Can anyone clarify if a rule governs the awarding of a 45 and then throwing up the ball. At the Monaghan intermediate final the team losing by a point were awarded a 45. An opposing player ran in front of the kicker. Another player got involved and pushed the opposing player causing him to fall onto the ground. The referee then booked the player who did the pushing and threw up the ball. Is this allowed as a referee who was beside me at the game disputed if the ref could throw up the ball as it was a technical decision. Any clarity would be greatly appreciated thanks

room2 (Monaghan) - Posts: 96 - 16/10/2014 12:47:56    1664235

I'd agree with the Referee who was beside you and not the one who was Refereeing the Game. Same would apply for Sidelines

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 16/10/2014 12:59:06    1664240

room2 I would say the referee on the field was correct this time. A 45 I think is treated the same as a free-kick, and any aggressive play or retaliation by the team awarded the kick between its awarding and when it is taken results in a throw-up of the ball. I am not sure what the man beside you meant about it being a technical decision, the push on the player standing in front of the ball was an aggressive foul.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/10/2014 14:06:48    1664266

Room 2 - Soma or Croker16 are the boys who know all the GAA rules inside out so whatever Soma said above take as being right.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 16/10/2014 14:56:48    1664299

I am very flattered Offside. Stay talking nicely about me like that and I will let you in on the secret of the GAA having a rule book for their games where all these things can be checked! To be honest I am not entirely sure on this one but I presume a 45 is treated the same as any other free, I cant think why it wouldn't be.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/10/2014 15:27:29    1664315

Ha - fair play.

When I read it I would have thought that the ref was within his rights to give a hop ball but again not 100% sure. A 45 is defined as a free-kick still and the rule on retaliation between the award of the free kick and it being taken says cancel the free and give a hop ball. Its not something you see every day though so can't say for sure.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 16/10/2014 15:43:46    1664324

the ball would not have been in play when the push took place. if the ref deemed it rough play he should have booked the player but it shouldn't effect the kick.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 16/10/2014 15:55:17    1664330

sgoldrick - is it not covered in this rule:

5.35 For a player to retaliate between the award of a
free to his team and the free kick being taken.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOUL -
(i) Cancel free kick.
(ii) Throw in the ball where the original foul
occurred, except as provided under
Exceptions (v) and (vi) of Rule 2.2.

Is the above scenario not covering when the ball isn't in play?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 16/10/2014 16:11:21    1664339

The referee was quite correct to do what he did. It is covered under the rule below

5.35 For a player to retaliate between the award of a
free to his team and the free kick being taken.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOUL -
(i) Cancel free kick.
(ii) Throw in the ball where the original foul
occurred, except as provided under
Exceptions (v) and (vi) of Rule 2.2.
(iii) Apply any other relevant penalty of Rule 5

Simple enough. We have too many people at games that have no idea of the rules and this leads to all sorts of confusion.

Monopoly (Wicklow) - Posts: 199 - 16/10/2014 16:11:52    1664341

that rule needs changing.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 16/10/2014 18:42:02    1664408