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Biggest rivalry going, but where is the publicity?

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The 2 best teams in the country playing each other this weekend, under lights, on TV. A marquee game. Biggest rivalry in football. But where are the ads? Wheres the publicity? Wheres the razzmatazz?
All you hear all week is Ireland Scotland, Liverpool Everton etc

Do we want the league to be taken seriously or not?
GAA havent a clue

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/01/2014 15:55:31    1538382

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Setanta are doing their bit with with a heavy promo rotation etc...

But yeah... once again.. the GAA seem happy enough to just let stuff happen and keep their fingers crossed

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/01/2014 16:03:27    1538389

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only ad i heard for setanta was

"the only place you can see Liverpool V Everton yada yada yada, oh and by the way at the weekend Dublin and Kerry"

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/01/2014 16:17:42    1538400

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It's preparation for championship at the end of the day. Cork v Kerry in the McGrath final recently was described as shouldering in the school hall. Saturday is up a bit in the scale.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 29/01/2014 16:19:40    1538401

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its second biggest tournament we have!!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/01/2014 16:22:40    1538405

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Liam ye can have this one, we will wait for the finer weather to beat ye!

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 29/01/2014 16:25:09    1538408

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waiting a while nowadays Woops :)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/01/2014 16:26:08    1538409

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Is it a rivalry anymore? Like we beat them all the time now.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 29/01/2014 16:33:44    1538414

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Liamwalkinstown
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The 2 best teams in the country playing each other this weekend, under lights, on TV.


I thought ye were playing Kerry, not Mayo?

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 29/01/2014 16:41:27    1538421

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How would you promote it Liam?

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 29/01/2014 17:01:41    1538435

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Why do we have to go mad marketing our games. Do we want to follow the english broadcaster's sensationalism of the premiership and all other sports that they cover? Any supporters that want to go know that it is on. I'm sure any half-arsed dub supporter that can be there will be there.

mawmouther (Meath) - Posts: 109 - 29/01/2014 17:02:54    1538436

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29/01/2014 17:02:54
mawmouther
Why do we have to go mad marketing our games. Do we want to follow the english broadcaster's sensationalism of the premiership and all other sports that they cover? Any supporters that want to go know that it is on. I'm sure any half-arsed dub supporter that can be there will be there.
You want as many people in the gate as possible.
Its nowhere as simple as that and this time of year has way more competition for viewers/supporters/spectators so you do need to market games in a big way

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/01/2014 17:18:26    1538443

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its league in the s*** of February in a what will be a 1/4 filled Croke Park. No hype required.

crossfieldball (Galway) - Posts: 650 - 29/01/2014 17:21:35    1538449

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I agree with the sentiment of Liam's post. As much as I hate admitting it, Dublin and Kerry is the biggest rivalry in football/gaelic games (objectively speaking - subjectively I couldn't give a s***e). We are not asking anybody to start sensationalising anything (if they did then Cork v Westmeath would be part of a super Sunday double) but we do need to hype things up a little bit. This is an important game. The league is important. Teams cannot afford to have a laissez faire attitude to the league. Winning the league does not guarantee you success but it is not a hindrance. Cork and Donegal (two of the favourites before last year's league) had poor leagues and were worse in the championship. Kerry had a poor league (missed Dr Crokes players as they will this year) and ultimately had a poor championship- only one win against a team that were above Division 3 (and that was Cork who were bad).

The league is a serious competition and we are getting it off to the serious start. More should be made of it.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/01/2014 17:48:49    1538471

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It's not really their fault, as long as the actual teams and players don't take it seriously, you can't expect anyone else to. Check out the miserable heads on the winners, and they'll never miss a chance to say that's what's REALLY important is the first round of the championship in the back pitch of ballybog

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 29/01/2014 17:59:58    1538476

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The worst thing is that managers take the league way way more seriously than they let on. But no manager wants to come out and say that they are going all out for promotion or whatever because if it all falls apart you're already feeling the pinch before the championship has even begun. Therefore they publicly dismiss it even though they're steaming if it all falls apart.

And say what you want about the media involved but it's very hard to promote a competition when the people taking part are doing the opposite. Everyone knows half the muck you see in the Rugby Pro 12 is a sideshow but at least there's a player out every week doing an interview stating on how it's important for whatever reason, not saying that losing it would be completely insignificant and that's if they acknowledge the press at all.

On a side note what's funny about that is that for the likes of Kerry and Dublin the leagues is less important than it is for almost anyone else. So this is the match that probably could not be built up genuinely. The likes of some of the Division 2 games this weekend are arguably the most significant.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 29/01/2014 18:43:38    1538487

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It'd probably be a bit more enticing if both teams were playing all their best players

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 29/01/2014 19:16:46    1538503

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The easy solution for the league is to use it as a ranking for championship draws. That'd give it something of an added edge. It's unlikely to ever happen.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 29/01/2014 20:09:06    1538529

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Unfortunately, in Ireland, the GAA appears to be associated with fine weather, short sleeves, long days, beer gardens, and the additional female support. Its embedded in the Irish psyche now and you would have to literally move mountains to change it.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 29/01/2014 20:10:13    1538532

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HA publicity, the Gaa struggle to advertise big championship games much less big league games, it's a shame all the same but advertising was never their way, hard to know why but it isn't.

Anyway I suppose we can't expect top quality matches this time of year, Gaa lads are amateurs so they can't be expected to be putting in gut busting performances in early february while also flat out working. Energy needs to be preserved for the serious stuff come june and teams like Dublin and Kerry nearly always have designs on playing well into september. So the Gaa probably doesn't see the value in proper promotion of league games because they know most summer fans won't bother watching or certainly won't bother going to the games.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/01/2014 20:34:18    1538549

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