National - RTE hurling pundits

I have to say the hurling panel on rte is very good and that the football guys should take a leaf out of their book. They don't spend the show slating players for poor displays every player puts in huge commitment and sacrifice just to play the game and they don't need these so called experts running them down over mistakes .the hurling guys always praise the game and the way it's played even though there is plenty of mistakes made .this sort of negative punditry is very bad for the game instead of trying to promote the game more

mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts:92 - 04/09/2017 01:31:21   2042399

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Agree with the point overall, but the problem is they are so "hear no evil, see no evil" it is unreal. Without going over old ground, there are lads there who think striking with the hurl is "good manly play" and pulling faceguards, etc is "ah look, these things happen". They are also the sort who think sentiment is more important than enforcing the rule book.
Also, they were talking about "oh I love the All-Ireland final in September and it shouldn't be changed" - ask any club player should it be brought forward by a month so they are not playing in the slop in October and November.
Also, I feel RTE pundits opinion carries too much clout in the GAA, I am a bit of a contrarian myself and could point to several points in completely disagreed with them on.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts:3878 - 04/09/2017 21:51:31   2042764

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Replying To Pinkie:  "Agree with the point overall, but the problem is they are so "hear no evil, see no evil" it is unreal. Without going over old ground, there are lads there who think striking with the hurl is "good manly play" and pulling faceguards, etc is "ah look, these things happen". They are also the sort who think sentiment is more important than enforcing the rule book.
Also, they were talking about "oh I love the All-Ireland final in September and it shouldn't be changed" - ask any club player should it be brought forward by a month so they are not playing in the slop in October and November.
Also, I feel RTE pundits opinion carries too much clout in the GAA, I am a bit of a contrarian myself and could point to several points in completely disagreed with them on."
totally agree with you ..

I prefer the football panelists cause at least they aren't afraid to say how they really feel. you get this feeling that hurling pundits are so proud of the game that they can't say anything negative as if it's blasphemy. Honestly feels like a fella could smash another fellas head in with a hurl and you'd get "ah sure it's a Hardy game and these things happen, player x isn't that type of player" ... BS

give me fellas who aren't scared to tell us how they really feel as opposed to the guys licking backsides

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts:12429 - 04/09/2017 22:26:04   2042804

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Replying To Pinkie:  "Agree with the point overall, but the problem is they are so "hear no evil, see no evil" it is unreal. Without going over old ground, there are lads there who think striking with the hurl is "good manly play" and pulling faceguards, etc is "ah look, these things happen". They are also the sort who think sentiment is more important than enforcing the rule book.
Also, they were talking about "oh I love the All-Ireland final in September and it shouldn't be changed" - ask any club player should it be brought forward by a month so they are not playing in the slop in October and November.
Also, I feel RTE pundits opinion carries too much clout in the GAA, I am a bit of a contrarian myself and could point to several points in completely disagreed with them on."
Dunno bout that, one of yesterday panelists cheer leading Galway's wonderful victory wrote two years ago that Michael Donoghue appeared as clueless and confused on the touchline as a 'new curate in a parish'. Nothing wrong with criticism but it doesn't have to be personally abusive to an amateur participant.
Thought Michael Donoghue was the essence of calmness and humility all week.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts:228 - 04/09/2017 22:53:16   2042812

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Hilarious to say the least , The forum has slated the Sunday game , in particular and in no particular order Spillane Brolly O Rourke O Shea to a esser extent Whelan have been vilified and now compared to hurling with a blink of an eye they suddenly are to be held in esteem , The forum has also been awash with how much sky's coverage and analysis is better but let's forget all of what I've said and remember it's big ball v small ball so the thruth goes out the window

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts:4537 - 04/09/2017 22:56:12   2042814

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There was a particularly dirty stroke in yesterday's game where a fella was struck between the legs a few times with a hurl. His team mates seen it and went crazy and It should have been a straight red card but it went unmentioned by the panel. As the song goes "The man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest".

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts:8814 - 04/09/2017 23:34:24   2042827

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This point has nothing to do with match analysis but there's a far better camaraderie between the hurling pundits on the SG. A real love of the game that usually transcends county rivalries.

With the football SG panels there isn't the same fun and spirit, banter.

Cyril Farrell is a once off, some of the stuff he comes out with 'that's like Cinderella under the Christmas tree as such' being an all time classic where noone bar Cyril knew what he meant. Loughnane, for all his stirring, is funny. Like back in 2012 saying Dublin were playing poor constipated hurling against Wexford. Daly another character. O'Rourke and Spillane aren't that funny in my opinion. Brolly being Brolly. Tomás O'Sé is solid like Ciaran Whelan but you won't get much entertainment out of them. Dessie Dolan does nothing for me. I know the primary job is analysis but i must say i prefer a bit of craic and the more laid back but passionate (i know it's a contradiction) hurling pundits.

