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I know it's only a hypothetical scenario ,but looking at results already this year , it would have made for an extremely entertaining and unpredictable season. The other 3 provinces have already proved competitive with Ulster(4 horse race), Connacht (galway bt mayo) and munster (tipp beating cork) ,and to be honest without Dublin there you could make a case for 6/7 teams in leinster to be the next best. I also think it would leave an extremely open all-Ireland championship - probably be Kerry/mayo/tyrone but there would be a few more after that who would fancy a crack at them (cavan/galway already) Just a thought i had, but the dubs ruined it by being continuesly brilliant and the shining light of gaelic football averagejoe (Cavan) - Posts: 60 - 28/06/2016 19:36:02 1873501 Link
Averagejoe Look if Dublin were out there are only about four to five counties who would or could win Sam. Kerry for one , Tyrone Mayo( I'm beginning to wonder about them , is everything ok in the camp,if not no chance) Donegal and would give Monaghan a chance. You have to be well organised at present to win Sam. Very seldom do a team make the breakthrough first time of asking so to me Cavan and Galway and indeed Roscommon have a bit of a road to travel yet before the become serious contenders. If you go back over the last 10/15 years and look at the team's who win it -- Armagh , well drilled hard hitting physical team with fantastic players Tyrone -- Another great team with a brilliant game plan , managed by a great man with some outstanding players Kerry-- their record over the 000's says everything about them and would have won a host of All IRELANDS only for Tyrone. Again brilliant players. Dublin - no need to say anything about them , we should all know how good they are and only for Donegal would be going for 4 in a row. Donegal -2012. Had a great year and as I saw all their games never looked like they would get beat. I think they were , in 2012 one of the most confident teams I saw playing. If you did leave Dublin out I don't think that there are another team left in the championship that would match any of the above teams I mentioned who win Sam over the last 15 years. It would be interesting alright if Dublin were gone but there would be no shock winner. Takes too much preparation and development of players to win an All Ireland so only a few would do it But as it is still early days I hope to see Donegal play Dublin again( hopefully the All Ireland final) and I still think Dublin would find us a handful. SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 28/06/2016 21:00:49 1873540 Link
My word, we've been elevated to God like status now, talk of competitions without us?? How did we get here? Oh yeh, I remember, that's where I got my pseudonym :):) KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 29/06/2016 02:00:17 1873615 Link
What would be the point in winning a tournament without the best team(s) in it? Pointless in my view. You gotta best the best to become the best. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 29/06/2016 17:12:08 1873934 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "What would be the point in winning a tournament without the best team(s) in it? Pointless in my view. You gotta best the best to become the best." Spot on. Its a nonsense thread, this. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 29/06/2016 17:18:15 1873937 Link
More anti Dublin propaganda is what this is. The Dubs should win 5 in a row before the rest of the country should panic. Kerry and Kilkenny must have 40 or 50 titles by now and there is no call to exclude them. maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 29/06/2016 18:28:17 1873958 Link
Replying To maroondiesel: "More anti Dublin propaganda is what this is. The Dubs should win 5 in a row before the rest of the country should panic. Kerry and Kilkenny must have 40 or 50 titles by now and there is no call to exclude them." Kilkenny hurlers were extremely dominant between 2006-2009 but no side in football has ever been further ahead (on its own) from the rest than this current Dublin team is. That's why there is such fear in the general GAA public and why topics like this come about on HS. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 29/06/2016 19:56:07 1873993 Link
Replying To KYTitletown: "Kilkenny hurlers were extremely dominant between 2006-2009 but no side in football has ever been further ahead (on its own) from the rest than this current Dublin team is. That's why there is such fear in the general GAA public and why topics like this come about on HS." If they (Dublin) are so far ahead of the rest then why has this current Dublin team not yet managed to reach TWO All Ireland finals in a row. Where would you rate them along side Tyrone 03/05/08 or the Kerry outfit around the same time - 04/06/07/09. ??? Don't think that Dublin would overrun any of those two teams. They are miles ahead of any team in Leinster, judging last year's championship games with Mayo they are not that far ahead or indeed if you take the 2013 All Ireland Mayo gave them plenty and with better defending could have won that final. I do not know where Kerry are at at the moment On this year's Div one final and last year's AI final Dublin seem to well and truly have their measure. So to me Donegal and Tyrone will probably cause Dublin the most problems if they meet. SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 29/06/2016 21:30:13 1874029 Link
Oh for Fck sake, we got to 6 All-Ireland's in a row between 2004-2009, we won 4 of them! If Dublin ever manage something similar then you can start talking. God sake no wonder they are hammering so many counties, with this attitude the lot of ye are beat before ye even step onto the pitch against them. Dublin are having a moment in the sun like the Down's, the Galway's, the Cavan's, the Meath's, the Armagh's and Tyrone's before them. It will end soon enough. Kerry will always outlive and outlast... TheHermit (Kerry)* - Posts: 6354 - 29/06/2016 21:33:16 1874032 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Oh for Fck sake, we got to 6 All-Ireland's in a row between 2004-2009, we won 4 of them! If Dublin ever manage something similar then you can start talking. God sake no wonder they are hammering so many counties, with this attitude the lot of ye are beat before ye even step onto the pitch against them. Dublin are having a moment in the sun like the Down's, the Galway's, the Cavan's, the Meath's, the Armagh's and Tyrone's before them. It will end soon enough. Kerry will always outlive and outlast..." That's the stuff hermit boy!Never bend the knee to us Dubs!If only another one of your own tribe was so bullish! cuederocket (Dublin)* - Posts: 5084 - 29/06/2016 21:50:52 1874041 Link
