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In second gear yesterday with a lot of their players missing strolled past Clare. Give the cup to Tipp now it's over already. No one will stop them this year. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 06/03/2017 11:56:55 1964465 Link
Tipp were missing Callanan, Bonar, Gleeson and all last years full back line 'plus Michael Breen only a sub so their squad is very strong. Clare to be fair also missing Kelly, McGrath, McInerney, Galvin, O Donnell and O Connor. Yep Tipp look very good but there are 2/3 teams who could beat them. They are the best at moment, and favs for the big one again but to say they are unbeatable is nonsense. Clareman (Clare) - Posts: 1056 - 06/03/2017 13:23:30 1964547 Link
Replying To Clareman: "Tipp were missing Callanan, Bonar, Gleeson and all last years full back line 'plus Michael Breen only a sub so their squad is very strong. Clare to be fair also missing Kelly, McGrath, McInerney, Galvin, O Donnell and O Connor. Yep Tipp look very good but there are 2/3 teams who could beat them. They are the best at moment, and favs for the big one again but to say they are unbeatable is nonsense." I agree it's still March and this talk of Tipp in the media hyping us up is complete nonsense. Comparing us to the Dubs footballers is ridiculous. Fair enough we have good hurlers I don't doubt their ability but it's an open championship. We are getting more hype than Kilkenny ever did in their prime and they won Year after Year because they kept feet on the ground and eye on the prize. Only when this Tipp team win 2 r 3 in a row should they be compared to the best hurling team and football team in the country. This malarkey in past had led to good Tipp teams being completely dismantled within 2 to 3 years of Winning an all Ireland. I hate to say it but I'm not confident we will hold onto Liam McCarthy in 2017. I'm very bold in my predictions here of Tipp hurling the past few years but I have actually zero confidence of them winning when we are red hot favourites. Can't be faulted going to games for nearly 28 years and in that time I only witnessed all Ireland's in 89,91,01,10 and 16.Losses from 97,09,11 & 14.Plus the countless semi finals and quarter final losses during those times in Munster and All Ireland series. There are 10 year old kids in Kilkenny who have seen more all Ireland wins than most of us in Tipp. Clare,Galway,Waterford & Kilkenny are more than capable of beating Tipp this year come the championship. I'd always be wary of Cork and Limerick they never make it comfortable for Tipp and you'd never know always can take a scalp when least expected. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 06/03/2017 20:26:23 1964800 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "I agree it's still March and this talk of Tipp in the media hyping us up is complete nonsense. Comparing us to the Dubs footballers is ridiculous. Fair enough we have good hurlers I don't doubt their ability but it's an open championship. We are getting more hype than Kilkenny ever did in their prime and they won Year after Year because they kept feet on the ground and eye on the prize. Only when this Tipp team win 2 r 3 in a row should they be compared to the best hurling team and football team in the country. This malarkey in past had led to good Tipp teams being completely dismantled within 2 to 3 years of Winning an all Ireland. I hate to say it but I'm not confident we will hold onto Liam McCarthy in 2017. I'm very bold in my predictions here of Tipp hurling the past few years but I have actually zero confidence of them winning when we are red hot favourites. Can't be faulted going to games for nearly 28 years and in that time I only witnessed all Ireland's in 89,91,01,10 and 16.Losses from 97,09,11 & 14.Plus the countless semi finals and quarter final losses during those times in Munster and All Ireland series. There are 10 year old kids in Kilkenny who have seen more all Ireland wins than most of us in Tipp. Clare,Galway,Waterford & Kilkenny are more than capable of beating Tipp this year come the championship. I'd always be wary of Cork and Limerick they never make it comfortable for Tipp and you'd never know always can take a scalp when least expected." thank god someone finally posted something sensible!! juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 06/03/2017 22:40:48 1964857 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "In second gear yesterday with a lot of their players missing strolled past Clare. Give the cup to Tipp now it's over already. No one will stop them this year." Are they a bigger certainty than Dublin in the Football? I say NO and the bookies agree wholeheartedly with that KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 06/03/2017 23:49:33 1964880 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "In second gear yesterday with a lot of their players missing strolled past Clare. Give the cup to Tipp now it's over already. No one will stop them this year." April 1st is a while away yet and the championship itself further away. There are 8 other teams more than capable of winning the Liam McCarthy Cup this year. As usual we have a bum draw in Munster that lessens our chances. