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Some very negative people on here saying the game is dead, bring back the good old days, its just defensive football now blah blah blah. It's like hearing 6 year olds complain not knowing why they are doing it and can't back it up with reason but because their friends are complaining as well they join in to feel part of the crowd. Here is what negative football has produced this year so fare in each province: Ulster 33.5 points per game Munster 38.2 points per game Leinster 35.6 points per game Connacht 34 points per game In the qualifiers the average per game has been 32.7 We have had shocks and upsets, hammerings and close calls, dives and handbags, big crowds and small, the usual poor and bad refs (depending if your team won) How is the game dead or dying? I just don't understand for one. DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 17/07/2016 20:49:28 1885010 Link
Good post. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 18/07/2016 12:00:44 1885402 Link
Of course football is alive. There have only ever been a few teams at any given stage capable of winning an All Ireland. Ulster and Connacht are competitive. Munster has always been a two horse race but TIpp and now Clare are making huge strides. Leinster teams need to get their house in order but that can only be done from within their own borders. We have potentially some massive games coming up over the next month. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 18/07/2016 12:06:38 1885406 Link
Replying To DoireCityFC: "Some very negative people on here saying the game is dead, bring back the good old days, its just defensive football now blah blah blah. It's like hearing 6 year olds complain not knowing why they are doing it and can't back it up with reason but because their friends are complaining as well they join in to feel part of the crowd. Here is what negative football has produced this year so fare in each province: Ulster 33.5 points per game Munster 38.2 points per game Leinster 35.6 points per game Connacht 34 points per game In the qualifiers the average per game has been 32.7 We have had shocks and upsets, hammerings and close calls, dives and handbags, big crowds and small, the usual poor and bad refs (depending if your team won) How is the game dead or dying? I just don't understand for one." ....and its about to get even better - some tasty qualifiers and great QF's coming up - cant wait. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 18/07/2016 12:07:10 1885407 Link
Replying To DoireCityFC: "Some very negative people on here saying the game is dead, bring back the good old days, its just defensive football now blah blah blah. It's like hearing 6 year olds complain not knowing why they are doing it and can't back it up with reason but because their friends are complaining as well they join in to feel part of the crowd. Here is what negative football has produced this year so fare in each province: Ulster 33.5 points per game Munster 38.2 points per game Leinster 35.6 points per game Connacht 34 points per game In the qualifiers the average per game has been 32.7 We have had shocks and upsets, hammerings and close calls, dives and handbags, big crowds and small, the usual poor and bad refs (depending if your team won) How is the game dead or dying? I just don't understand for one." Brilliant post Terrorist (Donegal) - Posts: 91 - 18/07/2016 12:09:17 1885409 Link
You fail to realise that there is more ot the game than scoring and although to scoring is fine (as was aknowledged in other threads) the build up part to the scoring is very tedious. That is what needs to be fixed. There is more to the game than watching a players pop the ball over the bar. The avergae game of football is nowhere near as good as it should be. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 18/07/2016 12:16:24 1885417 Link
Why do people assume that because there are loads of scores it must be entertaining? There is often on average close to 200 points scored in a basketball game but its still boring as hell to watch. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 18/07/2016 12:39:06 1885435 Link
Class post , the only bad thing is ,Dublin and Kerry are still here . But its not going to be the same semi finals as it was last year . Can't wait oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 18/07/2016 12:56:25 1885454 Link
Nice to see some agree and can be positive but some will never be happy not having the game played as they fondly remember it (even if those memories are jaded). Hate to say it but it's not going back so adapt or die as they say. If the people don't like it they won't watch it you'd assume but viewing figures are high both at the games and on TV. DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 18/07/2016 15:02:06 1885600 Link
Every game can be improved. I think there's not enough reward for attacking play so some teams have resorted to a dour-looking defensive game. There are higher average scores because players are fitter and faster and in some cases more skilful. The 4 minute mile and 10 second barriers were broken as athletes got fitter and faster helped by newer training methods and technology so that's partly why we have higher scores. Have we greater or lesser deficits between game winners and losers though. All out attacking football is grand but I'd rather eatch a defensive Ulster final that we got yesterday over the whuppings in Munster, Leinster and Connaught. The standard at the top has greatly increased but so has the gap to the so-called lesser counties. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 18/07/2016 15:45:37 1885656 Link
Replying To DoireCityFC: "Nice to see some agree and can be positive but some will never be happy not having the game played as they fondly remember it (even if those memories are jaded). Hate to say it but it's not going back so adapt or die as they say. If the people don't like it they won't watch it you'd assume but viewing figures are high both at the games and on TV." DCFC what I want to know is, did you stay in bed or are you still getting a drenching from those water jets?! MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 18/07/2016 16:07:01 1885679 Link
Replying To MedwayIrish: "DCFC what I want to know is, did you stay in bed or are you still getting a drenching from those water jets?!" Water jets? DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 18/07/2016 19:32:30 1885820 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Every game can be improved. I think there's not enough reward for attacking play so some teams have resorted to a dour-looking defensive game. There are higher average scores because players are fitter and faster and in some cases more skilful. The 4 minute mile and 10 second barriers were broken as athletes got fitter and faster helped by newer training methods and technology so that's partly why we have higher scores. Have we greater or lesser deficits between game winners and losers though. All out attacking football is grand but I'd rather eatch a defensive Ulster final that we got yesterday over the whuppings in Munster, Leinster and Connaught. The standard at the top has greatly increased but so has the gap to the so-called lesser counties." Good post and agree with most of it but shouldn't the fitness improve defenders at the same rate keeping scores at the same level? I think the one area we have really lost out on and it may just be coincidence is midfield. In a few years we might see another 10 greats come through and really dominate DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 18/07/2016 19:35:16 1885821 Link
Replying To DoireCityFC: "Nice to see some agree and can be positive but some will never be happy not having the game played as they fondly remember it (even if those memories are jaded). Hate to say it but it's not going back so adapt or die as they say. If the people don't like it they won't watch it you'd assume but viewing figures are high both at the games and on TV." And that is what will happen. There have never been as many people complaining about the game (people who actually love the game) and people who don't like it think it's rubbish. Of course in the GAA's world it seems to be much better to wait until their are empty stands to make a change instead of being proactive and making a change before their is a fall of in interest. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 18/07/2016 23:08:54 1885952 Link
Replying To DoireCityFC: "Water jets?" Yeah, did you manage to get to the top of the stairs? MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 19/07/2016 10:06:11 1886052 Link
Replying To MedwayIrish: "Yeah, did you manage to get to the top of the stairs?" Not a banana fan DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 19/07/2016 16:36:24 1886478 Link