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Replying To jimbodub: "Not a cent of which is spent on the Dublin senior football team. By the way Check out the free count in Tyrone's favour It was something like 32 to 16 in favour of Tyrone Tyrone kicked 8-9 wides with a strong wind advantage in the first half But yeah.. Your crack pot conspiracy theories is the way to go I bow to your superior intellect" Oooooooh I wonder if Royal7 is Rachel???? Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 19/02/2017 07:14:37 1958121 Link
When you hear Jayo claim that not 1 of the Dublin coaching staff are paid you know these figures are pure guesswork and that there's huge amounts of spending unaccounted for. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 19/02/2017 08:23:33 1958125 Link
Replying To baire: "What was the travel cost for the Dubs compared to Mayo?" Well last weekend dublin minors travelled to Mayo for a challange game , minor hurlers travelled to Cork as did an under 17s team and under 17 footballers were in Carlow , diesel costs , yesterday minor hurlers in Tipperary , Wednesday in Waterford and next weekend in limerick , so the fact senior footballers play mainly in HQ should not distract from serious travel costs as a dual county with many teams on the go. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 19/02/2017 10:10:25 1958147 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "39 frees for Tyrone to Dublin's 15 , sorry for interrupting just thought I'd give you the correct tally of frees. Continue on......" What has this got to do with funding - so what if Dubs foul more than Tyrone - this is a funding debate? IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 19/02/2017 10:44:47 1958161 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Not a cent of which is spent on the Dublin senior football team. By the way Check out the free count in Tyrone's favour It was something like 32 to 16 in favour of Tyrone Tyrone kicked 8-9 wides with a strong wind advantage in the first half But yeah.. Your crack pot conspiracy theories is the way to go I bow to your superior intellect" Spot on Jimbo. In fact I think Tyrone were awarded closer to 40 frees but your let the Meath man moan...! I seem to recall an All Ireland Final v Mayo with a similar free count. And if you remember people were moaning before that game that the ref was too close to the Dubs and reffing Dublin A v B games. I would go as far as to suggest that the free count in most Dublin games is in our opponents favour but sure let the anti Dubs out there continue to say we get the majority of the rub of the green where refereeing decisions go. .... Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 19/02/2017 10:46:02 1958162 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Can't wait to read Ewan McKenna's next article on Mayo's big spending.. wha!! Listen no doubt there's money being spent on coaching n Dublin, but that investment doesn't get spent on the Dublin senior football team. In reality Mayo have been bailed out by the GAA after the McHale Park fiasco, saving Mayo GAA €5 million over the course of the loan, does anyone else find that a little distasteful? Bailed out to the tune of €5 million, yet still spending big off the back of it! Hardly fair is it? :) hardly a level playing ground!! Sorry but Mayo have now spent many millions on this team and now lead the pack on spending It proves that money doesn't guarantee success, it helps, it puts all the best gear at your feet, but just like owning a set of expensive golf clubs, they are of no use without a good swing!!" Owning a set of expensive golf clubs.... No use without a good swing.... I love it Jimbo. Well said. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 19/02/2017 10:48:14 1958163 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "Well last weekend dublin minors travelled to Mayo for a challange game , minor hurlers travelled to Cork as did an under 17s team and under 17 footballers were in Carlow , diesel costs , yesterday minor hurlers in Tipperary , Wednesday in Waterford and next weekend in limerick , so the fact senior footballers play mainly in HQ should not distract from serious travel costs as a dual county with many teams on the go." Exactly Damo Some of our country posters think Dublin only have 1 team - Senior Football team. Selective biased posting...! Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 19/02/2017 10:56:06 1958165 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "39 frees for Tyrone to Dublin's 15 , sorry for interrupting just thought I'd give you the correct tally of frees. Continue on......" Does that not mean that ye fouled more than twice as often as Tyrone- surely that is nothing to be proud off!, or am I missing something in the point you are making. In fairness to the Dubs they do travel better than most counties -them there Subaru's are great cars!- the big Forrester is good too! browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/02/2017 11:26:07 1958170 Link
Replying To browncows: "Does that not mean that ye fouled more than twice as often as Tyrone- surely that is nothing to be proud off!, or am I missing something in the point you are making. In fairness to the Dubs they do travel better than most counties -them there Subaru's are great cars!- the big Forrester is good too!" Subaru's are great cars....???? I wouldnt take one even if I got it for free....! Some free steaks from Kepak, now that is another thing. ...! Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 19/02/2017 11:44:51 1958178 Link
