I was under the impression that the rules of football state that all players should be outside the 20m and semi circle for kick outs, if so , Donaghy was clearly inside the semi circle re take goal kick? And as another point how did the umpire rule Darrach O'Connor goal bound shot as a wide - when the Kerry defender clearly kicked it over the line.

conair0 (Antrim) - Posts: 45 - 23/09/2014 19:03:46    1656227

It was a perfectly legitimate goal as Donaghy was outside the 21 and more than 13 metres from the ball when the kick was taken. The 45 that wasn't given was a weird one as what the Kerry defender done was as peculiar as the umpires decision to wave it as a wide. To be fair despite some errors the refereeing team probably performed better than both Kerry and Donegal so not much point criticising them.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 23/09/2014 19:31:13    1656243

Enough of these threads. I thought the trolling would stop at some stage today. The amount of irrelevant threads started in the last two day a is unreal

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 23/09/2014 19:31:49    1656244

Well called ConairO - just watched it again and you are correct. Donaghy was inside the semi circle when the kick out was taken so goal should not have stood. Surprised this has gone unnoticed til now.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/09/2014 19:35:39    1656248

I've read the rules before a few times and can't remember seeing anything about this.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 23/09/2014 19:42:41    1656253

Depends on what you call irrelevant I guess. I would have thought this was relevant. Doesn't change the fact Kerry have their name on the cup but still relevant.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/09/2014 19:44:44    1656254

benjyyy - I always thought the rule was from KOs that players had to be beyond the 21 and outside the semi-circle. Is it not?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/09/2014 19:50:36    1656257

Replay!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 23/09/2014 19:51:18    1656258

Interesting point if true, but after the leinster final of 2010 anything goes.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 23/09/2014 19:54:55    1656262

I've had another read on the rules and it only says that you cannot be within 13m of where the kick is taken - nothing about the semi-circle. Though I'm not sure why the semi circle is needed at all?!

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 23/09/2014 19:54:58    1656263

No as soon as Donaghy caught it he should of given it back to Durcan and let him take the kick-out again!!!!!

aidan1000 (Leitrim) - Posts: 106 - 23/09/2014 19:59:41    1656269

Rule 2.7(a)
when the ball is played over the end line by the team attacking that end, the play is restrated by a kick-out off the ground from within the small rectangle. ..............all other players except the player taking the kick-out shall be outside the 20m line until the ball has been kicked. The ball shall travel 13m before being played by another player of the defending team

Nothing wrong with goal and people would really want to move on from determining why Kerry should not have won semi-final and then final and why they benefit from referess decisions. They won, move on.

RoyalRooney (Meath) - Posts: 50 - 23/09/2014 20:01:52    1656271

The 20 yard line has no relevance to a kick out. The rule is that the ball must go forward and it must travel 13 metres. So if you were standing on the sideline, half a metre from the 13m line that would be ok. That said, by my guess at least 40% of all short kick outs were illegal because the refs just couldn't be bothered.

While I'm at it, a foot block is when the foot is within the natural kicking arc of the kicker.

The Face (Monaghan) - Posts: 890 - 23/09/2014 20:03:36    1656273

Offside :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 23/09/2014 20:06:16    1656277

Every time I see posters in here who don't know the most basic of rules I always spare a thought for the poor referees around the country who most likely have these lads shouting at them each weekend. It surely is the most thankless of tasks.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 23/09/2014 20:06:42    1656278

If I am wrong I stand corrected. Irony is it was a ref who called us out on it once and made KO be taken again stating our forward wasn't allowed inside the semi. Refs eh ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/09/2014 20:12:16    1656283

Ha just seeing your post Soma. As I said in my last post it was a ref who blew it so spare a thought for us on the sideline if the refs don't even know the rules :-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/09/2014 20:17:19    1656286

Maybe it was back in the days when kickouts were taken from the 20 metre line offside? If so the ref would have been right then as well. Most refs know a lot more about the rules than most players and spectators, though these people are still happy to advise.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 23/09/2014 20:39:10    1656301

The only time the semi-circle comes into play is for a penalty. Donegal also collected a kick out inside the 20m line on Sunday which was also legitimate as the ball had travelled the required distance and the player was outside the line when the ball was kicked. The amount of Donegal fans beside me saying we got away with that and Kerry fans shouting for a hop ball was incredible.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 23/09/2014 20:52:25    1656311

I am always happy to advise Soma.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/09/2014 20:58:49    1656315