyrone thing by RTE also needs to be addressed, sean cavanagh picking up the award was embarrassing."
The RTE man of the match interviews are just cringeworthy. Some random man or woman from *insert company name here* has to stand awkwardly staring at the camera.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 18/07/2016 17:31:59    1885756

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Replying To GaryMc82:  "RTE's analysis ends up deteriorating into discussions about the failings of the modern game, and how they might change that with rule changes.

Analysis by SKY and even the BBC Ulster is focused on the actual match, and what teams are doing and where they are maybe going wrong."
BBC spent part of halftime yesterday debating whether the black card was a help or hindrance to gaelic football. And Sky described the 1st half of the Galway v Mayo game as 'magnificent' which wasn't how most on here described it or indeed anyone watching with any idea about the sport.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 18/07/2016 17:32:54    1885757

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rte very very poor in the commentary department with 2 names previously mentioned being the worst

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 18/07/2016 17:41:09    1885762

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On a wider note, I really do think that the GAA are missing out on an opportunity to raise the profile and promote the games better, especially at this time of year. This is peak games season for the GAA. Ok, the quality in terms of excitement mightn't always be great but, with the qualifiers, we have lots of high stakes, winner take all matches taking place within a short space of time. The season is reaching its highpoint. But in the absence of any meaningful TV coverage, much of it takes place seemingly under the radar. I know there is a view that keeping matches off the TV maximises attendances at games. But surely there is a lesson from other sports that maximising exposure (and hype) around matches helps to grow the games? What about making the qualifiers part of a 'Super Saturday' package for example? Keep ticket prices down and this will encourage attendances. Building the profile of the games through TV (and even internet based coverage) will grow the games in the longer run and make people want to attend matches, even when there is lots of coverage on TV.

Aoife1234 (Antrim) - Posts: 17 - 18/07/2016 17:46:27    1885764

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RTE V SKY
Just had a look at the line up for the next few weeks and it seems RTE have very little games on. Why are they not showing games on a Saturday anymore. Its very frustrating for someone without sky..
wd45 (Westmeath) - Posts:66 - 18/07/2016 14:50:00
Can you not stream games on your computer if its on Sky? Very easy to do that.


I understand the issue you are having but overall I'm delighted. The less I have to hear of them fools on RTE the better. BBC or SKY any day for me.
dstuction (Donegal) - Posts:975 - 18/07/2016 15:11:59
BBC NI are terrible in virtually all coverage of sport
RTE's live football programmes are awful. They are stale, jaded and lazy. The contributors don't analyse any more. The repeat the same pronouncements on a weekly basis. They are relentlessly negative. Yesterday at half time in the Ulster Final we had to wait until half time was over before we saw a clip of a score. The Sunday Game Live does not compare with SKY's presentation. The games are properly discussed and analysed. Technology is well utilised and the programme is fresh. If criticism is deserved it is given, however it never degenerates in to abuse. As for Tommy Carr yesterday, he was shocking. RTE needs to take a serious look at The Sunday Game Live and revamp it because it is nothing short of a travesty of a programme that serves football very poorly.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4354 - 18/07/2016 16:13:18
Sky base their presentation on well honed set ups that they use in Soccer and multiple other sports of course RTEs set up wont compare. RTE never have had to improve as they lived in a monopoly and totally controlled coverage

RTE went to An Nuacht, at Half Time in the Leinster final yesterday, that sums them up, they are beyond backward.
PK57 (Louth) - Posts:1452 - 18/07/2016 16:28:51
They have to show An Nuacht. When else would you have suggested they show it?
Many channels will go to a news break at half time in sports coverage/middle of programmes. Look at ITV at times and they break up coverage of some events for their half hour evening news at times

The RTE man of the match interviews are just cringeworthy. Some random man or woman from *insert company name here* has to stand awkwardly staring at the camera.
PK57 (Louth) - Posts:1452 - 18/07/2016 17:31:59
Its nearly the same in all sports. Just look at a lot of pro sports men/women when they get them.


On a wider note, I really do think that the GAA are missing out on an opportunity to raise the profile and promote the games better, especially at this time of year. This is peak games season for the GAA. Ok, the quality in terms of excitement mightn't always be great but, with the qualifiers, we have lots of high stakes, winner take all matches taking place within a short space of time. The season is reaching its highpoint. But in the absence of any meaningful TV coverage, much of it takes place seemingly under the radar. I know there is a view that keeping matches off the TV maximises attendances at games. But surely there is a lesson from other sports that maximising exposure (and hype) around matches helps to grow the games? What about making the qualifiers part of a 'Super Saturday' package for example? Keep ticket prices down and this will encourage attendances. Building the profile of the games through TV (and even internet based coverage) will grow the games in the longer run and make people want to attend matches, even when there is lots of coverage on TV.
Aoife1234 (Antrim) - Posts:11 - 18/07/2016 17:46:27
How would you propose to get coverage of these games?
Ticket income is so vital to GAA income. The crowds are relatively high so if you reduce the ticket prices where do you make up shortfall in income from?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/07/2016 18:48:28    1885800

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Replying To Aoife1234:  "On a wider note, I really do think that the GAA are missing out on an opportunity to raise the profile and promote the games better, especially at this time of year. This is peak games season for the GAA. Ok, the quality in terms of excitement mightn't always be great but, with the qualifiers, we have lots of high stakes, winner take all matches taking place within a short space of time. The season is reaching its highpoint. But in the absence of any meaningful TV coverage, much of it takes place seemingly under the radar. I know there is a view that keeping matches off the TV maximises attendances at games. But surely there is a lesson from other sports that maximising exposure (and hype) around matches helps to grow the games? What about making the qualifiers part of a 'Super Saturday' package for example? Keep ticket prices down and this will encourage attendances. Building the profile of the games through TV (and even internet based coverage) will grow the games in the longer run and make people want to attend matches, even when there is lots of coverage on TV."
Calm its the GAA they charged 30 euro into castlebar yesterday

222 (UK) - Posts: 693 - 18/07/2016 19:02:42    1885805

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I think TG4 deserves a mention here for its excellent coverage of the under21 / club championships with top notch pundits.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1909 - 18/07/2016 21:01:33    1885880

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Replying To dstuction:  "I understand the issue you are having but overall I'm delighted. The less I have to hear of them fools on RTE the better. BBC or SKY any day for me."
Sky coverage vastly superior, Jamsie O'Connor talks common sense and it's just better and more professional.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 138 - 18/07/2016 22:13:13    1885928

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