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Replying To .tribute: " Replying To TheUsername: "The European Court of Justice made a precedental decision concerning freedom of movement for workers (specifically sport ptofessional), freedom of association, and direct effect of article 39[2 (formerly 48) of the EC Treaty. I.e. its illegal to restrict a professional sport professionals from moving to another county if their contract with their existing county has been fulfilled. Fundamentally, once a professional sportsperson has fulfilled his contract he is entitled to sign another one with a different county under Eu law." Its a GAA contract. Not a County. He can freely move to another organisation when the contract is up. He is contracted to the GAA and therefore has to follow their rules."]Spot on. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 10/03/2017 16:18:31 1966025 Link
Replying To .tribute: "Get on your first flight out of Dublin mate. Your stuck in a rut there. Plenty of the world to see. You just might be afraid not to go back" So it is true there is one born every minute, here little fishy fishy Too easy Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 10/03/2017 16:56:32 1966034 Link
Professionalism will take the GAA on to the next level alright, that level will be the beginning of the end, mark my words. Play for passion or don't play at all. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 10/03/2017 18:23:30 1966048 Link
Replying To realdub: "Professionalism will take the GAA on to the next level alright, that level will be the beginning of the end, mark my words. Play for passion or don't play at all." Couldn't agree more , the sport would survive in some guise of a sort , but it would not be anything at all like it is now , corporate sponsorship will pay the wages well it certainly wouldn't be taken in at the gate that's for sure. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 10/03/2017 21:09:16 1966070 Link
when people talk about paying players is that for club or inter-county? Both I assume. Paying players would include allowing new arrivals to Ireland looking for work which would really drive the competition skyward, that is good I suppose. GAA could employ a hundred thousand people. Interesting times ahead no doubt. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1672 - 10/03/2017 21:45:23 1966072 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "when people talk about paying players is that for club or inter-county? Both I assume. Paying players would include allowing new arrivals to Ireland looking for work which would really drive the competition skyward, that is good I suppose. GAA could employ a hundred thousand people. Interesting times ahead no doubt." Mercenaries yep that's the future some would love , suppose everything has its price , we struggle to get foreign nationals to play our wonderful game for free but if your paid ahhhh Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 10/03/2017 22:17:07 1966082 Link
Professionalism will take the GAA on to the next level alright, that level will be the beginning of the end, mark my words. Play for passion or don't play at all. realdub (Dublin) - Posts:5620 - 10/03/2017 18:23:30What exactly is passion anyway?? And professionals are passionate as well. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 11/03/2017 11:30:13 1966128 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "Professionalism will take the GAA on to the next level alright, that level will be the beginning of the end, mark my words. Play for passion or don't play at all. realdub (Dublin) - Posts:5620 - 10/03/2017 18:23:30What exactly is passion anyway?? And professionals are passionate as well." Strange contradictory comment neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 11/03/2017 12:39:28 1966145 Link
Passion, it's like love, it's unconditional. I don't watch the Premier league anymore, and haven't in maybe 10/15 years, why? No passion, I can't see it. If you still don't understand, I can't help explain it anymore to you. The rugby lads in fairness still show it despite money entering their game but that's because of the 'manly' nature of the game and you wouldn't dare be seen not busting a gut. Just my opinion, you don't have to agree. Can never see it working. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 11/03/2017 12:55:28 1966147 Link
Replying To realdub: "Passion, it's like love, it's unconditional. I don't watch the Premier league anymore, and haven't in maybe 10/15 years, why? No passion, I can't see it. If you still don't understand, I can't help explain it anymore to you. The rugby lads in fairness still show it despite money entering their game but that's because of the 'manly' nature of the game and you wouldn't dare be seen not busting a gut. Just my opinion, you don't have to agree. Can never see it working." Theres passion in Irish rugby because most players that play for for leinster or munster or ulster and connaught are from those provinces. Be the same with my idea..professional players will be from their home county .tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 11/03/2017 14:32:10 1966157 Link
Strange contradictory comment neverright (Roscommon) - Posts:666 - 11/03/2017 12:39:28Is it? How? Passion, it's like love, it's unconditional. I don't watch the Premier league anymore, and haven't in maybe 10/15 years, why? No passion, I can't see it. If you still don't understand, I can't help explain it anymore to you. The rugby lads in fairness still show it despite money entering their game but that's because of the 'manly' nature of the game and you wouldn't dare be seen not busting a gut. Just my opinion, you don't have to agree. Can never see it working. realdub (Dublin) - Posts:5621 - 11/03/2017 12:55:28 How is there no pashion in premier league? What exactly defines passion? What makes up pashion? Other than your cliched version of what pashion is? Theres passion in Irish rugby because most players that play for for leinster or munster or ulster and connaught are from those provinces. Be the same with my idea..professional players will be from their home county .tribute (Cavan) - Posts:311 - 11/03/2017 14:32:10 Key is most. You cant restrict employment in the way you are suggesting. If GAA tried do as you propose they could easily be taken to labour court about prevention of freedom of movement in work. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 11/03/2017 16:46:57 1966182 Link
