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Replying To Dermoot: "I am only stating the obvious, the defensive system has been worked on and in place for the past 3 years, like i said it is awesome. Where Tyrone have failed over the past 2 years and again last night was their general forward play, shooting, free kicking. They were beat by Kerry in 2015 because of simple missed chances, were beaten by Mayo last because of simple missed chances and ditto last night. And I don't know you but I would guess you were as angry/frustrated as most Tyrone supporters against Mayo last year when they left it behind them again, all because focus is purely on defence." I don't know that its true to say that the whole focus is on defense.I do think we have a great defensive set up with great counter attacking instincts.That our forwards are not at times setting the world on fire is disappointing but we can only hope they improve.Older players are there for their experience which is invaluable while the newer lads are being given the chance to prove themselves.We don't have a Stephen O' Neil or Canavan that is obvious to pick out.Although we have lads who are doing great for their clubs,R O' Neil.Bradley,Mc Shane etc and we can just hope it will transfer over to the county team too with more work.People lament the absence of marquee forwards but I don't care who gets the scores.Mc Crory goals yesterday and Collie Cav last week.It just matters who has the most on the board at the end of the game.Sludden is impressing me more with each outing and I look forward to the season.We can realistically beat anybody on any given day. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 12/02/2017 22:34:46 1955757 Link
What is the problem with big mcnulty, bringing him on with a cupl of mins remaining and tyrone not having scored for umpteen mins just didn't seem logical. Put him up front as a target man and try him out. One thing for sure, at least he has a back bone and won't be found wanting in the physical stuff. Mc curry just isn't cutting it and seems to be running about like a prima donna premiership player who likes the nice clean ball and an easy shot. Not on his own either. Time to start looking at other options mickey. bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 12/02/2017 23:45:51 1955829 Link
Replying To bulmccabe: "What is the problem with big mcnulty, bringing him on with a cupl of mins remaining and tyrone not having scored for umpteen mins just didn't seem logical. Put him up front as a target man and try him out. One thing for sure, at least he has a back bone and won't be found wanting in the physical stuff. Mc curry just isn't cutting it and seems to be running about like a prima donna premiership player who likes the nice clean ball and an easy shot. Not on his own either. Time to start looking at other options mickey." Hard to disagree with this. No point in having a great defence if you can't score. All your doing is limiting the number of points you get beat by. Forwards not tough enough. Even though oneill or Peter weren't massive men they were not afraid to get stuck in and win their own balls. Unfortunately history is going to repeat it's self this year again as same problems do not seem to have been addressed. kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 13/02/2017 07:01:06 1955861 Link
Replying To border Gael: "Tyrone left it behind tthem tonight. They have the measure of the Dubs but they'd need to start practicing their shooting. Rubbish at shooting. Can't understand how Mark Bradley got sent off or how Tiernan mc cann got a black card. There were others who deserved but I question these particular ones well the colour of them. It should be a great summer after that tonight as Tyrone know now that it's doable." Mark Bradley got sent off for striking Johnny Cooper in the face right in front of the linesman and Tiernan McCann dragged the man with the ball to the ground while trying to break up an attack. I though that Tyrone would be Dublin's biggest threat last year and they left it behind them in the semi-final against Mayo. I could see Dublin and Tyrone meeting again in this year's semi-final and I think the winner will go on to lift Sam. It'll be a titanic game between two great teams if it happens and I look forward to it. Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 13/02/2017 10:32:39 1955990 Link
Tyrone did very well and the conditions suited their game plan and they performed their strategy brilliantly Great save by Morgan, I feel Dublin would have gone onto win the game - Tyrone scored 1-1 after that save and it was a massive swing in their favour Dublin to their credit despite a lot going wrong didn't let the heads drop and did very well indeed to get something out of the game That game will bring Dublin on, and you could see how leggy they looked, we had a couple of lads who had played 3 games that week, and thankfully from what I'm hearing, McCarthy's injury isn't as bad as it looked, that's what I heard anyway. Fair play to Tyrone, played o their strengths but if it was the other way around, it would feel more like a point dropped rather than a point gained. Dublin's never say die belief in themselves have them sitting on top of Div 1, and in a good position to get some more training into the legs over the next couple of weeks and then be a little fresher coming into the Donegal game. No doubt fitness wise Dublin are weeks behind. Again hats off to Tyrone. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 13/02/2017 11:38:05 1956034 Link
