I agree no intelligent defence for this transfer on here it is simple it is a shameful pursuit of glory by Kildare county board....with total disregard for the game as a whole trying to take a short cut to success!
Winning an all ireland this year (which is a huge stretch for kildare) would not justify this transfer but would emphasis the extent of how wrong it is!

I would go as far as to say this is cheating by Kildare County board in this total abuse of the the transfer system in my opinion!

pigonastick (Dublin) - Posts: 487 - 29/05/2012 15:30:55    1182918

let them get in who they want, they tried this lark in the late 90s, without getting their elusive all ireland, they got 2 leinsters ok ,so i suppose thats a big deal for kildare,

millhouse (Meath) - Posts: 892 - 29/05/2012 16:17:57    1182971

Can Kildare now be called "Wesignanyone.com"?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 29/05/2012 16:49:10    1183003

Ahh st conleth. You didn't continue not only am I in your mind that woman I'm also jinxie and bettystown too and whoever else points out kildares failures.

Any way away from the wumming of these 2 children. Something has to be done about this perhaps a petition to the cccc or even better to gaa to withdraw funding or have them sanctioned in some way. Its obvious brolly was right most kildare gaels have no problem with this.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/05/2012 17:28:28    1183061

Well If anybody didnt think that Seanie was been messed around by the CCCC heres one for you!.........Kfm have reported that the CCCC have referred the transfer back to the CAC for clarification as to what they meant. CCCC were meant to rubberstamp the transfer or appeal the CAC decision to the DRA last night but NO they sent it back to CAC. What a farce! If this committee couldnt characterise what constitutes an objection. Which was the excuse used for the delay and they cant understand the CAC decision then why are these people been appointed and allowed give a judgement if they dont understand whats going on??? Of all the bodies in Croke park the CCCC are the only body that have the power to grant transfers but the higher body that is the CAC wont be impressed with a lower body throwing the case back their way again and they have already dealt with the matter and gave their decision.
Another tactic to delay Johnston. I know a few who werent comfortable with the transfer but now are backing johnston 100% because of the way he is been treated and the way this is been handled and draged out by croke park. This is ridiculous.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 29/05/2012 17:46:42    1183082

If this is accurate I'd just like to say well done to the cccc. Standing up for the gaa whilst others try and erode it with semi professionalism. Again well done cccc.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/05/2012 17:58:17    1183091

no bluedubstar the dubs were only on the way to beating kildare
up until eammon callaghan came back just like kevin mc and scored a fabulous goal leper (callaghan) then went on to level it.. so your saying dublin were better overall for 60min v kildare well so was kerry in the all ireland better than dublin for 60min kildare made a come back just like dublin last year v kerry so what are you saying did kerry deserve it more because they were better overall? or is it the comeback team?that deserve the victory..
because the only difference in the kildare comeback and the dublin comeback i see is
at the end of each game dublin got free's to win both games..
THATS WHAT HAPPENED GET OVER IT!

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 29/05/2012 18:09:56    1183101

royal you seem more worried about what they kildare players think or if seanie takes a kildare players place.
if i was you i would be more worried why a player like king walked away, worry about the goings on in meath.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 29/05/2012 18:32:14    1183117

royaldunne is just scared of wat seanie is goin 2 do 2 the meath full back line

brianfitzsimons (Kildare) - Posts: 223 - 29/05/2012 18:54:28    1183128

I think you don't know the rules, the CCCC cannot appeal the CAC desesion to the DRA. Only a club or county board can, the CCCC cannot.

Look you don't know wanting really know whats happing nor do Kfm nor do I, maybe you would be better to stop posting unwise posts and unfounded ones.

No one knows if SJ was contact by KCB, manger or backroom staff.

Look a lay out the facts the media have reported;

1. SJ tries to transfer to Kildare county, but to conuine to play with Cavan club. Everybody knows you can't do this.

2. SJ asks his Cavan club to go to the DRA, they refuse, because it could cost them up to €10,000.

3. SJ leaves his home club since birth and puts in 1st transfer to St. Kevin's club in Kildare.

4. CCCC refuse it, SJ & St Kevins appeal to CAC, they refuse it as well.

5. SJ & St Kevins don't go to DRA, but hand in new transfer addresing 1st transfer faults.
Where did St Kevins come from?

6. CCCC refuse it (under rule 6.1 and 6.9 of the Official Guide 2011), SJ & St Kevins appeal it to CAC.

7. CAC accept appeal as rule 6.10(b) is said to be signed off by CCB and CG club; again is this true or false, as CG said they objected to it, the trouble i think is what is an "objection" the CCCC have on idea, the CAC a second, people think he has the tranfer.

