These are unofficial rankings based on the same point system used by the IRB.

1. Kerry 103.57
2. Donegal 99.99
3. Dublin 98.27
4. Mayo 97.81
5. Monaghan 92.60
6. Cork 91.95
7. Armagh 90.93
8. Tyrone 90.50
9. Kildare 88.93
10. Meath 87.31
11. Galway 85.56
12. Derry 85.00
13. Roscommon 84.30
14. Laois 83.57
15. Tipperary 83.18
16. Down 82.14
17. Louth 79.14
18. Cavan 79.08
19. Wexford 76.79
20. Clare 76.04
21. Sligo 75.99
22. Westmeath 74.50
23. Longford 74.17
24. Fermanagh 72.87
25. Limerick 72.62
26. Antrim 70.57
27. Wicklow 70.05
28. Leitrim 69.68
29. Offaly 67.42
30. London 63.68
31. Carlow 63.20
32. Waterford 62.63
33. New York 57.54

What do we think? Does the ranking seem fair? Is anyone to high or low?

Just as a point of interest for anyone into it. The average co-efficient for each province is as follows:
Ulster 84.85
Connaught 82.66 (excluding London & NY)
Munster 81.66
Leinster 78.46

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 23/09/2014 14:10:20    1655980

My Official rankings -

Kerry - No 1...

After that nobody really matters...

nemogirl (Cork) - Posts: 10 - 23/09/2014 14:16:46    1655988

Longford 11 places behind Derry? Is this based on league or championship?

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 23/09/2014 14:46:29    1656005

Longford 11 places behind Derry? Is this based on league or championship?

Both, though match status is taken into account, meaning a win in the championship is worth more co-efficient points then a win in the league.

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 23/09/2014 14:57:10    1656015

Kerry played mayo with a extra man for most of the semi final after Lee Keegan was sent off and were not able to beat them. Second day they had an extra man again and it took extra time to beat them with their extra man popping up with 1-3. Think Mayo are every bit as good as Kerry.

Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 23/09/2014 14:59:35    1656020

kerry donegal mayo dublin cork monaghan..after that bit of a lottery

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 23/09/2014 15:24:25    1656046

What do we think? Does the ranking seem fair? Is anyone to high or low?

Yeah we should be above Fermanagh so either they are too high or we are too low.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/09/2014 15:45:59    1656064

Seems like a great system...How exactly do the points work?? Like how many points for a league win and how many for a championship win?? I assume a team gets more points per win in division 1 compared to division 4? Also does a team get more points for a win in their provincial championship as opposed to the qualifiers or are they of equal value??? So many questions... I'm intrigued!!

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 23/09/2014 16:00:21    1656079

I can understand excluding New York, but why do you have London excluded from Connachts average? Unlike New York they are effectively a full county, playing in the League and Qualifiers. Hardly accurate if you can remove the weakest team from Connacht, but still keep Carlow in Leinster.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 23/09/2014 16:20:05    1656097

Seems like a great system...How exactly do the points work?? Like how many points for a league win and how many for a championship win?? I assume a team gets more points per win in division 1 compared to division 4? Also does a team get more points for a win in their provincial championship as opposed to the qualifiers or are they of equal value??? So many questions... I'm intrigued!!

For the record I had nothing to with these ranking, but like yourself I find these kind of things interesting. I stumbled across this information and thought I would share it with the good people of hoganstand. Details of how they work out the points can be found on this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football_rankings

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 23/09/2014 16:36:46    1656114

Seems quite fair and accurate to be honest

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 23/09/2014 16:39:46    1656115

What did Bill Shankley say...."first is first, second is nowhere"

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 23/09/2014 16:42:37    1656121

http://www.hoganstand.com/BlogForm.aspx?BlogEntryID=113

The Hoganstand has some rankings, yet to be updated following the final. Seems to use championship and then league placing.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 23/09/2014 16:56:12    1656128

Fabio, it matters not a jot as someone said as Kerry are at top and nothing else matters.

However, there is no way that Mayo could be rated as higher than Dublin on any sort of measure, not least fact that Dublin have beaten them last five times they've met!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/09/2014 17:11:44    1656146

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Fabio, it matters not a jot as someone said as Kerry are at top and nothing else matters.

However, there is no way that Mayo could be rated as higher than Dublin on any sort of measure, not least fact that Dublin have beaten them last five times they've met!


Have they now??

Also, the standard by which they may have been measured (and not by me!) may be who knocked who out of the championship.
The champions knocked Mayo out after extra time in a replay while the runners up knocked Dublin out at the first attempt. I don't agree with that way of comparing but it is one way of doing it. .

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 23/09/2014 17:25:28    1656160

Kerry are 5.3 points ahead of Dublin who are only 5.6 ahead of Monaghan.
Something wrong there.

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 23/09/2014 17:36:50    1656166

Yes they have Cavanman: two regular league games, one league semi final and an AI final. Pretty fkn comprehensive to me :-)

If it was on championship, the Longford would be ahead of Derry.

As I say these things are nonsense, and fabio's putting Dublin behind Mayo proves it!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/09/2014 17:53:46    1656178

i have mayo ahead due to nature in which dublin were comprehensively defeated by donegal whereas mayo kerry could have gone either way..straight forward

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 23/09/2014 17:55:15    1656179

The points system makes sense when you read the Wikipedia page. Great concept altogether I think. I like the idea of the home team starting at three points down to begin with to cancel out the home advantage. And then loosing more points if they loose at home as well. Makes sense...

This points system is great because it takes all the subjectivity of possible rankings out of it.

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 23/09/2014 17:55:21    1656180

If its based on league and championship Louth seem to be very high at 17 considering they did not win any league games and only won one championship match. Louths record in League and championship 2014 is played 10 won 1 draw 2 lost 7.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 23/09/2014 17:57:26    1656183