Replying To bulmccabe: "What is the problem with big mcnulty, bringing him on with a cupl of mins remaining and tyrone not having scored for umpteen mins just didn't seem logical. Put him up front as a target man and try him out. One thing for sure, at least he has a back bone and won't be found wanting in the physical stuff. Mc curry just isn't cutting it and seems to be running about like a prima donna premiership player who likes the nice clean ball and an easy shot. Not on his own either. Time to start looking at other options mickey." I have always thought Darren McCurry is an excellent player. I know he isn't the biggest man and will always find it difficult to win dirty ball against stronger defenders but he is lethal when he gets a chance. Could the problem be that Tyrone are not creating enough good scoring opportunities for him? Donegal have a similar problem with Patrick McBrearty, expecting him to beat 2 men to the ball and then get a shot away quickly, it's nearly impossible. It's a difficult job being a corner forward in modern day football. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 13/02/2017 12:07:56 1956057 Link
Replying To Green_Gold: "I have always thought Darren McCurry is an excellent player. I know he isn't the biggest man and will always find it difficult to win dirty ball against stronger defenders but he is lethal when he gets a chance. Could the problem be that Tyrone are not creating enough good scoring opportunities for him? Donegal have a similar problem with Patrick McBrearty, expecting him to beat 2 men to the ball and then get a shot away quickly, it's nearly impossible. It's a difficult job being a corner forward in modern day football." Why are so many people beating around the bush re the Tyrone forward line. Only two of the starting forwards on Saturday night were up to standard on a night when not one of the starting full forward line managed to score. Generally..... A - No Tyrone player seems capable of more than three or four points in a game. B - Frees seem to be taken by different players on different days C - No importance seems to be attached to practicing shooting or freetaking How can anyone seriously suggest that Tyrone can win an All Ireland? Statistics don't lie and over the years all AI winners have always had at least one forward capable of big scores (usually two) and have reliable freetaker(s). BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 14/02/2017 02:13:58 1956484 Link
With a lineup like this i think they definitely can do it; 1Morgan 2McCarron 3McNamee 4McCrory 5Brennan 6McMahon 7McCann 8Cavanagh 9Donnelly 10Harte 11Sludden 12Bradley 13McCurry 14Cavanagh 15O'Neill Why couldnt that team win it?! They also have arguably the best players in the game - with donnelly and harte. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 14/02/2017 14:42:41 1956684 Link
Would some expert posters in Tyrone like to name two scoring forwards to add to the Tyrone panel? cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 14/02/2017 21:30:54 1956871 Link
Against Mayo last year Tyrone scored 0-12 points (12 scores obviously) out of 30 scoring attempts against Dublin on Saturday Tyrone scored 1-7 (8 scores) out of 27 scoring attempts. (13 wides, 6 short, 8 scores) Its getting worse lads Where are those 2 big men? Hiding in the bushes? cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 14/02/2017 21:36:19 1956877 Link
Replying To cjx: "Would some expert posters in Tyrone like to name two scoring forwards to add to the Tyrone panel?" peter canavan and stephen o neill were 2 good lads i heard of alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 14/02/2017 21:52:20 1956895 Link
Every player that starts showing good for Tyrone is moved to the backline straight away. No one can understand it. I know for a fact that S o Neill and Canavan used to come early to training and practice their shooting skills. Mulligan would practice this also. It looks as though it's outa fashion to do this now. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 14/02/2017 22:57:15 1956916 Link
Would mccurry and o'neill not be able to share the scoring burden?! They are 2 quality forwards! Cavanagh, sludden and harte are capable of chipping in with 2/3/4 scores per game as well. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 15/02/2017 09:26:17 1956970 Link
Replying To cjx: "Would some expert posters in Tyrone like to name two scoring forwards to add to the Tyrone panel?" Not living in the country anymore so havent seen any football this year, but how did some of the forwards that recently joined the panel perform? McClure, McCullagh and McHugh? McCullagh and McHugh were prolific scorers at club level. Lee Brennan is the undoubtedly the most exciting young forward in Tyrone. Huge potential. TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 15/02/2017 14:54:21 1957119 Link
Replying To hurlingexpert: "Would mccurry and o'neill not be able to share the scoring burden?! They are 2 quality forwards! Cavanagh, sludden and harte are capable of chipping in with 2/3/4 scores per game as well." Given the ball 35m from goal and with a bit of space, they are both accurate. Their problem, and the same goes for Bradley & Lee Brennan, is that all of them have difficulties in winning their own ball. None of them are 6ft, and none of them have real, intercounty pace (Bradley has good acceleration, but not real top end speed). At club level, where the game isn't as fast and defences aren't as tight, they can all score. So, in short, It's not a lack of scoring forwards, but rather a lack of 1-2 top forwards who can win ball and score (e.g. Brogan, Connolly, McBrearty, Murphy, McManus, Geaney, O'Donoghue - basically the type of players all the other top sides have). Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 15/02/2017 15:13:17 1957128 Link