Replying To royal7: "Yeah they spent more ..and Dublin still get way more funding than any county ..cork have double the amount of clubs than dublin but gaa gives them 5 times more than cork ..get over yourselves trying to justify the most unfair sport in the world. Not all about money players still have to perform but was there not a 15 year drought before funding. But what's really helping is the decisions. Dublins are gaa,s cash cow and that's why ridiculous frees like the one last week in tyrone match was given..no free atall but I'm sure yez will try justify that one too" Its one thing to moan about Dublin riches and their vast account book but it is really giving conspiracy theories a bad name by suggesting the GAA and the ref conspired to give Dublin a free!! arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 19/02/2017 11:45:40 1958179 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "Well last weekend dublin minors travelled to Mayo for a challange game , minor hurlers travelled to Cork as did an under 17s team and under 17 footballers were in Carlow , diesel costs , yesterday minor hurlers in Tipperary , Wednesday in Waterford and next weekend in limerick , so the fact senior footballers play mainly in HQ should not distract from serious travel costs as a dual county with many teams on the go." Cmon now Damo. You already started a war on the Carlow board over those u17s. Some poor chap from Laois got banned off the board and had to assume a new identity apparently. Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 19/02/2017 11:46:32 1958180 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Exactly Damo Some of our country posters think Dublin only have 1 team - Senior Football team. Selective biased posting...!" and yesterday Cork hosted Dublin Camogie Minors and Seniors, Dublin Senior Hurlers and today Ladies Footballers, all these codes spend all their available money/funding on the game and on player development rather than white elephant stadiums with tumbleweed blowing though them 360 days of the year or pi-in-the-sky centres of excellence. Dublin is virtually keeping Abbotstown afloat as a lot of clubs screaming out for infrastructure are forced to use expensive facilities as do the county development squads and it is good money after bad. And any night I am there you see plenty of county teams training from everywhere, county teams use my clubs gym, county team players based in Dublin train with our club teams. The point is some awful ignorant rubbish written about Dublin GAA. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 19/02/2017 12:00:22 1958182 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Not a cent of which is spent on the Dublin senior football team. By the way Check out the free count in Tyrone's favour It was something like 32 to 16 in favour of Tyrone Tyrone kicked 8-9 wides with a strong wind advantage in the first half But yeah.. Your crack pot conspiracy theories is the way to go I bow to your superior intellect" So the massive funding dublin have got for all their full time coaching in the last 15 years has nothing to do with the current senior team? achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 19/02/2017 12:00:52 1958183 Link
Replying To arock: "and yesterday Cork hosted Dublin Camogie Minors and Seniors, Dublin Senior Hurlers and today Ladies Footballers, all these codes spend all their available money/funding on the game and on player development rather than white elephant stadiums with tumbleweed blowing though them 360 days of the year or pi-in-the-sky centres of excellence. Dublin is virtually keeping Abbotstown afloat as a lot of clubs screaming out for infrastructure are forced to use expensive facilities as do the county development squads and it is good money after bad. And any night I am there you see plenty of county teams training from everywhere, county teams use my clubs gym, county team players based in Dublin train with our club teams. The point is some awful ignorant rubbish written about Dublin GAA." Well said...! Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 19/02/2017 12:21:18 1958185 Link
Replying To achara: "So the massive funding dublin have got for all their full time coaching in the last 15 years has nothing to do with the current senior team?" Only 15 players can take the pitch That funding has nothing to do with Bernard Brogan, Paul Flynn, Kev Mac, Cluxton, Connolly, Philly, O'Sullivan, EOG, Denis B, Brian Cullen, etc etc etc etc What do you think coaching over such a short space of time brings? You can't coach a donkey to be a race horse. In fact have you ever heard of over coaching.. an epidemic being blamed for many problems in the soccer world So to answer your question, it's impossible to give an answer, so how can you be so sure exactly? Or is it just an easy excuse to peddle as fact to hide a bitterness to Dublin's success.. now that's a far easier question to answer in my book. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 19/02/2017 12:31:49 1958187 Link
Fact is Mayo have spent millions and won nothing since Horan really upped their approach from 2011 onwards Mayo GAA were bailed out by the GAA, saving themselves millions Yet are still spending big even over Dublin now, bailed out by the association allowing themselves the opportunity to spend big If they can afford to spend such sizeable figures on one team! Why can't they afford to pay off their ridiculously bloated white elephant? Why is this point not a bigger deal? I mean if it's about fairness, how come this is not a bigger issue? It's not just about spending big though That's why Dublin has 8 National titles to Mayo's Zero National titles in the same time frame You can have all the fancy gear, you can have the best of this and that, but it's worthless without the quality You can coach a donkey to be a race horse jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 19/02/2017 12:43:09 1958189 Link