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 06/03/2017 23:57:08 1964882 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "I agree it's still March and this talk of Tipp in the media hyping us up is complete nonsense. Comparing us to the Dubs footballers is ridiculous. Fair enough we have good hurlers I don't doubt their ability but it's an open championship. We are getting more hype than Kilkenny ever did in their prime and they won Year after Year because they kept feet on the ground and eye on the prize. Only when this Tipp team win 2 r 3 in a row should they be compared to the best hurling team and football team in the country. This malarkey in past had led to good Tipp teams being completely dismantled within 2 to 3 years of Winning an all Ireland. I hate to say it but I'm not confident we will hold onto Liam McCarthy in 2017. I'm very bold in my predictions here of Tipp hurling the past few years but I have actually zero confidence of them winning when we are red hot favourites. Can't be faulted going to games for nearly 28 years and in that time I only witnessed all Ireland's in 89,91,01,10 and 16.Losses from 97,09,11 & 14.Plus the countless semi finals and quarter final losses during those times in Munster and All Ireland series. There are 10 year old kids in Kilkenny who have seen more all Ireland wins than most of us in Tipp. Clare,Galway,Waterford & Kilkenny are more than capable of beating Tipp this year come the championship. I'd always be wary of Cork and Limerick they never make it comfortable for Tipp and you'd never know always can take a scalp when least expected." I've been aboard that rollercoaster ride with you too WildPundit. I think 2007 was the low point with the likes of 2013, 1993 and 1990 not too far behind. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/03/2017 00:01:08 1964887 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "I've been aboard that rollercoaster ride with you too WildPundit. I think 2007 was the low point with the likes of 2013, 1993 and 1990 not too far behind." Too many to think of Killarney. Think I was at more football matches between 93 & 99 than hurling!! Got to 3 Munster Finals lol!!! WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/03/2017 11:57:13 1964977 Link
Some of those football Munster finals were painful experiences. 1995 versus Limerick in the hurling was tough going too, to lose by a point in a cliffhanger and you're gone for the season. They were two of the best teams that year and both were out of the championship by early July. We've had some very barren spells between all-Ireland successes. The media and other counties are talking us up for a big fall later in the year. Ironically, the only ones who aren't talking Tipp up are Tipp supporters. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/03/2017 14:08:08 1965023 Link
Tipperary' hurling history has absolutely nothing got to do with it , this team right now is way ahead of the rest , when Kilkenny were good i said the exact same thing that they wouldn't be beaten and they never were. I don't know if you's haven't notice but you's could possibly have the greatest full forward line of all time in Bubbles Callahan J McGrath these lads are lethal add in Noel McGrath Bonner O Brien and for me Tipp are not going to be bet. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 07/03/2017 14:35:40 1965037 Link
Going on what we've seen so far this year it is going to be very difficult to stop Tipp. A lot of hurling left to play though! MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 07/03/2017 14:55:20 1965050 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Tipperary' hurling history has absolutely nothing got to do with it , this team right now is way ahead of the rest , when Kilkenny were good i said the exact same thing that they wouldn't be beaten and they never were. I don't know if you's haven't notice but you's could possibly have the greatest full forward line of all time in Bubbles Callahan J McGrath these lads are lethal add in Noel McGrath Bonner O Brien and for me Tipp are not going to be bet." I'm glad you are so excited about this Tipp team. It's the 7th of March though and a lot will happen over the next six months. Winning back to back titles is very difficult to achieve. We haven't done it since 1964 and 1965. Galway are the only team outside of Cork and Kilkenny to win back to back titles since the 1966 championship. The great teams that Offaly and Clare produced won more than one all-Ireland but not back to back. Limerick came close 1974 and Offaly in 1995. Maybe after 50 years of false dawns Tipp folk aren't getting carried away, especially when we are constantly told that we only win one a decade. It's very premature to be comparing this team to the 1960s Tipp team never mind the Sheflin, Delaney, Walsh, Fennelly, Larkin generation of Kilkenny greats. