Let's put it this way, if the IRFU or Leinster Branch (Rugby) were running the hurling this year they'd ensure that the Cork v Tipp AI semi final would be a sell out. Instead we'll have 65-70k at it. A great crowd but it's with zero effort from the GAA.

Get in contact with hurling clubs from hurling counties such as meath/kildare/wicklow/westmeath/armagh/louth/antrim/dublin etc and try get them to bring a bus full of kids and a few parents down for the day. Offer very good deals for a group of 20 or more.

This is just one simple idea I have but I'm sure you can think of many more and the GAA could too if they tried. If there's 10k free seats or more there on Sunday it's an absolute joke the GAA haven't made an effort to get more bums on seats.

First ever croke park and AI series meeting between bitter rivals cork and tipp. Games this big don't come around very often and the GAA needs to make them as glamour-es as possible.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 15/08/2014 17:57:37    1637380

But sure 60,000 would be a great crowd at a premier league game.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 15/08/2014 18:16:39    1637389

Agree, Cork V Tipp in any economic climate should be a sell out- two large populated counties. Even 60-65K in Croker looks bad.

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 15/08/2014 18:27:23    1637393

They do offer cheap tickets.
But you're right, the aim should be to fill the place.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 15/08/2014 18:39:06    1637400

The Longford U16 County Hurling squad shall be in attendance!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 15/08/2014 19:37:20    1637420

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Ya 60,000 is a great crowd for a premierleague game, Of which there are 10 on every week of the league and the top 4 or 5 teams would beat that number. 60,000 for a one off, first time ever meeting between two interesting teams deserve a sell out. If limerick were munster champs this year we would have got 60,000 at ccroker. thats with kilkenny bringin no one as the majority wait for the final

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 15/08/2014 20:03:41    1637435

60,000 is a massive crowd, but agree that with a bit of forward thinking this could sell out.

The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 15/08/2014 20:48:24    1637456

Ya 60,000 is a great crowd for a premierleague game, Of which there are 10 on every week of the league and the top 4 or 5 teams would beat that number. 60,000 for a one off, first time ever meeting between two interesting teams deserve a sell out. If limerick were munster champs this year we would have got 60,000 at ccroker. thats with kilkenny bringin no one as the majority wait for the final

There was a bit of sarcasm in my post, 60,000 is a dreadful crowd. A part from a few videos on youtube the GAA haven't promoted the game at all.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 16/08/2014 09:57:42    1637505

15/08/2014 17:57:37 Jack_Goff
Let's put it this way, if the IRFU or Leinster Branch (Rugby) were running the hurling this year they'd ensure that the Cork v Tipp AI semi final would be a sell out. Instead we'll have 65-70k at it. A great crowd but it's with zero effort from the GAA.
Get in contact with hurling clubs from hurling counties such as meath/kildare/wicklow/westmeath/armagh/louth/antrim/dublin etc and try get them to bring a bus full of kids and a few parents down for the day. Offer very good deals for a group of 20 or more.
This is just one simple idea I have but I'm sure you can think of many more and the GAA could too if they tried. If there's 10k free seats or more there on Sunday it's an absolute joke the GAA haven't made an effort to get more bums on seats.
First ever croke park and AI series meeting between bitter rivals cork and tipp. Games this big don't come around very often and the GAA needs to make them as glamour-es as possible. You incapable of understanding irony jack?
You whinge and moan like a petulant child about the coverage rugby gets in the media and now you have a thread about gaa not doing enough marketing etc.
Irish rugby has to promote itself the way it does as the GAA is such a behemoth. The GAA doesn't know how to market itself properly as it had no competition for decades so never had to market itself properly.

15/08/2014 20:03:41 Fishermantom
Ya 60,000 is a great crowd for a premierleague game, Of which there are 10 on every week of the league and the top 4 or 5 teams would beat that number. 60,000 for a one off, first time ever meeting between two interesting teams deserve a sell out. If limerick were munster champs this year we would have got 60,000 at ccroker. thats with kilkenny bringin no one as the majority wait for the final top 4/5 sides cant beat 60'000 as don't have stadiums of capacity to do so. Theyre also in countries with much bigger populations and are playing sport played across world and fans from worldwide travel to support

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/08/2014 10:37:25    1637515

Agreed , but I wouldnt limit the promotion to just semi finals or quarter finals theres a bigger issue than just marquee days .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 16/08/2014 10:39:48    1637516

I know lots of people who only started to go to Leinster rugby because it is so well marketed. Now they have average home crowds not much lower than Dublin. When GAA pushed the boat out they had 85,000 at first round league of Dubs/Tyrone! 20k advertising can return multiple of that. EPL borefest starts today and lots of people will watch it because Sky make it sound interesting. Which it is not. Tipp/Cork should be great game but you would hardly know it was on if you were anoraks like ourselves. GAA should have it on every radio ad break.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 16/08/2014 10:41:22    1637517

16/08/2014 10:39:48 Damothedub
Agreed , but I wouldnt limit the promotion to just semi finals or quarter finals theres a bigger issue than just marquee days . Its takes a long time to change mindsets. There's plenty who will only turn out for bigger games preferring to watch earlier games on tv. It affects all sports especially rugby. That isn't bandwagoning its just irish nature..
16/08/2014 10:41:22 hurlingdub
I know lots of people who only started to go to Leinster rugby because it is so well marketed. Now they have average home crowds not much lower than Dublin. When GAA pushed the boat out they had 85,000 at first round league of Dubs/Tyrone! 20k advertising can return multiple of that. EPL borefest starts today and lots of people will watch it because Sky make it sound interesting. Which it is not. Tipp/Cork should be great game but you would hardly know it was on if you were anoraks like ourselves. GAA should have it on every radio ad break. Or the success and widespread coverage helped show them the sport is very good and then they've
Or they watch EPL as they like soccer and its the biggest soccer comp shown live. It is fairly interesting.