Replying To Jack_Sparrow: "Cmon now Damo. You already started a war on the Carlow board over those u17s. Some poor chap from Laois got banned off the board and had to assume a new identity apparently." Hope it was onion breath , ha ha wouldn't mind I went on to their site to congratulate them , fool me Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 19/02/2017 12:50:13 1958193 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Fact is Mayo have spent millions and won nothing since Horan really upped their approach from 2011 onwards Mayo GAA were bailed out by the GAA, saving themselves millions Yet are still spending big even over Dublin now, bailed out by the association allowing themselves the opportunity to spend big If they can afford to spend such sizeable figures on one team! Why can't they afford to pay off their ridiculously bloated white elephant? Why is this point not a bigger deal? I mean if it's about fairness, how come this is not a bigger issue? It's not just about spending big though That's why Dublin has 8 National titles to Mayo's Zero National titles in the same time frame You can have all the fancy gear, you can have the best of this and that, but it's worthless without the quality You can coach a donkey to be a race horse" less of the insult's there please jimbo. whatever money Mayo spend on our team's ( and we do have other team's, our u21 footballer's won the all Ireland this year and our u21 hurler's were involved too, 62% of the overall money was spent on the senior team) is raised off our own bat, apart from the few quid we get from the gaa. as regard's the money we got off the gaa for MacHale park, the loan was restructured, every penny of that money still has to be repaid to the gaa. how many people and business's up and down the country have got mortgage's's and loan's restructured over the last number of year's so it's no different for Mayo gaa. And as regard's it being a white elephant, it's the only stand in the country that's full for every league game Mayo play there, per head of capita we are the best supported team in the country for the past 20 year's, we're not spending tax payer's money on our team's, it's money that's raised mostly from within the county and i have absolutely no problem with that. glasagusdhearg (Mayo) - Posts: 55 - 19/02/2017 13:26:35 1958204 Link
Replying To glasagusdhearg: "less of the insult's there please jimbo. whatever money Mayo spend on our team's ( and we do have other team's, our u21 footballer's won the all Ireland this year and our u21 hurler's were involved too, 62% of the overall money was spent on the senior team) is raised off our own bat, apart from the few quid we get from the gaa. as regard's the money we got off the gaa for MacHale park, the loan was restructured, every penny of that money still has to be repaid to the gaa. how many people and business's up and down the country have got mortgage's's and loan's restructured over the last number of year's so it's no different for Mayo gaa. And as regard's it being a white elephant, it's the only stand in the country that's full for every league game Mayo play there, per head of capita we are the best supported team in the country for the past 20 year's, we're not spending tax payer's money on our team's, it's money that's raised mostly from within the county and i have absolutely no problem with that." Sorry to burst your bubble here But well We don't spend tax payers money on our inter county teams either. Glad to have educated your ignorance a wee bit there But it's a common trait amongst an awful lot of you Mayo get bailed out by the GAA to the tune of millions due to a bloated white elephant project, unable to pay what you owned, you have taken millions away from more deserving counties who didn't run themselves into dire debt So please spare me the "aren't we just great" at funding ourselves rubbish.. You should be paying off your own loans but instead are pumping huge money into one panel of players Again, no tax payer money is spent on our county teams So please don't expose your daft ignorance jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 19/02/2017 14:09:10 1958215 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Fact is Mayo have spent millions and won nothing since Horan really upped their approach from 2011 onwards Mayo GAA were bailed out by the GAA, saving themselves millions Yet are still spending big even over Dublin now, bailed out by the association allowing themselves the opportunity to spend big If they can afford to spend such sizeable figures on one team! Why can't they afford to pay off their ridiculously bloated white elephant? Why is this point not a bigger deal? I mean if it's about fairness, how come this is not a bigger issue? It's not just about spending big though That's why Dublin has 8 National titles to Mayo's Zero National titles in the same time frame You can have all the fancy gear, you can have the best of this and that, but it's worthless without the quality You can coach a donkey to be a race horse" Did you just call your Dublin team a donkey Jim? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/02/2017 14:43:53 1958221 Link