I wouldn't say the all ireland as 2 or 3 teams still compete but Dublin shouldn't play in Leinster every year. They should rotate around all 4 provincials only playing in Leinster every 4. So Dublin in: Munster 2017 Connaught 2018 Ulster 2019 Leinster 2020 I guarantee you 6 or 7 Leinster counties would improve because 3/4 years they'll have significant silverware to play for. Nowadays a 10/20 point drubbing against Dublin is what you give your life up for. They've won 10/11 and i wouldn't be surprised if they win the next 10. what's the point. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 29/06/2016 22:07:23 1874051 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "That's the stuff hermit boy!Never bend the knee to us Dubs!If only another one of your own tribe was so bullish!" Ah come on Cue, that fella is no more a Kerryman than you are. Some Dub WUM I'd say TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 29/06/2016 22:09:11 1874053 Link
Replying To SamOnErrigal: "If they (Dublin) are so far ahead of the rest then why has this current Dublin team not yet managed to reach TWO All Ireland finals in a row. Where would you rate them along side Tyrone 03/05/08 or the Kerry outfit around the same time - 04/06/07/09. ??? Don't think that Dublin would overrun any of those two teams. They are miles ahead of any team in Leinster, judging last year's championship games with Mayo they are not that far ahead or indeed if you take the 2013 All Ireland Mayo gave them plenty and with better defending could have won that final. I do not know where Kerry are at at the moment On this year's Div one final and last year's AI final Dublin seem to well and truly have their measure. So to me Donegal and Tyrone will probably cause Dublin the most problems if they meet." You have missed the point entirely Sam Now if Tyrone won 3 AI's in a 6 year period then how could you say Kerry dominated Ireland in the 00's and vice-versa for Tyrone. If 4 leagues and winning every game in the league in Division 1 (Which I don't think ever happened - not in recent memory anyway) doesn't drop the penny with some people I don't know what does. As you say they well and truly have our measure, however they have everyone's measure. They flattened ye in the league semi final before they did the same to ourselves. Tyrone are an upcoming team but have only played Division 2 teams so far albeit I think they are the most likely to cause an upset. Hermit - I follow both codes in Kerry I dont recall seeing you in hurling threads so please don't insult me like that. I'd like to remind you that you were absolutely convinced that Kerry would beat Dublin in not only the league final but last years AI Final and were wrong. Of course I wish you were right but just because I'm a Kerry supporter doesn't mean I throw away my objectivity when discussing football. You do realise that saying another team is good and/or better than your team doesn't make you less of a fan KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 29/06/2016 23:06:03 1874070 Link
All this talk of Dublin being so far ahead of everyone else is for the birds.Well ahead in Leinster yes but that's as far as the gap goes.People have short memories and of course it suits a lot to start talking up Dublin and then put the boot in as soon as they loose.They are sharpening their daggers come August when all the contenders are revealed. As for the last decade ,that's resigned to the past and has no bearing on the current standings or where teams stand in relation to one another now.Dublin may win another AI or two but that's as far as it goes as we have seen happen again and again over the decades.No team goes on forever only what they have achieved .These are a special group so enjoy it while it lasts. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 30/06/2016 07:44:48 1874091 Link
What way does that song go....they build us up so they can tear us down.... Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 30/06/2016 08:33:36 1874099 Link
As a man who was born in Dublin, but moved to Galway at 15, and moved back to Dublin after twenty years away, is it not time to split Dublin either at the liffey or along county council boundaries. The amount of talent in Dublin club football is unreal, and allot is being wasted. 1 premier league club for London wouldn't work and I think the gaa needs to think long term, as the population drift to big cities like Dublin will only get more pronounced. I think this would even strengthen gaa in Dublin ad there are large areas in Dublin with little or no gaa, but with dedicated smaller county boards, that could change. galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 30/06/2016 08:47:56 1874103 Link
Replying To KYTitletown: "Kilkenny hurlers were extremely dominant between 2006-2009 but no side in football has ever been further ahead (on its own) from the rest than this current Dublin team is. That's why there is such fear in the general GAA public and why topics like this come about on HS." completely disagree- Donegal wiped the floor with them in 2014 and we will do so again down the road.. eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 30/06/2016 09:45:26 1874124 Link
If Dublin had taken even one of those goal chances they would have won in a landslide and we know what would have happened if they met Kerry in the 2014 final. The fact Donegal lost to an average Kerry side a few weeks later proved it was an aberration which won't happen again as Dublin will never be as open and vulnerable at the back as they were that day. But thanks a million for taking them out and giving us a chance at glory otherwise we'd be waiting a decade plus to win am All Ireland! KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 30/06/2016 11:06:51 1874158 Link
Replying To eunans4ever: "completely disagree- Donegal wiped the floor with them in 2014 and we will do so again down the road.." I think you may be waiting if you expect Donegal to give Dublin the same hammering again! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/06/2016 12:37:07 1874207 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "I wouldn't say the all ireland as 2 or 3 teams still compete but Dublin shouldn't play in Leinster every year. They should rotate around all 4 provincials only playing in Leinster every 4. So Dublin in: Munster 2017 Connaught 2018 Ulster 2019 Leinster 2020 I guarantee you 6 or 7 Leinster counties would improve because 3/4 years they'll have significant silverware to play for. Nowadays a 10/20 point drubbing against Dublin is what you give your life up for. They've won 10/11 and i wouldn't be surprised if they win the next 10. what's the point." Are you still trying to pedal this nonsensical idea. Maybe Dublin should play cricket or challenge for the Premier League. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 30/06/2016 14:57:45 1874296 Link