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/03/2017 17:12:44 1965141 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Tipperary' hurling history has absolutely nothing got to do with it , this team right now is way ahead of the rest , when Kilkenny were good i said the exact same thing that they wouldn't be beaten and they never were. I don't know if you's haven't notice but you's could possibly have the greatest full forward line of all time in Bubbles Callahan J McGrath these lads are lethal add in Noel McGrath Bonner O Brien and for me Tipp are not going to be bet." Wow you predicted Kilkenny wouldn't be beaten. Hardly a massive call considering they were odds on most years. Tipp red hot favourites too so you will hardly be a rocket scientist if they go all the way this year. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 07/03/2017 18:24:09 1965176 Link
Tipp will not win the all Ireland, to many good teams around now and this crazy talk about KK. I will not be surprised to see KK lifting Liam but still have Galway as my favourites. We only scrapped past them last year without big Joe for the second half. therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 07/03/2017 18:53:26 1965186 Link
Tipp will win this year. NO doubt about it. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 07/03/2017 19:32:08 1965209 Link
whether they will or not is another question....but tipp are the team to beat that is for sure. they are ahead of the chasing pack but i still think its going to be a close run championship. im sticking my money on my own county to end the famine...and no i dont need reminding of last years munster final or the league this year...just need a bit of luck and tipp to have a bit of an off day juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 07/03/2017 19:41:58 1965217 Link
Replying To juniorjudge: "whether they will or not is another question....but tipp are the team to beat that is for sure. they are ahead of the chasing pack but i still think its going to be a close run championship. im sticking my money on my own county to end the famine...and no i dont need reminding of last years munster final or the league this year...just need a bit of luck and tipp to have a bit of an off day" Could be a Galway V Waterford final or Clare V Waterford it really is wide open so Tipp and KK could be gone or could meet each other in a semi final. therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 07/03/2017 20:26:42 1965241 Link
Replying To therealtmo: "Could be a Galway V Waterford final or Clare V Waterford it really is wide open so Tipp and KK could be gone or could meet each other in a semi final." i do agree with that...but i also say whoever can topple the premier deserves it...and no im not writing off kk...but tipp are the team to beat...they thoroughly deserve their favourites tag juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 07/03/2017 20:56:46 1965262 Link
Replying To juniorjudge: "i do agree with that...but i also say whoever can topple the premier deserves it...and no im not writing off kk...but tipp are the team to beat...they thoroughly deserve their favourites tag" No one would begrudge Waterford or Galway an all Ireland in this day and age. Personally it would be good for hurling. I'd add Limerick and Dublin to that list too. Far too long for those hurling mad counties not to have won all Ireland's since 40s 50s 70s and 80s. I know Offaly,Wexford haven't won since mid 90s but there a bit behind challenging just yet. Great to see the yellow bellies on way back up counties like Offaly Laois Kerry Antrim Westmeath Carlow need top hurling managers to get them to a level where Wexford are now starting to reap rewards from a top level appointment. Can't wait for championship to start already and even Christy Ring cup could be a tight affair again this year. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/03/2017 22:06:50 1965289 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "No one would begrudge Waterford or Galway an all Ireland in this day and age. Personally it would be good for hurling. I'd add Limerick and Dublin to that list too. Far too long for those hurling mad counties not to have won all Ireland's since 40s 50s 70s and 80s. I know Offaly,Wexford haven't won since mid 90s but there a bit behind challenging just yet. Great to see the yellow bellies on way back up counties like Offaly Laois Kerry Antrim Westmeath Carlow need top hurling managers to get them to a level where Wexford are now starting to reap rewards from a top level appointment. Can't wait for championship to start already and even Christy Ring cup could be a tight affair again this year." good synopsis there wildp juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 07/03/2017 22:11:26 1965290 Link