How do Kerry keep getting key refereeing decisions go in their favour? I haven't seen any other county benefit so much from the referee.

rub_of_d_green (Limerick) - Posts: 28 - 23/08/2015 17:47:03    1774691

Some of it goes back to the 70's games between Kerry and Dublin. These were held up to be the "standard", for better or worse. A bit like the Manchester Utd thing in the Premier league. Man Utd are the glamour team and got the decisions. Also a lot of Kerry men are pundits on TV and Media. Pat Spillane etc. They all sing from the same "hymn sheet" regarding Kerry. And will attack opposing teams if Kerry are losing their grip.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 23/08/2015 18:01:31    1774713

Little OTT regarding Deegan I feel

He gave Kerry a black card, rewarded them a peno

The 45 in the first halk wasnt his call - he trusted his umpire

Gooch should have got a yellow - double fist in the face when he knew he wasnt going to win the ball

After that maybe what - two 50/50 calls...

All of this is music to Kerry's ears...

It was a great win for them

A hard fought win with loads to improve on...

Ideal prep for the final

Congrtas to them

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 23/08/2015 18:11:07    1774725

Galwayford spoken like a true Liverpool fan Kerry get the decisions because they sift through the refs garbage to get the goods

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 23/08/2015 18:13:28    1774726

There would be a lot of people out there that would say the first incident wasn't a penalty & the second one was.....go figure.

dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 267 - 23/08/2015 18:14:38    1774727

WHat does Shane enright have to do to get sent off in a big game. The guy should play Euro millions. At the same time, Tyrone left it behind as they didn't take their chances. Should have had a second penalty and James o donoghue sshould have been booked for diving in the lead up to Kerry's tenth point. Kerry are like the KK hurlers or the all blacks but doesn't take away from the fact that Tyrone had it in their hands.

galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 23/08/2015 18:16:39    1774731

In 2015 so far:

That "penalty" when Cork were pushing on in the Munster final drawn match.
Sheehan and O'Mahony not getting black cards in first half of replay.
45 given today which lead to a score that clearly came off no Tyrone player.
Black card today for a yellow card offence for Tyrone.
One minute later, blatant black card not given for a Kerry foul (Enright).
Tyrone penalty that was awarded - black card.
Tyrone penalty that was not awarded - black card and a penalty.
Between the 45th and 60th minute (ie the business end of the match) a number of the above decisions happened and also a clear touching of the ball on the ground by a Kerry player on his own 21 yard line.

Not to mention last year's Semi Final almost-supernatural refereeing performance by Reilly in the replay.

BatigolStatue (Mayo) - Posts: 211 - 23/08/2015 18:18:58    1774735

This has been happening since Dubs beat Kerry in 2011. Referees seem to be afraid to be upset the Kerry players,media.

Stato32 (Clare) - Posts: 73 - 23/08/2015 18:21:58    1774736

Nobody is disputing Kerry are a good team with talented players and good sponsors the Kerry group. That said how could Kerry players be allowed to stand 8 yards in front of Morgan, and McCurry when taking frees. With their hands raised. That is against the rules and also poor sportsmanship. Poor wides cost Tyrone but the gamesmanship of the Kerry lads was "breathtaking" at times.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 23/08/2015 18:26:40    1774742

Poor from Deegan today.

As a ref I have a lot of time for him but he got three big decisions completely wrong today.

There will be those clamouring for an end to the black card but it is not the card that is at fault but the officials in charge.

The rules around the black card are not difficult, I don't see where the difficulty is.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 23/08/2015 18:29:58    1774744

sour grapes and jealousy

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 23/08/2015 18:34:01    1774745

kerryluck
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1774745
sour grapes and jealousy

Jealousy I will admit to, I would love Donegal to be the benificiary of dodgy decisions week in week out.

Sour grapes? never.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 23/08/2015 19:06:04    1774772

I'm no Kerry fan, but I find a lot of the comments re refs very blinkered. Firstly, refs can't be blamed on highly marginal calls that "experts" can only decide on with the benefit of replay footage.

The second penalty incident is a case in point. As is the 45 that might or might not have been.

People point out that S Enright should have got a black card, rightfully so. But against that, M O'Se only got one because of the exaggerated dive of the Tyrone defender. So what goes around comes around - the reason Kerry won was because they scored 0-4 when it had to be done.

Incidentally, the late challenge on Gooch should have been a red. And the image that I found most disgusting was that of a Tyrone back barging into J O'Donoghue, gloating, after P Harte scored the penalty...at the other end of the field!

As s neutral, I couldn't shout for Tyrone, the goading, sledging etc seems to be endemic. Every team has their moments, Tyrone seem to be at a worse level though. Pity.

1914 (Clare) - Posts: 92 - 23/08/2015 19:07:24    1774773

Kerry got the benefit of a poor reffing display today, Tyrone should have had a second penalty without a doubt.
However I thought Kerry had the better footballers and deserved to go through to another final.
They are beatable though.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 23/08/2015 19:27:20    1774784

very poor tackle at the end on Gooch. Should have been red card no doubt. But also poor of Kerry lads to stand in front of free taker. Vital scores missed at vital stage. O Donoughue, a good player and nice enough fellow, goes down a bit too easily in my view. Tiernan McCann had a stinker and should have been taken off by Harte. Finally Kerry keeper played really well.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 23/08/2015 19:31:39    1774788

1914 Marc O'Ses black card was a text book example of the black card. The only difference between it and cavanaghs pull on McManus in 2013 was the location it took place on the pitch.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 23/08/2015 19:35:21    1774790

I do not get the complaints that the ref favoured Kerry. I'm sure Kerry supporters felt that O Sheas black owed much to an exaggerated dive by the forward. The tackle on Cooper by the fullback could have earned a red card and Tyrones penalty was a rather dubious one. All in all the decisions balanced themselves out and the ref did not favour either side.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 23/08/2015 19:43:03    1774794

Maurice Deegan was unfairly highlighted by Joe Brolly. Joe is consistent - consistent in his bias in favour of Ulster teams. He did not acknowledge that Kerry were the better team.

Tyrone got a very suspect penalty. The centre-back ran out of ground and then fell to the ground. The second co-called penalty incident was correctly adjudged.

Shane Enright should have got a black card. The Tyrone no 5 should have gpt a straight red card for the late tackle on Colm Cooper. Joe McMahon should have been carded for the lifting of Cooper off the ground when clearly injured.

Brolly was over doing the missed goal chances by Tyrone. Part of the game is the ability to take goal chances. Tyrone did not exhibit enough skills to avail of the chances presented. If those chances were presented in the heydays of Tyrone football the likes of Peter Canavan or Stephen O'Neill would have made the correct decisions and the outcome would be different as it was back then.

tasman (Roscommon) - Posts: 23 - 23/08/2015 20:06:31    1774807

Neverright you are so aptly named.

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 23/08/2015 20:07:29    1774809

People are calling the penalty soft but we're there not 2 Kerry fellas tackling Tierney from behind and neither of them touched the ball? Or am I wrong there?

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 23/08/2015 20:55:16    1774843