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With my own county through to the AI quarter-finals, I have been looking ahead. It's mad that there is only one Round 2 game played so far. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7818 - 05/07/2016 21:56:36 1877035 Link 2 |
Yeah not every team can play two division 3 sides and get into the last 8. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 06/07/2016 07:25:00 1877101 Link 7 |
Fantastic road there for Galway or Roscommon to make a semi final. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 06/07/2016 09:39:56 1877131 Link 2 |
Oh poo, Cork got themselves knocked out of Munster. Who have Dublin ever played to win Leinster in the past decade? The system is the system, so could you Ulster boys stop convincing yourself you'd have 30 All-Ireland if only you were somewhere else because you wouldn't! TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/07/2016 09:56:34 1877142 Link 4 |
Yawn! Same old discussion. Congress is there for any motions of change. Ulster counties complaining when they are satisfied with Ulster finalists possibly being drawn in the preliminary round in the following year. The qualifiers should see Ulster having 4 quarter-finalists. Competitive games are great ahead of the All-Ireland series. I would see Ulster counties having an advantage in that regard. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7818 - 06/07/2016 10:53:50 1877183 Link 2 |
All depends on the draw, but I fancy ourselves to make a quarter final. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 06/07/2016 11:04:03 1877193 Link 0 |
You should take a read of Dara O'Se's latest Irish Times column where he discusses how having a "handy route" is a major advantage that Kerry has over Ulster teams, it may enlighten you.
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 06/07/2016 11:08:09 1877200 Link 4 |
"That's the major advantage Kerry have always had over the Ulster teams. I've often had people ask me would I not have preferred a few good, hard games early in the summer to prepare us for Croke Park. I'd sometimes nod along and agree that it was a good point they were making but in all honesty, I was usually trying very hard to keep a straight face through it all. You want the truth? We couldn't have cared less how we got to Croke Park. The handier the route, the better. The system has always been stacked against the Ulster teams but you would never find us crying too many tears for them." greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 06/07/2016 11:22:40 1877207 Link 1 |
Not sure if my other reply was posted . Hermit - who has suggested Donegal or Tyrone would have 30 All-Ireland's. Do you's need to be told you's are the greatest all the time ? Kerry would have walked through Ulstsr for the most part of our history but not anymore . Tomas O Se doubted would his side have won back to backs up north . Of course they wouldn't have as Tyrone didn't come close and Kerry couldn't beat Tyrone . Dara has often said an easier route helps . The Ulster final takes played two weeks after the Munster final - the losers are basically out as there is zero time to get prepared for like 3 games in 4 weeks . Look Hermit - Kerry are not to blame for the 100th time . Kerry would no doubt adapt to playing in a tough province but the current set up of playing D2 and D3 sides to get to the last 8 is a farce. TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 06/07/2016 11:30:39 1877215 Link 2 |
No we probably wouldn't but we would definitely feature in a lot more quarter finals/semi finals. Ask yourself honestly though, do you think it is fair that one county has to play 2 games to reach the quarter finals (regardless of the quality of the opposition) and another team will have to play 4 games minimum to get to exactly the same place. You can try to convince yourself all you want that 'it is what it is' but that does not change the fact that it is grossly unfair. Now I know that this is not Kerry's fault or anyone within Munster for that matter but the GAA has to seriously look at this issue. How can our premier competition be so flawed and uneven when more and more time, money and commitment is being pumped into the game. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 06/07/2016 11:38:30 1877221 Link 3 |
Are Westmeath in the A or B side of the draw or is it an open draw if they lose v dublin? Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 06/07/2016 11:46:35 1877228 Link 0 |
Lads stop using Kerry as the stick to beat around about this. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/07/2016 11:51:35 1877234 Link 2 |
It's rather disappointing that you won't engage in a proper discussion . Read my post again please and tell me where I have slated Kerry ? TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 06/07/2016 11:57:20 1877236 Link 4 |
How long will you persist with this straw man nonsense? No one has said it's Kerry's fault, in fact multiple users have made sure to state they they don't think that Kerry are to blame for this. Why do certain supporters find it so difficult to accept what is clear as day for everyone else. It's very strange really. greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 06/07/2016 12:02:44 1877240 Link 1 |
Jaysus hermit, the way the QFs are loaded we might not get to play ye at all this year. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 06/07/2016 12:04:10 1877242 Link 0 |
No team has to play "4 games minimum" to get to the quarter finals (with the exception, I think, of New York, unlikely as that may be to happen in the near future). It may work out that way depending on the draw, whether a team wins their province and whether there are replays etc. but it's not guaranteed. Similarly, no team is guaranteed to only have to play 2 games to reach the quarters. This also depends on the draw and historical results. I don't disagree that the draw is currently lopsided and not ideal but a bit of objectivity is required. I mean you could also make the argument that even in the "easier" provinces, the draw can be similarly as kind. For example, both Dublin and Tyrone have reached provincial finals by beating two division 2 sides (I appreciate that Dublin will face a division 3 side in the final while Tyrone will face a division 1 side). Roscommon, similarly, have reached their provincial final by beating a team who aren't in the league, a division 4 side and a division 3 side and are due to meet a division 2 side in the decider. I don't subscribe to this argument but cherry picking examples like this to suit an argument benefits no one when it comes to arguing a case for the best way forward. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 06/07/2016 12:18:51 1877249 Link 1 |
Lads every week there's a topic about the Championship and its structure on here. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/07/2016 12:24:00 1877253 Link 2 |
Big fish swimming around all right, and with the way Kerry are going at the moment I'd not be confident they'd jump the Q-final hurdle!
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/07/2016 12:25:14 1877254 Link 0 |
What division where Derry & Cavan ?
westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 06/07/2016 12:36:03 1877259 Link 0 |
Derry are division 2 Cavan have just been promoted to division 1 We will play Donegal in the final who are also divison 1 Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 06/07/2016 12:49:14 1877262 Link 2 |