Firstly as an ecstatic Dublin supporter, I have to congratulate the lads. However are this current kerry team whilst very good actually not the outstanding team that a fair element of the media had made them out to be or is it a case that this Dublin team doesn't get the credit it deserves. I read numerous articles stating that Kerry had a multitude of options, unbeatable midfield and the best forward line in the country by a distance notwithstanding a tactical genius of a manager. They were the current champions but they didn't beat the Dubs last year, were fierce lucky in the semi against mayo and got home in the final. I am not knocking kerry but just seems they might of been over-hyped whereas Dublin with their 3 sams, 5 leinsters and 3 NFL in 5 years not getting the credit is deserves.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 22/09/2015 11:54:31    1790606

We have been down this road in hurling before where the second best team beats the best team. In 2004 Cork went ahead on the roll of honour in hurling, holding Kilkenny to 0-9. They went on to back to back all-Ireland's and it looked like they were superior to Kilkenny in every way.

10 years on, there is only one master.

Kerry have 37 titles and have been in 11 of the last 16 final years, winning 6 & losing 5. It is how they react to this defeat that will determine if they are over-rated or not. My thinking is that Kerry will be in next year's final, again.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 22/09/2015 12:02:16    1790613

I wouldn't say over-hyped, but with hindsight I'd say we showed them far too much respect in the semi final.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/09/2015 12:16:58    1790627

Dont think theyll be in the final, dont they have to meet dubs in semi next year? If Cork dont get there first!!

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 22/09/2015 12:24:15    1790637

Kerry were definitely overhyped by a lot of people.

There were clear deficiencies in their defence all year and again they showed on Sunday, their bench was totally overhyped as well.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 22/09/2015 12:28:50    1790638

Don't think the Kerry lads need this now, they have only just lost their AllIreland crown , 2 allireland finals in 2 years.
Last March 2014 they were written off also, we know how that year ended up. Kerry are winners and will come back stronger next year with the ultimate aim of beating Dublin.
We will need to be on our guard,

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/09/2015 12:54:41    1790657

I have to watch how I say this as I will be accused of putting the boot in Kerry again
Now I work here with a Kerry man and over the last few weeks all he could talk about were the great Kerry forward line --- how Dublin were no good and about the great mid field Kerry had.
Now let's be fair about it any team can have an off day and maybe Kerry did Sunday. Or as could be the case Dublin might be ( and probably are) a long way in front of Kerry. Don't forget they have failed in their last three meetings with Dublin.
Yesterday the excuse from my Kerry friend was --- the wet ball , Kerry are no good on a wet day.
Getting back to the Kerry forward line they scored 0-9 last Sunday same number of points they got in last year's All Ireland and looking at the score board at half time in both finals Kerry scored 1-6 in 70 odd minutes. That don't suggest they have a brilliant forward line or else the were meeting great defences.
I put it down to the media /TV that hype Kerry ( done the same to Dublin over the years) and taking the Sunday game boys and all this talk about how Kerry go about their business---- Kerry don't do this , Kerry do that and all this jazz
To be truthful Kerry played as bad as any county did on Sunday and the management made as bad as calls as any manager did on All Ireland final day.
The big thing about Kerry and this is going on for years they only have Cork to beat and they are in the last 8 and if beaten by Cork that are in the last 12
Clare must have been the last Munster county outside of Cork to beat Kerry in the Munster championship and that's 23 years ago.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 22/09/2015 13:01:36    1790664

Quit the guff.
Our full forward line contains 3 previous footballers of the year. Name me any other full forward line in the history of the GAA that can boast this. Everyone is entitled to an off day.
Congratulations Dublin. Ye were too good for us. We'll see you next year.

thykingdomcome1 (Kerry) - Posts: 78 - 22/09/2015 13:28:16    1790680

Kerry are not over hyped as they crushed kildare in the quarter finals. They beat tyrone, doing what they had to do, and saw off cork very well in a replay. Would kerry have to play mayo or donegal as well to prove that they are a brilliant 2nd best team in the country, or just accept that they were the 2nd best this year on the merit of who and how they beat along the way?