The football punditry is a much more serious business.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts:1147 - 05/09/2017 00:49:29   2042839

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Replying To Laois76:  "This point has nothing to do with match analysis but there's a far better camaraderie between the hurling pundits on the SG. A real love of the game that usually transcends county rivalries.

With the football SG panels there isn't the same fun and spirit, banter.

Cyril Farrell is a once off, some of the stuff he comes out with 'that's like Cinderella under the Christmas tree as such' being an all time classic where noone bar Cyril knew what he meant. Loughnane, for all his stirring, is funny. Like back in 2012 saying Dublin were playing poor constipated hurling against Wexford. Daly another character. O'Rourke and Spillane aren't that funny in my opinion. Brolly being Brolly. Tomás O'Sé is solid like Ciaran Whelan but you won't get much entertainment out of them. Dessie Dolan does nothing for me. I know the primary job is analysis but i must say i prefer a bit of craic and the more laid back but passionate (i know it's a contradiction) hurling pundits.

The football punditry is a much more serious business."
Brolly is the character of the football punditry. He knows how to play it.
He draws out Spillane who tries to keep up with him....
O'Rourke is boring.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts:249 - 06/09/2017 01:24:30   2043244

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "There was a particularly dirty stroke in yesterday's game where a fella was struck between the legs a few times with a hurl. His team mates seen it and went crazy and It should have been a straight red card but it went unmentioned by the panel. As the song goes "The man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest"."
Spill the beans Ulsterman..

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:2130 - 06/09/2017 08:32:16   2043257

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Replying To Laois76:  "This point has nothing to do with match analysis but there's a far better camaraderie between the hurling pundits on the SG. A real love of the game that usually transcends county rivalries.

With the football SG panels there isn't the same fun and spirit, banter.

Cyril Farrell is a once off, some of the stuff he comes out with 'that's like Cinderella under the Christmas tree as such' being an all time classic where noone bar Cyril knew what he meant. Loughnane, for all his stirring, is funny. Like back in 2012 saying Dublin were playing poor constipated hurling against Wexford. Daly another character. O'Rourke and Spillane aren't that funny in my opinion. Brolly being Brolly. Tomás O'Sé is solid like Ciaran Whelan but you won't get much entertainment out of them. Dessie Dolan does nothing for me. I know the primary job is analysis but i must say i prefer a bit of craic and the more laid back but passionate (i know it's a contradiction) hurling pundits.

The football punditry is a much more serious business."
Bring on John Milan and Davey Fitz and maybe that old Galway buck who was a master story teller (don't know his name sorry, no hurling historian). They seemed a bit of banter on up for the match. Milan seemed a bit tipsy though, maybe that's just his character but he seemed like he had one too many

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts:459 - 06/09/2017 09:09:07   2043271

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Mullane my mistake

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts:459 - 06/09/2017 09:11:59   2043273

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "Bring on John Milan and Davey Fitz and maybe that old Galway buck who was a master story teller (don't know his name sorry, no hurling historian). They seemed a bit of banter on up for the match. Milan seemed a bit tipsy though, maybe that's just his character but he seemed like he had one too many"
hard to know,mullane always seems like he's choking with emotion!

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts:2061 - 06/09/2017 10:20:56   2043312

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Game of Tyrones: that old Galway buck who was a master story teller (don't know his name sorry, no hurling historian)

Pete Finnerty, 53, hardly that old! 5 All Stars, 4 in a row from 1985-1988. Part of probably the greatest hurling half back line of all time with Tony Keady and Gerry McInerney. You've disappointed me with your gaa knowledge.

The equivalent of not knowing Sean Kavanagh, 5 all-stars too!

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts:1147 - 07/09/2017 12:31:52   2043789

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Replying To Laois76:  "Game of Tyrones: that old Galway buck who was a master story teller (don't know his name sorry, no hurling historian)

Pete Finnerty, 53, hardly that old! 5 All Stars, 4 in a row from 1985-1988. Part of probably the greatest hurling half back line of all time with Tony Keady and Gerry McInerney. You've disappointed me with your gaa knowledge.

The equivalent of not knowing Sean Kavanagh, 5 all-stars too!"
He's from Tyrone, cut him some slack,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Eddie Brennan is turning out to be a good pundit along with big Cummins who did analyze the keeping errors but not in a derogatory manner and that means more than the slating that football panels get up to.

bricktop (Down) - Posts:1859 - 07/09/2017 14:18:01   2043847

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All I can say is that if you had to go out on a night on the tear you'd go out with the RTE hurling pundits ahead of the RTE football pundits.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts:1414 - 10/09/2017 02:09:28   2044524

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