Is there a bit of trouble about a tweet critical of the manger over the weekend? One of the Mahers drawn into it?

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 11/05/2016 13:28:13    1854005

sounds like a bit of recklessness from Maher's club. himself and Paddy Stapleton have distanced themselves from the comments but you have to wonder what's happening in general with that one. perhaps someone from Tipp knows more

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 11/05/2016 13:38:39    1854016

Looked to me like a disgruntled clubman venting his anger at the unavailability of Tipp's senior county hurlers to his own club - this case being Borrisleigh.Storm in a teacup i'd say.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/05/2016 13:48:15    1854024

If you ask me this is being done by county managers every where. The club scene and club hurlers are getting a raw deal every yr. Training all yr to play 3 games in 2 wks then off for a number of months then back at it in the winter and play every wkend until you get knocked out. No consideration for clubs that get injuries or lads away. The county hurling is running the club scene. The inter county championship needs to be condensed. Play the first round on the first wkend of July and games every 2 wks after that. Some teams which lose may have to play on consecutive wkends but tough. Play leinster/munster championship on either sat/sun on the wkends the fixtures are on. Finish the league 2 wk earlier. By doing this counties would have all of April and may and maybe 2wk in June to play club games. The championships would nearly be all over by that stage.

gimp2 (Galway) - Posts: 70 - 11/05/2016 13:53:40    1854028

Great post Gimp.

This stuff is winding me up at this stage. We have an absolute rubbish intercounty hurling championship and the whole thing is holding up the only good hurling that is available to be watched (club level). No games will be played in Cork involving the clubs on intercounty players until our precious, wrapped in cotton wool, darlings (who have lost nearly all their games anyway) are out of the championship. This tweet from the Tipp man could have been from any club in Cork (replace the names of the people/places).

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 11/05/2016 21:27:33    1854223

Yeah, it's not a problem within the Tipperary inter-county camp.

But it's definitely a disgruntled clubman venting cos Borris had to play Roscrea without Maher and Stapleton in a game they needed to get a result in to progress. Roscrea have no county men at the minute so it was no skin off their noses. Maher and Stapleton picked up knocks at Tipp training before the Borris match.

How would people feel about the club championship being ran off without county players over the summer if county is still involved in all Ireland championship?

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 14/05/2016 18:25:56    1854926

id rather see the players calling the inter county managers bluff and line out for their clubs instead of issuing an ultimatum.
After all theyre always saying the club is more important, why not prove it?

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 14/05/2016 19:06:42    1854940

If you ask me this is being done by county managers every where. The club scene and club hurlers are getting a raw deal every yr. Training all yr to play 3 games in 2 wks then off for a number of months then back at it in the winter and play every wkend until you get knocked out. No consideration for clubs that get injuries or lads away. The county hurling is running the club scene. The inter county championship needs to be condensed. Play the first round on the first wkend of July and games every 2 wks after that. Some teams which lose may have to play on consecutive wkends but tough. Play leinster/munster championship on either sat/sun on the wkends the fixtures are on. Finish the league 2 wk earlier. By doing this counties would have all of April and may and maybe 2wk in June to play club games. The championships would nearly be all over by that stage.
gimp2 (Galway) - Posts:25 - 11/05/2016 13:53:40 Yes its done by county managers everywhere but how do you change things?
Where is there action from clubs and club players to protest at how theyre treated? Why would you want a change so that club championship would be played and nearly finished in 3 months?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/05/2016 20:22:16    1854964

Killarney.87

Don't agree with playing club championship without county players but Tipp should streamline the county championship and then have a decent, well run all county league for club players only, in both codes, running throughout the summer.

