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If Waterford play the sweeper system against Tipp, it will fail again like last year. Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts: 19 - 21/06/2016 14:36:38 1870241 Link
Replying To Thurlesbluesabu: "If Waterford play the sweeper system against Tipp, it will fail again like last year." sweeper system works very well against a team with only one or two scoring forwards as they can be closed down. The problem arises against a team like Tipp who have 6 scoring forwards and players who can score 70 and 80 yards out the field so in that instance the sweeper is completely taken out of the game as all he is doing is looking up into the sky at the ball going over the bar . Both Limerick and Cork found that out recently and then Tipp become the sweepers as they have 6 against 5 at the back so Paudie and the boys can mop up loose ball all day. Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts: 19 - 21/06/2016 14:48:51 1870252 Link
A sweeper in hurling am I reading this right ? Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 15:00:35 1870263 Link
A sweeper in hurling makes me want to puke. Up Tipp I say the team who plays it the right way. I loved the Waterford team of the 00's but this sweeper puke has me gone off this team. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/06/2016 15:23:25 1870283 Link
Replying To Thurlesbluesabu: "If Waterford play the sweeper system against Tipp, it will fail again like last year." This Waterford team are at least 20% better this year , their system has been refined yes they hunt in packs retreat to their own half but they are no one trick pony , if Tipp turn up expecting to play the Waterford of last years I think they will be mightily surprised . I raised the question on a previous topic , the sweeper suits Waterford it does not suit every team . Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/06/2016 15:31:32 1870294 Link
I suppose it's inevitable that it would happen in hurling when it's happening in football. Dublin do it as much in football if not more than most teams now. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 21/06/2016 15:32:43 1870295 Link
Tipp who have 6 scoring forwards and players who can score 70 and 80 yards out the field so in that instance the sweeper is completely taken out of the game as all he is doing is looking up into the sky at the ball going over the bar . Both Limerick and Cork found that out recently and then Tipp become the sweepers as they have 6 against 5 at the back so Paudie and the boys can mop up loose ball all day. Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts:7 - 21/06/2016 14:48:51 1 catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 21/06/2016 15:36:16 1870299 Link
Tipp who have 6 scoring forwards and players who can score 70 and 80 yards out the field so in that instance the sweeper is completely taken out of the game as all he is doing is looking up into the sky at the ball going over the bar . Both Limerick and Cork found that out recently and then Tipp become the sweepers as they have 6 against 5 at the back so Paudie and the boys can mop up loose ball all day. Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts:7 - 21/06/2016 14:48:51 1 Mind you ,I think only two of those forwards did much scoring in the first half On Sunday and you'll be short a third starter. Waterford will be too strong on this occasion I think and could go all the way this year. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 21/06/2016 15:38:52 1870302 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "I suppose it's inevitable that it would happen in hurling when it's happening in football. Dublin do it as much in football if not more than most teams now." Correct and we have you guys to thank us for showing us the error of our ways , all out attack who were we kidding Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/06/2016 16:00:42 1870319 Link
Replying To Thurlesbluesabu: "If Waterford play the sweeper system against Tipp, it will fail again like last year." Noel McGrath and John McGrath scored 5 points between them in the second half it is a game of two halves in atrocious conditions Bubbles is a loss but not a big loss with what we have on the bench and Waterford have no forwards that is why they rely on the sweeper system so cant see a Waterford win Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts: 19 - 21/06/2016 16:16:21 1870331 Link
also I think Waterford struggled against a very poor Clare team the last day out cant see Maurice Shanahan getting inside the Tipp backs and they don't seem to have anyone else up front Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts: 19 - 21/06/2016 16:27:28 1870339 Link
Replying To Thurlesbluesabu: "Noel McGrath and John McGrath scored 5 points between them in the second half it is a game of two halves in atrocious conditions Bubbles is a loss but not a big loss with what we have on the bench and Waterford have no forwards that is why they rely on the sweeper system so cant see a Waterford win" Thurles your setting yourself up for a fall as usual, its a bit early in the summer for the confidence to be brimming so fully and answering your own question on the OP smacks of the old starting a fight in an empty room. Anyway to say waterford have no forwards is daft, Gleeson and Shanahan would grace most teams and the manner in which they beat Clare who looked the business in the league would have tipp worried even if you wouldn't admit it. duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 21/06/2016 16:28:34 1870341 Link
Replying To duckula20: "Thurles your setting yourself up for a fall as usual, its a bit early in the summer for the confidence to be brimming so fully and answering your own question on the OP smacks of the old starting a fight in an empty room. Anyway to say waterford have no forwards is daft, Gleeson and Shanahan would grace most teams and the manner in which they beat Clare who looked the business in the league would have tipp worried even if you wouldn't admit it." firstly Antrim Gleeson is not a forward and secondly Shanahan would not make the tipp panel in my view Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts: 19 - 21/06/2016 16:31:32 1870342 Link
Replying To duckula20: "Thurles your setting yourself up for a fall as usual, its a bit early in the summer for the confidence to be brimming so fully and answering your own question on the OP smacks of the old starting a fight in an empty room. Anyway to say waterford have no forwards is daft, Gleeson and Shanahan would grace most teams and the manner in which they beat Clare who looked the business in the league would have tipp worried even if you wouldn't admit it." this is championship hurling Duackula not winter league hurling! Thurlesbluesabu (Tipperary) - Posts: 19 - 21/06/2016 16:33:21 1870344 Link
Lastly Thurles, I think you'll find Gleeson has played everywhere between the two 40's this year, Waterford beat Clare in the championship which I would suggest is more impressive than Tipps victories thus far as Clare had a modicum of form going into that game whereas Tipp's opponents weren't in the best of knick. Anyway should we just fast forward to your usual proclamation that you'll disappear if Tipp get turned over. They are a good team and I'd quite like to see them win Liam after some mighty close calls over the years but they are no better than Clare, Waterford and Kilkenny in my opinion and to say otherwise smacks of delusion. duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 21/06/2016 16:47:52 1870350 Link
No team playing a sweeper will ever win the all Ireland. I think the sweeper in hurling is on its last legs and if Tipp beat Waterford I think that will be the end of the sweeper. I would prefer to see KK keep winning all Ireland's than seen a team playing a sweeper win it and this is coming from a Tipp man. therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 21/06/2016 17:57:47 1870395 Link
How can the most attacking team in Gaelic football do it more than any other team? Think what you post before posting man. I was at our league with you's this year and for you to say that after what you's did that night is laughable. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/06/2016 20:21:51 1870450 Link