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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I have met many Kilkenny people who if you started talking about football would tell you they have no interest in the sport. Where as if you talked to a GAA man from a football county who never would have played hurling they would rarely make a point in the same way of putting down hurling.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts:306 - 16/04/2017 20:37:06 1979951


So you've met "many" Kilkenny people have ya? There's been Senior Football Championship running in Kilkenny since 1887. There are hundreds of players (at least) involved in football in Kilkenny; from senior down to school age teams. There are hundreds of more people in involved in organising and making sure these games happen. With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about"
I work in construction and have come across quiet a few Kilkenny people. I have been told by Kilkenny people when I have asked had they seen particular football matches that they had no interest in watching the football championship. The funny thing is with hundreds of players (at least) involved in football in Kilkenny if they bothered they could field a team of a similar standard to some of the lower ranked football counties. It is strange that only 1 if 32 counties don't field a team.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 17/04/2017 01:20:31    1980029

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In my personal opinion,and I know this is controversial,it's time for both games to go their separate ways altogether because it's the only way that hurling can really develop right across the country i.e. there should be a separate body altogether to promote hurling much like the Camanaiocht Association promotes shinty in Scotland.
While the Northern crowd mightn't like to hear this,the GAA has served it's purpose and it's time to move on.

Muilleann (Tipperary) - Posts: 114 - 18/04/2017 08:30:50    1980316

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Replying To Muilleann:  "In my personal opinion,and I know this is controversial,it's time for both games to go their separate ways altogether because it's the only way that hurling can really develop right across the country i.e. there should be a separate body altogether to promote hurling much like the Camanaiocht Association promotes shinty in Scotland.
While the Northern crowd mightn't like to hear this,the GAA has served it's purpose and it's time to move on."
Agree 100%, don't know how you would split up the grounds at dual clubs but it definitely needs to be done if hurling is to thrive.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 18/04/2017 16:43:22    1980512

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Hey.. I admit it I am one of those hurling snobs and take pride in it, it's a personal opinion, I just believe hurling as a skill level is superior to football, over the last 20 years or so I have watched only maybe 2 or 3 live football games and the last time I watched one , only reminded me again why I don't like this game and the GAA for the past twenty years or so have been making all kinds of rule changes to improve the game but it still is as dull as it ever was... to me hurling looks like it's a professional sport , football looks amateurish...

murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 19/04/2017 04:09:26    1980650

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The Kk u15 football development squad under the management of the great Dj traveled to Antrim at the weekend,theytook part in the Antrim cup and beat Antrim 3/10 to 7 points,I think KK are promoting football and its not treated with contempt as some here would have you believe.

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 533 - 24/04/2017 20:37:46    1982351

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Good to see Cavan back fielding a senior county hurling team again.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/04/2017 03:26:49    1982399

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Replying To murrax:  "Hey.. I admit it I am one of those hurling snobs and take pride in it, it's a personal opinion, I just believe hurling as a skill level is superior to football, over the last 20 years or so I have watched only maybe 2 or 3 live football games and the last time I watched one , only reminded me again why I don't like this game and the GAA for the past twenty years or so have been making all kinds of rule changes to improve the game but it still is as dull as it ever was... to me hurling looks like it's a professional sport , football looks amateurish..."
looks amateurish? Excuse me but hurling is the sport where lads just drive the ball up into the air and hope for the best. Very rarely you actually see a good pass in hurling just lad been chased down coming out of defense and he hoofs it long a big roar from the crowd as two lads run after it absolutely no skill level.

And its been a while since i seen 16points between the sides in any football match. Pathetic stuff

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 25/04/2017 09:06:02    1982422

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Replying To mooncat:  "The Kk u15 football development squad under the management of the great Dj traveled to Antrim at the weekend,theytook part in the Antrim cup and beat Antrim 3/10 to 7 points,I think KK are promoting football and its not treated with contempt as some here would have you believe."
That was Antrim's U14 footballers that KK beat, fair play to the lads for making the long trip up. Your U14 to U16 hurlers were in action in Antrim as well and only our U15s came away with a win. Your U16s were light years ahead of us , but we were relying on a number of boys who don't come to training and only turn up for matches after plea's from the mentors. Attitude of our clubs towards the Dev Squads is terrible.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 25/04/2017 10:44:32    1982465

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "looks amateurish? Excuse me but hurling is the sport where lads just drive the ball up into the air and hope for the best. Very rarely you actually see a good pass in hurling just lad been chased down coming out of defense and he hoofs it long a big roar from the crowd as two lads run after it absolutely no skill level.

And its been a while since i seen 16points between the sides in any football match. Pathetic stuff"
Yeah there is no skill whatsoever in hitting a small ball with a stick!! I suppose evading tackles, hitting a ball 80 metres into space for a forward to get the ball into his hand in a split second and score from the sideline. Absolutely no skill there.

You are certainly right compared to the skill levels in some football matches, where the corner back hand passes the ball to the wing back who looks up, see's open space and turns around to hand pass to the wing forward who is 10 yards behind him. He gets tackled so he passes to the corner back who feels sorry for the goalie and passes the ball back 20 yards to the goalie who then spreads the ball 10 yards to the other corner back and we are off again!!

You may not believe it but I appreciate good football but to say that there is no skill attached to hurling (I am guessing you mean in comparison to football. Apologies if I presume wrong).