Rugby has only 4 professional teams on the island. The GAA could only go professional on inter-provincial level: Dublin, North Leinster, South Leinster, Ulster, Connaught and Munster. It'll obviously never happen. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 11/03/2017 16:52:54 1966183 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "Strange contradictory comment neverright (Roscommon) - Posts:666 - 11/03/2017 12:39:28Is it? How? Passion, it's like love, it's unconditional. I don't watch the Premier league anymore, and haven't in maybe 10/15 years, why? No passion, I can't see it. If you still don't understand, I can't help explain it anymore to you. The rugby lads in fairness still show it despite money entering their game but that's because of the 'manly' nature of the game and you wouldn't dare be seen not busting a gut. Just my opinion, you don't have to agree. Can never see it working. realdub (Dublin) - Posts:5621 - 11/03/2017 12:55:28 How is there no pashion in premier league? What exactly defines passion? What makes up pashion? Other than your cliched version of what pashion is? Theres passion in Irish rugby because most players that play for for leinster or munster or ulster and connaught are from those provinces. Be the same with my idea..professional players will be from their home county .tribute (Cavan) - Posts:311 - 11/03/2017 14:32:10 Key is most. You cant restrict employment in the way you are suggesting. If GAA tried do as you propose they could easily be taken to labour court about prevention of freedom of movement in work." Touche cliche whatever you think yourself lad. I don't see or feel it, each to their own sure I'm probably completely wrong, but this being a forum, I am entitled to say what I think, just as you are. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 11/03/2017 17:47:20 1966197 Link
The money coming into the GAA is huge This is off the back of the elite players and the standard they've brought the game to, they have quite a bit of worth, they are house hold names, a very advantageous quality for advertisers Top players now have every opportunity to significantly cash in. They own their image rights etc Many top players are already making big money, once this continues and in time expands, I think they'll be happy enough, I can't see the GAA ever paying players, but that doesn't mean said players aren't currently making a lot of money by playing GAA jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 11/03/2017 23:04:11 1966277 Link
Touche cliche whatever you think yourself lad. I don't see or feel it, each to their own sure I'm probably completely wrong, but this being a forum, I am entitled to say what I think, just as you are. realdub (Dublin) I agree with you and I do not watch for the reasons you have said-total bore. Just because you pay someone it does not mean they perform better. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 12/03/2017 11:53:46 1966336 Link
Replying To browncows: "Touche cliche whatever you think yourself lad. I don't see or feel it, each to their own sure I'm probably completely wrong, but this being a forum, I am entitled to say what I think, just as you are. realdub (Dublin) I agree with you and I do not watch for the reasons you have said-total bore. Just because you pay someone it does not mean they perform better." There's plenty of passion below the top half of the Premier League down through the leagues from players and supporters. Watch Bournemouth v West Ham yesterday to see some football passion. Partly inspired by a fear of relegation and a chance of missing out on loads of cash probably. But still playing with passion and pride in their, current, jersey, compared to many players on rockstar wages playing for the top clubs just going through the motions. Not all intercounty players would turn fulltime professional I reckon. Many are very happy in their studies and jobs and GAA is their passion. Outside of families and friends it's their love. Going fulltime pro means that it's now their job. No training or games with friends as a break and distraction from work, family, etc. It'll be serious business. Will suit many but not all of the current players. Maybe going part-time and then fulltime professional later if it's sustainable for the GAA is the way to go. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7363 - 12/03/2017 12:21:47 1966346 Link
Replying To browncows: "Touche cliche whatever you think yourself lad. I don't see or feel it, each to their own sure I'm probably completely wrong, but this being a forum, I am entitled to say what I think, just as you are. realdub (Dublin) I agree with you and I do not watch for the reasons you have said-total bore. Just because you pay someone it does not mean they perform better." There's plenty of passion below the top half of the Premier League down through the leagues from players and supporters. Watch Bournemouth v West Ham yesterday to see some football passion. Partly inspired by a fear of relegation and a chance of missing out on loads of cash probably. But still playing with passion and pride in their, current, jersey, compared to many players on rockstar wages playing for the top clubs just going through the motions. Not all intercounty players would turn fulltime professional I reckon. Many are very happy in their studies and jobs and GAA is their passion. Outside of families and friends it's their love. Going fulltime pro means that it's now their job. No training or games with friends as a break and distraction from work, family, etc. It'll be serious business. Will suit many but not all of the current players. Maybe going part-time and then fulltime professional later if it's sustainable for the GAA is the way to go. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7363 - 12/03/2017 13:08:14 1966356 Link
It's not for the GAA, never work in a million years, leave it be, or don't play, your choice. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 12/03/2017 13:32:56 1966361 Link
Touche cliche whatever you think yourself lad. I don't see or feel it, each to their own sure I'm probably completely wrong, but this being a forum, I am entitled to say what I think, just as you are. realdub (Dublin) - Posts:5625 - 11/03/2017 17:47:20you are perfectly entitled to say what you like but care to expand on how exactly they dont show passion.. How is there no passion in premier league? What is passion? ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 12/03/2017 17:19:44 1966428 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "Touche cliche whatever you think yourself lad. I don't see or feel it, each to their own sure I'm probably completely wrong, but this being a forum, I am entitled to say what I think, just as you are. realdub (Dublin) - Posts:5625 - 11/03/2017 17:47:20you are perfectly entitled to say what you like but care to expand on how exactly they dont show passion.. How is there no passion in premier league? What is passion?" OK, this is MY take on passion (sports) Putting the body on the line for your team Loyalty to your jersey hence putting your body on the line, how is a player who jumps from club to club supposed to feel any loyalty to anyone? Sitting on the bench for most of the season without the comfort of 100,000s still being lodged in your bank account Roy Keane had passion, so did Gerrard (he never had to move club which helped) Most of them would be more concerned about their hair style being tossed or how they performed as an individual on the pitch as opposed to how they assisted their team. Just my take on it, I'm sure you have yours. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 12/03/2017 18:34:04 1966453 Link