Seen it in the news this morning.

Worrying to hear, with fitness levels reaching ridiculous levels and modern day footballers essentially muscle bound athletes with skill being substituted for brawn and conditioning could it be the tip of the iceberg in the modern game!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 10/05/2015 09:15:40    1721906

Is it a current Monaghan player who is under investigation? The article on hogan stand said he had been a panel member in the past. I would be surprised if many players would take steroids or am I just totally out of touch.

JimTheLegend (Donegal) - Posts: 247 - 10/05/2015 09:33:21    1721912

Only inter county players are tested so I don't get that he doesn't play anymore? Is he not playing anymore cause he was caught? Not surprised it's rampant in all sports all over the world why should we be any different?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/05/2015 09:46:44    1721916

Clondalkin the article states that he was a fringe player and not on the panel anymore ie he was on a trial panel and didnt make the final panel.

Before people start jumping to conclusions, I think they should wait until the steroids have been shown to be used for performance enhancement.

There are many explanations for testing positive for steroids, as shown with Aidan O' Mahoney in 2008, many people are given steroids if they have a bad infection.

pooper_trooper (Monaghan) - Posts: 108 - 10/05/2015 10:21:09    1721922

Could have failed for any number of reasons tbh, wouldn't read too much into a failed test which you could fail for any number of over the counter cures.

That being said, if all intercounty players were tested right now - I think the results would shock.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 10/05/2015 10:38:28    1721924

My point is only inter county players are tested club players are not he's obviously on the panel wether fringe or not, like if he's on a B panel I'd be very surprised they test him. Hopefully he's innocent

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/05/2015 10:55:47    1721930

why was he tested if he's not even on the panel?

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 562 - 10/05/2015 11:21:56    1721939

I wonder when the test was, as the reports seem fairly specific that its not a regular. Do they test after McKenna Cup games I wonder?

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 10/05/2015 11:32:06    1721943

achara
County: Monaghan
Posts: 212

1721939
why was he tested if he's not even on the panel?

That's the point - he must be on the panel or at least must have been at the time the test was done.
But agree with previous poster - if all county footballers were tested for steroids right now, I'd guess that 5-10% would fail.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 10/05/2015 11:39:23    1721949

Tut, tut, tut ....

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 10/05/2015 11:43:30    1721952

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/shock-as-monaghan-footballer-in-failed-drugs-test-31209889.html

They were discussing this briefly on Today FM this morning between the sportsnews guy and Neil Delamere. Yer man used to be on the fringes of the Monaghan squad. He says if he took a banned substance he didn't know it was banned. I hope that is the case and that people don't jump to conclusions without hearing the facts first.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 10/05/2015 12:12:00    1721959

This should be taken very seriously imo.

The GAA shouldn't bury its head in the sand like cycling and athletics did for years and rugby is doing now.

If there's an issue it must be dealt with immediately and severely.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 10/05/2015 12:44:21    1721973

Blood tests should be carried out on every county players at random times, from what I hear this isn't an isolated incident.

kerryrowz (Kerry) - Posts: 833 - 10/05/2015 13:01:48    1721979

What are the rules if a player is caught using PED?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 10/05/2015 13:11:24    1721983

I'm surprised there isn't more of it to be honest.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 10/05/2015 13:45:54    1722002

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
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1721983
What are the rules if a player is caught using PED?

not sure. .but what are the rules for anything in the GAA these days?? Charge the player, issue a ban, let him appeal, uphold the ban, let him appeal again, reduce/remove the ban. Standard really!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 10/05/2015 13:49:49    1722004

Didn't the Clare hurling panel and a couple of other inter-county teams get fines a few years back for changing training location without informing the doping authorities? I'd say with the level of testing it'd be fairly simple to avoid getting caught at the moment, I think only a couple of years ago there was about 80 tests done altogether between both codes, only urine tests aswel, very unlikely to find anything unless someone has just taken something 5 minutes before. It goes on in every sport, the only thing I could say for GAA is as amateur sportspeople the price of a proper doping programme would be difficult to attain. Also, there's the question of whether amateur sportspeople should be tested?

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 10/05/2015 13:49:50    1722005

extranjero
County: Wexford
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Also, there's the question of whether amateur sportspeople should be tested?


No question IMO - there is a financial interest in the success of teams (sponsorship/betting/merchandise/ticket sales/etc.). Where money is involved, there is no question that CHEATING should be looked for and exonerated from the sport.

(just to point out, i am not saying this particular player has cheated until the full story is known)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 10/05/2015 14:04:51    1722013

A big bottle of smoke.
Just the GAA showing that "we're testing".

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 10/05/2015 14:20:43    1722024

I think judgement should be reserved until we all get the details.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 10/05/2015 14:51:30    1722038