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After watching today's match I have to say it is extremely obivious of Donegal tactics of fouling around the middle of the pitch. There were at least 5 occasions where a donegal player dragged back or held onto a fermanagh player then released him before a foul was given. Even when a foul was given no card was produced. Surely refs are going to have to clamp down on this as it is cynical play in slowing down the opposition. Anyone agree/disagree? kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 12/06/2016 16:51:46 1865517 Link
Fermanagh had a harsh black today if you compare some of the tackles that Donegal did .if this was Tyrone they be uproar Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 12/06/2016 19:19:15 1865634 Link
Replying To kevin03: "After watching today's match I have to say it is extremely obivious of Donegal tactics of fouling around the middle of the pitch. There were at least 5 occasions where a donegal player dragged back or held onto a fermanagh player then released him before a foul was given. Even when a foul was given no card was produced. Surely refs are going to have to clamp down on this as it is cynical play in slowing down the opposition. Anyone agree/disagree?" It's been alot of counties tactics for a few years now. Donegal no different. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/06/2016 20:11:30 1865700 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Fermanagh had a harsh black today if you compare some of the tackles that Donegal did .if this was Tyrone they be uproar" The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/06/2016 20:11:45 1865701 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Fermanagh had a harsh black today if you compare some of the tackles that Donegal did .if this was Tyrone they be uproar" Dell i presume you are talking about the che Cullen black card......under the letter of the law it was a black in my opinion, however you are a ref, would you have given it? What was your interruption off it? It is very difficult on refs to make decisions about this stupid black card. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/06/2016 20:15:52 1865710 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Dell i presume you are talking about the che Cullen black card......under the letter of the law it was a black in my opinion, however you are a ref, would you have given it? What was your interruption off it? It is very difficult on refs to make decisions about this stupid black card." I thought he caught him but I would not have gave black as it was more silly . But my point is Donegal players where worse in there tackles and deserved black cards more than the fermanagh man . Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 12/06/2016 20:24:26 1865718 Link
Donegal have been doing this for years. I find it hard to believe that anyone could only be noticing it now. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 12/06/2016 20:26:13 1865721 Link
Replying To MuckrossHead: "Donegal have been doing this for years. I find it hard to believe that anyone could only be noticing it now." I know they have been doing it for years but today it was blantly obivious. I mean there was no attempt to hide it. The amount of possible black cards that should have been given was a joke. Maurice always seems to be a soft ref that allows silly tackles to contuine. No offence but I have noticed this many of games he's been in kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 12/06/2016 21:32:25 1865780 Link
Replying To kevin03: "I know they have been doing it for years but today it was blantly obivious. I mean there was no attempt to hide it. The amount of possible black cards that should have been given was a joke. Maurice always seems to be a soft ref that allows silly tackles to contuine. No offence but I have noticed this many of games he's been in" Do you understand the black card rule? Although there was plenty of fouls today there was technically only one black card foul which was given. There was probably loads of verbal abuse black cards but these are very hard to marshall. In response to Donegal fouling systematically around the middle you'll find that most teams that are in the lead will do this. Your own county will also not be shy in systematic fouling. Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 12/06/2016 22:53:58 1865828 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "Do you understand the black card rule? Although there was plenty of fouls today there was technically only one black card foul which was given. There was probably loads of verbal abuse black cards but these are very hard to marshall. In response to Donegal fouling systematically around the middle you'll find that most teams that are in the lead will do this. Your own county will also not be shy in systematic fouling." Your wrong fermanagh defender dragged by both feet coming out of defence when trying to get to feet . The foul on Quigley dragged to ground both where black cards . Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 12/06/2016 23:08:48 1865843 Link
