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The top 9 in hurling are streets above the rest. Offaly whether they like it or not need to cooperate with the next 8 or so counties below them when it comes to championship restructuring. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 07/06/2017 19:45:46 1996637 Link 0 |
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Were any of these counties consulted when this revised hurling structure was put together? I'd doubt it and Meath are already giving out, so where do these counties get to have a say in all this? Imposed by the hurling elite for the hurling elite yet again. bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 08/06/2017 12:59:36 1996897 Link 0 |
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The Second 9 will get an opportunity to speak, ammend and vote on the proposed changes. The likes of Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Meath and Carlow given their close proximity geography wise and hurling level wise should be leading the charge. Antrim and Down should also row in together.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 08/06/2017 13:25:35 1996907 Link 0 |
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A meeting of Central Council is to take place on Saturday the 17th of June where they will discuss the proposals and if they are in favour of the new ideas then a Special Congress will vote on the proposals later in the year. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 10/06/2017 21:33:21 1997693 Link 0 |
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Exactly and hurling's second 9 need to be smart and supportive of each other rather than being split and being absolutely shafted.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 10/06/2017 21:49:28 1997698 Link 0 |
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I think most hurling fans regardless of their county are against the proposed changes. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 11/06/2017 01:14:16 1997762 Link 0 |
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It seems to favour the top 9, not just Kilkenny and Tipperary. The GAA are quick to draw up formats in favour of the top teams. Derry shouldn't be below Ring level. They earned promotion yesterday but should have been part of an expanded Ring Cup. Antrim and Carlow are both qualifier level counties. The lower tiers need to be examined and the tier boundaries redrawn. Teams shouldn't be playing in a lower tier for the sake of it because it's nice and tidy to sign off on by some Croke Park administrator. The Provincial groups should be 1 of 5 teams and 1 of 6 teams. Should the qualifier group become a new Cup/Championship above Christy Ring level or merge with the existing Christy Ring Cup? The qualifier group is effectively becoming tier 2, with the provision of the top 1 or 2 teams entering All-Ireland playoffs in the same year. Suggestion (35 teams): 1. Provincial Championships - 1 group of 5 teams and 1 group of 6 teams. 2. Qualifier Cup - 1 group of 6 teams. 3. Christy Ring Cup - 1 groups of 6 teams. 4. Nicky Rackard Cup - 1 group of 6 teams. 5. Lord Meagher Cup - 1 group of 6 teams. Notes: a. Top 2 teams in each group into their respective Championship/Cup finals. b. 6th team in each group relegated. In the case of provincial groups, only the group with 6 has a team relegated. Munster will only have 6 when Kerry are promoted. Leinster will have 6 in all other years. c. Qualifier cup winners promoted as the 6th team in one of the provincial groups. d. Qualifier cup finalists both given home advantage against provincial 3rd placed teams in quarter-final play-off. e. All lower tier cup winners promoted. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 11/06/2017 09:08:16 1997787 Link 0 |
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Wait until Wicklow get promotion. Then usually what happens is they change the format and we get shafted. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 11/06/2017 14:23:13 1997885 Link 0 |
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Would it not suit Wicklow better to sort out their underage teams......for gods sake last year Down travelled whole way to Arklow to be met by 14 players.....I know there are good hurling people in Wicklow but more work at underage in their county structures are required if they are to be sustainable in longer term at Christy Ring level ...........the fact there is still no word on an all Ireland minor b for hurling is a joke, the Celtic challenge is great for u17s but what about the minor hurlers in those counties.....last couple of competitions have been great, yes Kerry have won 4/5 in a row but little more of a puck of ball between them, Meath , Kildare and Down the past couple of years ....... As for Derry a joke they were allowed drop down to Rackard.....watch next year when they make little or no effort at Christy Ring level......their u17s hammered yesterday by Carlow, some of these counties playing pure lip service to hurling and instead of being used as a stepping stone on road to progression some counties using Rackard, Meagher for a day out in Crocker and creating the pretence of hurling progress PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 11/06/2017 16:09:49 1997911 Link 0 |
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After mini-consideration, possibly the following is best for all: legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7846 - 11/06/2017 16:26:37 1997920 Link 0 |
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I'm not against them and I don't see how they favour Tipp and KK. The fact is that despite the great effort and strides made by the likes of Kerry, Westmeath and Carlow, there is still a massive gulf between the top 9 and the rest. Games between a top 9 team and a second tier team are usually extremely one-sided. Throwing some second tier teams into the full round robin series would likely result in regular trashings for those teams and would do nothing to improve their situation.
Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 11/06/2017 16:32:25 1997925 Link 0 |