The issue is that the club championship is too long and convoluted to fit around the intercounty season or to allow a proper league- as opposed to the Challenge Cup.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 15/05/2016 13:18:39    1855037

My post from the other night somehow did not make it on here.
Dublin hammered Tipp last Thursday in a challenge game. Two weeks previous an U21 / intermediate selection beat them.
Kilkenny refused to play Tipp in a challenge game as Cody thought his players wud get more of a better intense game with A v B.
I know I posted some stuff here Sunday evening about the state of the panel and training not too sure why Mods didn't allow it up.
Also just on a side note I'm hearing seamus kennedy will start wing back. This lad was on football team last year,opted for hurling this year. Has no league mins under his belt and been thrown in deep end just shows how clueless Tipp are this year. We'll b a laughing stock after the Cork game.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 17/05/2016 18:51:43    1855781

Wildpundit,are you saying the Tipp U21/Intermediate selection beat Tipps seniors?I didnt realise the U21s were that good!
How do you know Cody thought hed getter a better game inhouse than playing Tipp in a challenge.
Interesting to see if this S Kennedy lad starts as you say as that would be a big surprise.
That is one very negative post on your counties chances.Fair enough,you live down there and hear the gossip,but ive a lot of family down there and while not overly confident of Tipps chances this year,there not as dismissive as you.I fancy Tipp to beat Cork.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 17/05/2016 19:56:32    1855801

Wildpundit,
You don't paint a pretty picture but I doubt if Tipp are that far off the mark.
I think the sight of that red jersey will see a different side to what you portray.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 17/05/2016 20:02:07    1855805

Cuederocket yes a Tipp U21 / Intermediate selection bate the Seniors Saturday 2 weeks ago in Dr.Morris.
Word has it Tipp were looking for a challenge but there was no one really to play apart from Kilkenny as Clare and Waterford were preparing for a league final , they couldn't play Cork / Limerick as were on the same side of Munster draw. Galway were not in a position to play so they approached Kilkenny. Cody however refused the game which is fair enough he has his reasons and quite entitled to rebuff any distractions he thinks will have an affect on his team. Everyone knows Tipp and KK don't do challenge games at Senior. The U21s and minor teams usually play twice a year as I have gone to some of these games in the past.
Yesterday I hear Cathal Barrett wont be playing due to some kind personal reasons whether that rumour is true or not I am not sure but I can only write that I heard. Been honest lads there has been quite a few rumours doing the mill since the Clare game all is not rosy in the camp as it seems from the outside.
Cork on the flip side have been quite since the Galway game and if Tipp don't turn up they will be beaten. Tipp / Cork games the form goes out the window and it wouldn't surprise me if Cork got the measure of us in Thurles on Sunday.
I can only assume Seamus Kennedy is starting wing back to contain Lehane as his a big fellow , well able to catch a ball and physically not lacking.
Lehane has taken P.Maher to the cleaners in the past so I doubt they will put him on Lehane and id expect R.Maher to be centre back.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 18/05/2016 12:06:45    1855947

Yes id agree that Tipp v Cork games are normally 50/50.In saying that,Tipp have been quite dominant in their recent games : think Tipp have won 7/8 of their last championship meetings(something like that).

I expect a big performance from Cork.Lehane is one of my favourite hurlers - when in full flight he is a joy to watch.If S Kennedy starts on him as you predict i presume he has the pace to match Lehane because if he doesn't what would be the point?

Harnedy,Cooper,Cadogan,Walsh and Horgan will test the Tipp backline and i'd be disappointed if C Barret misses out as i think hes one of the best corner backs in the game.

It will be interesting to see if Corks backline has improved and will they be able to cope with the likes of Callinan,Bubbles,Forde,the McGrath brothers and Bonnar Maher.Tipp will fancy scoring goals against this Cork defense and i expect them to score a minimum of two.