In football, you can get away with a lower skill level if say you are a fast and tight-marking corner back (being a good man-marker is a skill in itself by the way), whereas in hurling, you are going nowhere if you don't have a skill level to match an opponent.

KK4Life (Kilkenny) - Posts: 56 - 25/04/2017 11:23:16    1982482

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500,000 for Kilkenny so they can play Gloucestshire!!!!

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 25/04/2017 12:58:23    1982511

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Replying To cuchulainn35:  "500,000 for Kilkenny so they can play Gloucestshire!!!!"
And you point is?

thesilverfox (Tipperary) - Posts: 94 - 25/04/2017 13:20:57    1982518

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i watched my first hurling game on tv in 3 years last sunday [ iv been to quite a few] , thats 70 minutes of my life ill never get back, boring sport is an understatement, but i respect lads who can see beauti in that mess of a sport, ll stick to the "real" genuine game

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 25/04/2017 13:27:36    1982521

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "looks amateurish? Excuse me but hurling is the sport where lads just drive the ball up into the air and hope for the best. Very rarely you actually see a good pass in hurling just lad been chased down coming out of defense and he hoofs it long a big roar from the crowd as two lads run after it absolutely no skill level.

And its been a while since i seen 16points between the sides in any football match. Pathetic stuff"
You not watch your own county against Dublin in the football league 4 weeks ago? Think that one ended with 21 points between the sides.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 25/04/2017 14:18:10    1982539

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Replying To Soma:  "You not watch your own county against Dublin in the football league 4 weeks ago? Think that one ended with 21 points between the sides."
And its been a while since i seen 16points between TOP TWO the sides in any football match. Pathetic stuff

Above in bold was meant to be in there.

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 25/04/2017 14:37:19    1982545

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I like football on the rare occasion when it's played well but the game as it's played now is becoming nigh-on unwatchable. Many decades ago, basketball introduced the 30-second shot clock and the ban on passing the ball back into your own half to stop teams playing "keep-ball" when they were ahead, because fans were becoming increasingly bored by the fare that was being served up. Gaelic football is at that point now.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 25/04/2017 15:20:18    1982559

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Replying To ballydalane:  "I like football on the rare occasion when it's played well but the game as it's played now is becoming nigh-on unwatchable. Many decades ago, basketball introduced the 30-second shot clock and the ban on passing the ball back into your own half to stop teams playing "keep-ball" when they were ahead, because fans were becoming increasingly bored by the fare that was being served up. Gaelic football is at that point now."
Fair enough i understand that but to me its even more frustrating watching hurling and lads banging the ball 80 yards back and forth and nobody actually trying too pick a pass. For all the bad press Gealic gets Hurling is in a poor state when you see the hammering even the top teams are now giving each other.

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 25/04/2017 16:16:44    1982581

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "Fair enough i understand that but to me its even more frustrating watching hurling and lads banging the ball 80 yards back and forth and nobody actually trying too pick a pass. For all the bad press Gealic gets Hurling is in a poor state when you see the hammering even the top teams are now giving each other."
Glad for your feed back on the hurling, much appreciated. Its obvious you don't like hurling for whatever reason, could you be looking over the neighbours fence and seeing his lovely car? I wouldn't be surprised if you ever played hurling, but given your feedback you must have played it as your knowledge of how it works is top notch.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 25/04/2017 16:41:27    1982590

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "Fair enough i understand that but to me its even more frustrating watching hurling and lads banging the ball 80 yards back and forth and nobody actually trying too pick a pass. For all the bad press Gealic gets Hurling is in a poor state when you see the hammering even the top teams are now giving each other."
Cuckoosinging you have a great username because you views are cuckoo. Football and hurling are two separate games so can we stop trying to bring football concepts into hurling? Picking out a pass? Do you realise that most hurlers can score a point from up to 90 yards out nowadays? Trying to pick out a pass is a recipe for disaster in hurling, as if it doesn't work out it's over your own crossbar in a second. In football if you give the ball away 60 yards or more out there's no problem. As a back in hurling your job is to win the ball and clear it as far back up the field as possible, all while avoiding being harried, hooked, blocked or overcarrying. The more balls that you rain down on the full back or half back line of the opposing team the more chances you have of getting a breaking ball and getting a scoring chance.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 25/04/2017 16:59:55    1982597

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Replying To Muilleann:  "In my personal opinion,and I know this is controversial,it's time for both games to go their separate ways altogether because it's the only way that hurling can really develop right across the country i.e. there should be a separate body altogether to promote hurling much like the Camanaiocht Association promotes shinty in Scotland.
While the Northern crowd mightn't like to hear this,the GAA has served it's purpose and it's time to move on."
The gaa is like one governing body over soccer and cricket...
As colm orourke wrote once, "hurling is like cricket to most football men"
So why have them football men over hurling

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 25/04/2017 18:53:03    1982628

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Excuse me but hurling is the sport where lads just drive the ball up into the air and hope for the best. Very rarely you actually see a good pass in hurling just lad been chased down coming out of defense and he hoofs it long a big roar from the crowd as two lads run after it absolutely no skill level.

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts:249 - 25/04/2017 09:06:02 1982422



So if hurling has "absolutely no skill level" why is it Roscommon, and plenty more counties, cant get 15 men to "just drive the ball up into the air and hope for the best" like Tipperary, Galway and Kilkenny do?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2474 - 25/04/2017 20:47:47    1982667

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