I hear the same thing every year over and over like a scratched record. Mayo are a team of bottlers. That dublin team will get beaten, they dont like it when it is put up to them. Kerry have noone to beat along the way to the finals. Blah blah blah. Then when the dubs win the all ireland, the same sage who comes out with same statement is nowhere to be heard. Mayo were a very dogged team this year. Kerry beat the very best teams in the country to get to the final. The field are a good bit off these 3 sides. So are kerry hyped? compared to most teams in the country, they would wipe the floor with them, but up against dublin, they are a bit short. Not as short as the field though.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 22/09/2015 13:38:14    1790694

There's a little bit of grave dancing going on here over the past few days. Dublin were undoubtedly the better side on Sunday and are probably a little bit ahead of Kerry going on the recent championship meetings between the two sides. However, even allowing for Dublin's dominance on the day, Kerry were still only the kick of a ball away from snatching a draw, albeit that it would have been undeserved. Let's not forget that all of the Kerry-Dublin matches have been close affairs over the past 4-5 seasons, and that Kerry have just won back-to-back minor titles. I certainly wouldn't write them off.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 22/09/2015 14:19:35    1790734

Definitely over rated and have being for 15 years. At the end of the day they could not beat the "A" teams - Tyrone in the 00's and Dublin in the 10's.
They got their AI titles beating the Mayo's and Corks of this world. A good team but Tyrone and Dublin are the great teams since 2000. I put them in 3rd place.

Redslayer (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 22/09/2015 14:35:45    1790752

Kerry struggled with the weather in the final much more than Dublin did. They didn't do themselves justice. Dont be at all surprised if Kerry beat Dublin in the semi next year.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 22/09/2015 14:43:05    1790759

Redslayer
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Definitely over rated and have being for 15 years. At the end of the day they could not beat the "A" teams - Tyrone in the 00's and Dublin in the 10's.
They got their AI titles beating the Mayo's and Corks of this world. A good team but Tyrone and Dublin are the great teams since 2000. I put them in 3rd place.

Don't forget the Down team of the 60's while you're at it

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 22/09/2015 15:49:50    1790809

Don't forget the Dublin team of 76 & 77.

thykingdomcome1 (Kerry) - Posts: 78 - 22/09/2015 16:48:43    1790872

Definitely over rated and have being for 15 years. At the end of the day they could not beat the "A" teams - Tyrone in the 00's and Dublin in the 10's.
But despite being useless, still won as many All Irelands as the other 2 put together.

thykingdomcome1 (Kerry) - Posts: 78 - 22/09/2015 16:50:35    1790878

Redslayer don't mention Tryone on a Kerry thread...blood vessels will be burst

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 22/09/2015 16:52:01    1790879

Red slayer

Definitely over rated and have being for 15 years. At the end of the day they could not beat the "A" teams - Tyrone in the 00's and Dublin in the 10's.

Yes only 11 final in those 15 years..to get to those finals do you realise that teams like Tyrone and Dublin have failed to do so every year after they have won.

Ok only 11 finals i guess we will wont make the "A" grade as you have mentioned lol..

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 22/09/2015 17:02:20    1790889

I would not say Kerry are over-rated up until now. I acknowledge despite some big defeats the past 15 years has been a good era where they competed against great teams and more than held their own. I believe though that they may be slipping into an 86-97 era again. Donegal really caught Dublin last year.... Kerry would not have beaten the Dubs imo anymore than they could have this year. Kerrys big players apart from JOD have huge miles on the clock and the rest are average county players no better than what 3 or 4 other teams have. It is going to take a huge ask for Kerry to beat Dublin in the next 3 years and as Tyrone proved this year average teams can more than compete with them. Kerry will always be around Croke Park but they dont have the players the great teams of the past have. Success at minor level will take time to transfer to the senior set up.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 22/09/2015 17:30:22    1790911

I stand by the facts - they speak for themselves. Kerry have failed to beat the big 2 on 6-7 occasions in those 2 periods. That is not the form of a great side. My guess is the heart of this Kerry team will begin to retire and a rebuilding period will begin. It's difficult to see who can compete with Dublin over the next 4-5 years - a demoralised Mayo?, an unproven Tyrone?, a new Kerry. We could be entering a total blue period - hopefully not but they seem to have it all at the moment - finance, a conveyor belt of talent, support, etc.

Redslayer (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 22/09/2015 18:27:06    1790949

They're a very good side, the second best in the country in my opinion - and the best in 2014. Wouldn't write them off because of one bad display.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 22/09/2015 18:42:59    1790958