Really looking forward to this game.If you can't look forward to a meeting of Munsters traditional big two maybe hurling is not for you.Maybe we wont get the huge crowds of previous years but i feel those that travel will be treated to a bit of a humdinger.Tipp's greater goal threat and higher skill levels throughout the team to eventually carry the day and send the home supporters away with a spring in their step.Cork bet and the hay saved - Tipp by 5+.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 18/05/2016 12:40:13    1855959

Cuederocket you may think Im a negative aul biddy now but Tipps forward haven't been great this year. Even in the league we showed no threat and shooting 18 wides against Clare was criminal given they went on to beat Kilkenny and win the league after that just shows you must take your chances on the day. We had Clare bate that day in Ennis and were just waiting for the final whistle to blow and Clare hit us for 1-02 without reply. Given that we still had 3 chances to win the game to Clare's none in that period.
On our forward line:
The only genuine Tipp forward at the moment is John McGrath.
Niall O'Meara needs to step up the plate and after that I am not sure Dan McCormack who played during the league has what it takes to make it at Intercounty level.
Should Cork get a run on us Sunday I cant see us pegging it back unless something unbelievable happens to Tipp as we don't normally do comebacks.
Other Tipp lads may have different views but I can tell you a lot of the county are fearful we could lose on Sunday. I don't like been negative but Tipp have severely underachieved since 2010. Another 3 All-Irelands should have been in the bag but each and every time they find someway of losing a great opportunity to win.
I feel the same is about to happen this year. Were like the England of the World Cup / Euros.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 18/05/2016 15:04:22    1856054

Wildpundit,im hearing from my sources that there will be a change in the goalkeeping position.I rate Gleeson so that would be another blow.
If C Barret is out that is a massive loss as i think hes one of the best corner backs in the game.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 19/05/2016 10:36:49    1856270

I think they will do well to get 20,000 at the game, Cork's morale is on the floor and whilst Tipp are not the finished article they should be far too good for Cork.
I'll be there OK but I live in Tipp and it's just a handy journey for me, to be honest if I had to travel from Cork, I'm not sure I'd bother and I have been a faithful fan of Cork hurling for nigh on 60 years.
Sunday will be the first time I'll attend a Cork/Tipp game where I'd go away happy if we run them close. There is a bit of hope emerging at under age level but it will take years for it to come through, I'm sad to say I can't see any end to the Cork famine any time soon.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 19/05/2016 11:02:28    1856282

This is a huge test for Tipp considering what has gone on. There's a good chance whatever goalie we select will have no intercounty experience. Huge mistake not to alternate keepers in the league and now there is the prospect Gleeson might be gone from the panel. We have the likes of Bergin and Callinan with little or no league playing time either. Bookies are well wide of the mark with their odds I think

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 19/05/2016 15:41:16    1856440

Tiobraid,i think it's correct that Tipp are favourites.Tipp may have some problems but Cork have not been setting the world alight.
Tipp's recent dominance over Cork(7/8 chanpionship wins) and even their recent hammering of Cork in the league a few weeks back must all be taken into account.

I fully expect a trojan Cork performance and i've no doubt Cork can win this game.There will be 15 accomplished Cork hurlers on the field on Sunday,with a sprinkling of stardust.We saw how good they can be when they snatched a loss from the jaws of victory in a very impressive performance v Kilkenny in the league.If they can replicate that kind of form they will have a great chance of toppling Tipp,but when the Semple dust has settled i expect Tipp to be marching on to face Limerick.

Less question marks about Tipp's defence and more proven over the last six years.Michael Ryan was a teak,tough hurler for Tipp.He wont want to lose to the old enemy on his first championship outing.Cork love Thurles but it is still home for Tipperary.Tipp by 5.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 19/05/2016 16:29:21    1856477

Yes, I'd have to agree with all your points. I think our full backline in particular is top class and think we only let in one goal in the chsip last year and we wouldnt be called a defensive team.
Funnily enough i'm worried about the Cork forwards than I would be of any other team in Munster.
First round of the cship i'd always be wary of too.
I think we might just shade it but I won't be betting on it! Won't enjoy the drive home if we loose. Should be an entertaining game for the neutral!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 19/05/2016 16:51:07    1856491