Replying To Thomas Clarke: "Given the ball 35m from goal and with a bit of space, they are both accurate. Their problem, and the same goes for Bradley & Lee Brennan, is that all of them have difficulties in winning their own ball. None of them are 6ft, and none of them have real, intercounty pace (Bradley has good acceleration, but not real top end speed). At club level, where the game isn't as fast and defences aren't as tight, they can all score. So, in short, It's not a lack of scoring forwards, but rather a lack of 1-2 top forwards who can win ball and score (e.g. Brogan, Connolly, McBrearty, Murphy, McManus, Geaney, O'Donoghue - basically the type of players all the other top sides have)." Sludden and Harte were the only two forwards who were up to scratch on Saturday night. McCurry capable of big scores but only against weak opposition. O Neill not making any headway. Occasionally flatters to deceive. Bradley - can look good at times but inconsistent. McShane is young but has been around a while - has had plenty of chances and hasn't really done it. The others -- soloing into trouble and shooting wides seems to be about as good as it gets. BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 15/02/2017 23:58:54 1957315 Link
Replying To Thomas Clarke: "Given the ball 35m from goal and with a bit of space, they are both accurate. Their problem, and the same goes for Bradley & Lee Brennan, is that all of them have difficulties in winning their own ball. None of them are 6ft, and none of them have real, intercounty pace (Bradley has good acceleration, but not real top end speed). At club level, where the game isn't as fast and defences aren't as tight, they can all score. So, in short, It's not a lack of scoring forwards, but rather a lack of 1-2 top forwards who can win ball and score (e.g. Brogan, Connolly, McBrearty, Murphy, McManus, Geaney, O'Donoghue - basically the type of players all the other top sides have)." What are you talking about lad. Bothe Bradley and Brennan are flyers. Neither have really had a chance in the full fwd line at the minute. Some tyrone supporters are just so over the top. You do not want your team and players peaking now. Tyrone drew with the champions, the goal is to stay up then start fine tuning for the championship. Bradley and Brennan will come good. I can't see brennan being used until after u-21's is over. The other 3 forwards had umpteen chances over the last few years and these 2 are being written off in some quarters without even having a full 70. Just calm down! Bradley and Brennan can win ball and make it count, they just need a big man in there with them redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 16/02/2017 11:17:54 1957380 Link
Tyrone will improve in the forward line with the introduction of Bradley and Brennan. Sludden and Harte are well established but everything else is up for grabs. It would be great if Sean could hold down the full forward position for the others to play around. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 16/02/2017 12:58:02 1957411 Link
Replying To redhanddefender: "What are you talking about lad. Bothe Bradley and Brennan are flyers. Neither have really had a chance in the full fwd line at the minute. Some tyrone supporters are just so over the top. You do not want your team and players peaking now. Tyrone drew with the champions, the goal is to stay up then start fine tuning for the championship. Bradley and Brennan will come good. I can't see brennan being used until after u-21's is over. The other 3 forwards had umpteen chances over the last few years and these 2 are being written off in some quarters without even having a full 70. Just calm down! Bradley and Brennan can win ball and make it count, they just need a big man in there with them" Ah yes, Brennan can win ball and make it count.......except we haven't actually had a proper look at him at this level yet! And they are not flyers, certainly not Brennan. Paddy McBrearty is a flyer. Cormac Costello is a flyer. A fit James O'Donoghue is a flyer. Lee Brennan, Mark Bradley and the rest of our inside forward options aren't. They could both come good but, right now, you're basing your entire argument on hope/potential rather than on what you've seen from those 2. There's a big difference. Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 16/02/2017 13:08:20 1957415 Link
Obviously I don't know the Tyrone forwards as well as some here but I'm not sure if I'd agree with the idea that their forwards will let them down in terms of winning the All-Ireland. The couple of times I've seen Tyrone of late (last Sat and the Mayo game last year) I thought that their movement was excellent. They created a lot of chances on both days I thought. I don't think that they are not fast or strong enough, they are in my opinion. It's just their shooting that's letting them down. That can be, and I'm sure is being, worked. It'd be far worse if they were not getting into the scoring positions. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13711 - 16/02/2017 15:10:02 1957463 Link