Replying To MuckrossHead: "Donegal have been doing this for years. I find it hard to believe that anyone could only be noticing it now." I know they have been doing it for years but today it was blantly obivious. I mean there was no attempt to hide it. The amount of possible black cards that should have been given was a joke. Maurice always seems to be a soft ref that allows silly tackles to contuine. No offence but I have noticed this many of games he's been in kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 12/06/2016 23:46:31 1865854 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "Do you understand the black card rule? Although there was plenty of fouls today there was technically only one black card foul which was given. There was probably loads of verbal abuse black cards but these are very hard to marshall. In response to Donegal fouling systematically around the middle you'll find that most teams that are in the lead will do this. Your own county will also not be shy in systematic fouling." Yes Tir Coniall I am familiar with the rules. It clearly states "Deliberately body collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of a movement of play." If you drag back an opponent does that not count as deliberately taking them out of play? Regardless of how you define the rules I cannot imagine you would be too happy if donegal were getting fouled liked this and not getting a free for it???? kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 12/06/2016 23:53:44 1865856 Link
Wouldn't agree that any donegal tackle today deserved black but i would agree that discipline in tackle today not what it used to be and that's a worry going into monaghan. I would see from today that under rory our main emphasis has become our forward strategy and the two goals were testiment to this - total training ground moves pulled off to perfection. Our defence however today would have been breeched on various occassions by better teams 2ndcumin (Donegal) - Posts: 22 - 13/06/2016 00:07:36 1865862 Link
Replying To kevin03: "Yes Tir Coniall I am familiar with the rules. It clearly states "Deliberately body collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of a movement of play." If you drag back an opponent does that not count as deliberately taking them out of play? Regardless of how you define the rules I cannot imagine you would be too happy if donegal were getting fouled liked this and not getting a free for it????" Read your own post. Deliberately body collide. .....to take a player out. It doesn't say anything about a drag or pull back. The only black card offence in this case is if you drag a player to the ground and Donegal didn't do that once today. You seem to be very anti Donegal. I was at the game today and Ryan Mc Hugh was constantly blocked off to take him out of the game with no protection and in the last few minutes Michael Murphy was also blocked off from making a run after passing. We can all pick incidents to suit our agenda. Neil Mc Gee got a deserved straight red yet I don't see too many mentioning the deliberate punch on Eamon Mc Gee which should also have been a red card. Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 13/06/2016 00:32:58 1865869 Link
If some of you are going to come on here and state that Donegal should have had several black cards yesterday then you need to know and explain two things... a) Show that you understand what exactly constitutes a black card b) explicitly discuss the 'black card offences' that you're so upset about and vaguely flinging around If memory serves me right, the black card actually arose from a Tyrone player's famous dragging to the ground of Conor McManus so people in glass house shouldn't throw stones. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 13/06/2016 05:33:32 1865889 Link
Replying To kevin03: "After watching today's match I have to say it is extremely obivious of Donegal tactics of fouling around the middle of the pitch. There were at least 5 occasions where a donegal player dragged back or held onto a fermanagh player then released him before a foul was given. Even when a foul was given no card was produced. Surely refs are going to have to clamp down on this as it is cynical play in slowing down the opposition. Anyone agree/disagree?" Rightly or wrongly every team does it. I'd call it tactical fouling. But if I was managing a team I wouldn't be discouraging it. Players are clever. If they see a referee who isn't clamping down on it then they'll continue to do it. Yes it's cynical but it's the way it is. I find it amusing that Tyrone posters are attenpting to climb up on some moral high horse on the matter though. Masters of this type of stuff themselves. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9135 - 13/06/2016 09:24:03 1865921 Link
All the top teams in the country use tactical fouling out around the middle of the pitch, unfortunately the black card hasn't helped to stamp it out. In general I feel Donegal's discipline in the tackle is not the same as it was under JMcG. Yesterday Thomas Corrigan scored 7 points from frees, this never happened under Jim. In short Donegal's tackling is poor in every area of the pitch. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 13/06/2016 09:57:22 1865944 Link
A thread that is started by a tyrone person with 16 posts, and 10 tyrone posters. No other county involved in this thread. Strange coincidence? Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/06/2016 11:59:49 1866060 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "A thread that is started by a tyrone person with 16 posts, and 10 tyrone posters. No other county involved in this thread. Strange coincidence?" Haha absolutely. Agenda clear for all to see. Bottom line is none of them have explained where the black cards specifically should have been given or why, they're all full of vague disgust. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 13/06/2016 14:00:36 1866162 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "Haha absolutely. Agenda clear for all to see. Bottom line is none of them have explained where the black cards specifically should have been given or why, they're all full of vague disgust." I thought I explained fermanagh defender fouled tried to get up Donegal man dragged both his feet back and to ground black card not giving .Quigley dragged to ground black card not giving .take off those tinted glasses Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 13/06/2016 15:57:59 1866247 Link