8. Only the CCCC can give transfers not the CAC nor the DRA, they can only sent it back to the committee charge- CCCC.



People going all about other transfers (which there are a lot), but a lot of people get work and move, get married and move, but it is clear to everybody that SJ didn't get married, get new work in Kildare, he basically has no reason to move. He is trying to use the rules backwards, upside-down; whatever way you want to put it. "Every transfer is totally different."

refegle (USA) - Posts: 27 - 29/05/2012 19:34:27    1183151

To be fair no intelligent comments coming from the Kildare fans that are excited about this transfer....to be fair any kildare person who has the capacity to understand this obviously believes its worng so it is only this lot here that are left to spout out these half wit comments of support

pigonastick (Dublin) - Posts: 487 - 29/05/2012 19:48:30    1183162

In fairness the genuine Kildare fans seem to be against the move.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 29/05/2012 19:55:56    1183170

To be fair pigonastick, all you have to do is look at your own counties hurling team. Couple of outsiders in therer too. And don't start blowing off about it being totally different because basically if its ethos everyone is worried about then its the very same. Both SJ and Ryan O'Dwyer have transferred to play with a different county which basically is against the ethos of the GAA.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 29/05/2012 20:11:26    1183194

no bluedubstar the dubs were only on the way to beating kildare
up until eammon callaghan came back just like kevin mc and scored a fabulous goal leper (callaghan) then went on to level it.. so your saying dublin were better overall for 60min v kildare well so was kerry in the all ireland better than dublin for 60min kildare made a come back just like dublin last year v kerry so what are you saying did kerry deserve it more because they were better overall? or is it the comeback team?that deserve the victory..
because the only difference in the kildare comeback and the dublin comeback i see is
at the end of each game dublin got free's to win both games..
THATS WHAT HAPPENED GET OVER IT!

Oh thats me in my place. When in doubht UPPERCASE it!

bluedubstar (Dublin) - Posts: 835 - 29/05/2012 20:16:38    1183203

I think these sort of comments painting everyone in Kildare with the same brush are fairly dangerous. From talking to the GAA people I know (who were mostly all against the transfer) I can tell you there's a danger that throwing out these broad insults they will end up being a self-fulfilling prophecy. What's the point in trying to defend it when everyone believes you were for it anyway? At some point people are going to get tired of being insulted and start forgetting the objections they had in the first place.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 29/05/2012 20:37:42    1183217

Oh NO DOUBT in my mind bluedubstar! :)

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 29/05/2012 20:55:44    1183240

They are not the same at all Sedico but if you read my 1st post I have said I am uncomfortable with Dublin hurlers picking players from another county who are eligible to play for Dublin.

I have also said I hope they change there policy on this with all the young talent coming through from the underage set up!

Like I said already I would not go see a Dublin football team with the likes of Brian Kavanagh, Michael Tierney and say COnor Mortimor playing in the full forward line even if they all wanted to play for Dublin, are resident here and playing for a dublin club!

That would ruin football for are entire country if players like these were tapped up for whatever reasons by Dublin...I have pride in our team and have stuck with them through thick and thin and would find no glory in a team of blow ins being drafted in just to win sam where is the pride in that!!

pigonastick (Dublin) - Posts: 487 - 29/05/2012 21:02:28    1183246

Starting to sound a bit like Man U/Liverpool in here, pointless bickering! I said in previous posts that Kildare will win Leinster, and I stick by it, but I expect to see the Dubs again in August, the 2nd meeting could turn out to be different, should be fun though!

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 29/05/2012 21:45:55    1183311

Now before everyone gets carried away and starts saying it's a disgrace and similar musings just think about it for more than 30 seconds.
Cavan as we're all aware got rid of Seanie and the player was left in no doubt that he was no longer needed by his county despite him being one of the most outstanding forwards in the country on his day,i remember watching a game on tv where he made graham canty look like a junior b footballer and i also heard he beat Wicklow by himself in a game a few years back when he came on as a sub!?

So this young man who has trained long and hard with his county for years perhaps even over a decade as i presume a player of his class was involved underage was cast aside and left on the scrapheap deprived of intercounty football.

Mc Geeney sees what's going on and is rightly horrified that such a dedicated and skilful player has been castaside and then realises Seanie now resides in Kildare so decides it would be in both Kildare and Seans best interests to offer him the lifeline of football with Kildare.

What this move from Mc Geeney and Kildare does is going to improve their squad and at the same time give a young man the chance to play the sport he loves at the level he deserves, much Respect to Mister Mc geeney and i for 1 shall be cheering the lilywhites on this Summer due to this!

smallballs (Monaghan) - Posts: 151 - 29/05/2012 21:46:41    1183312

smallballs you might want to look back over Seanies intercounty career.
He's shown himself to be less than 100% dedicated to the cause on a number of occasions.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 29/05/2012 21:52:45    1183319