Is their not something funny about this - You have threads giving out about RTE supposedly not doing enough for GAA yet other threads saying GAA don't do enough for themselves..

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/08/2014 11:43:24    1637543

I don't think the GAA care about marketing they know they will practically have full houses from semi final on in hurling/football.They don't market league and bar August & September there is no great coverage of GAA.They selling themselves short as kids will be exposed to soccer/rugby coverage

HandyMoran (Roscommon) - Posts: 327 - 16/08/2014 12:02:19    1637548

i agree the gaa need to promote their sport better
but whats your obsession jack goff with having to have a full house in croke park for most matches?
there will be around 60 thousand whats wrong with that?
there will be enough room for anybody who wants to go
if anybody in cork and tipp didnt know there was an all ireland semi final involving their own county
then there be something wrong

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/08/2014 13:21:19    1637569

because there should be a full house hill..it isnt good enough to not get a full house for the big games when our competitors put in a lot more effort and get bigger attendances in some cases for smaller games

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 16/08/2014 15:32:30    1637626

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because there should be a full house hill..it isnt good enough to not get a full house for the big games when our competitors put in a lot more effort and get bigger attendances in some cases for smaller games

last year both hurling semi finals had 63 thousand each day
nobody was whinging looking for full houses
in fact they were the largest crowds at semi finals since before the recession.
there was 45 thousand at limerick v kilkenny, nobody said that was poor so why is 60 thousand for the other semi final
being classed as not good enough haha.
I dont mean to be funny but how is it possible for our competitiors as you put it to get bigger than 60 thousand?
presumably you mean soccer and rugby well they only have a stadium that holds 50 thousand so when are they getting bigger attendances?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/08/2014 17:45:07    1637681

You incapable of understanding irony jack?
You whinge and moan like a petulant child about the coverage rugby gets in the media and now you have a thread about gaa not doing enough marketing etc.
Irish rugby has to promote itself the way it does as the GAA is such a behemoth. The GAA doesn't know how to market itself properly as it had no competition for decades so never had to market itself properly.

Wow I say something positive about Rugby on here and you have your worst rant yet. No wonder your Rugby thread has resulted in you talking to yourself. Seriously you need to cop on. 8,000 posts spent mostly fighting with people on here. Some people really are strange.

You say Irish Rugby has to promote itself the way it does because the GAA is a behemoth. Why do you say that as if it's a bad thing? It's a good thing and means most Irish people support and prefer our national sports. I'd rather that than we all end up a bunch of west brits with no culture of our own.

Just to make where I stand clear the GAA does not receive it's fair share of coverage from the media but judging by their lack of promtion for the big games they couldn't give a damn!

Zero promotion from the GAA and you get just short of 70k into Croke Park. The IRFU often has to put its promotion into overdrive to get 50k into the Aviva or close to it for Leinster games say. SO why the hell can't the GAA make an effort and get an extra 12k and make it a sell out.

The counties themselves bringing about 65k is great but you've a lot of tourists in Dublin and between neutrals in Dublin and the surrounding counties you could easily make iup the rest. Take my club in Meath. If they were contacted by Croke Park and invited to bring a bus full of youngsters up to croker at say 4 or 5 euro a head for the kids we'd get it done no bother.

I think Keeper says his hurling club do that so all it takes is a bit of communication and you have a great day out for young hurlers from a wide range of counties. If the games not going to sell ot you might as well make it. The last time the GAA did a similar promotion was for an aussie rules test a few years ago after the hype of it had gone and they got over 60k into it. There were tours from a ll over the country coming up for that and it made a great day for them. Not much to ask.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 18/08/2014 17:36:37    1638489

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i agree the gaa need to promote their sport better
but whats your obsession jack goff with having to have a full house in croke park for most matches?
there will be around 60 thousand whats wrong with that?
there will be enough room for anybody who wants to go
if anybody in cork and tipp didnt know there was an all ireland semi final involving their own county
then there be something wrong

There was nearly 70k at it. (68,800) WIth a bit of promotion to clubs around the country outside of cork and tipp they could have filled it up. And on top of that to neutrals in Dublin and other counties close. Tourists as well.

As for your obsession comment, wind your next in lad. We're all obsessed about the GAA. That's why we post on here everyday. I don't slag you in the attendance thread saying what's your obsession with attendances at matches because you know there is nothing wrong with it. I'm not actually obsessed with it in a bad way, I just think it's one of many opportunities lost by the GAA to sell our games. Other organizations like the FAI and the IRFU would do anything to have the ability to get say 70k from just 2 counties into a big match. You've said it yourself they should promote it more so what more is there to say. 12k free spaces in croker at the weekend. Could easily have been full.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 18/08/2014 17:42:08    1638491

Yeah its nice to see big crowds at games everyone agrees on that but you started this thread complaining because every last ticket wasn't sold . Bit harsh when 68 thousand paid in that's a great crowd and up on last year.
Hurling semi finals haven't sold out since the boom so was asking a bit much is what I would feel

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/08/2014 21:32:27    1638618

just looking for the gaa to do more hill..looking to improve and expand..anything bad about that?..our sports are bigger than those sports so we should aim to be much better should we not?

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 18/08/2014 21:57:29    1638651