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Game over for today lads -, Kingdomboy wins it and gets to take the ball home. I doff my hat sir, very well played. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 28/01/2017 19:03:47 1949520 Link 3 |
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All certain teams have to win an AI is beat a bunch of teams with a 10th, 20th of its population and a similarly low percent of its financial resources. There is no such thing as free cars for the hurlers and footballers of Carlow or anywhere else for that matter BlueGolconda (Dublin) - Posts: 39 - 28/01/2017 19:05:24 1949521 Link 0 |
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Those figures where reported by the ball.ie via a lad from Twitter, the source numbers where registered senior players of 39k, nothing about underage figures, when they are added those headline figures actually make it look like Dublin need more funding. You would also ask the question what the hell are other counties doing with their funding, in fact when you add development funding with structural funding, there are big question to be asked by most rural counties in term of what the hell they are using funds for. When it comes to Dublin funding I would be open to a whole review of it, but only post an audit of every other county boards use of funding not just structural, I would suggest outrage needs to be directed closer to home behind Ivory tower of centres of "excellences", county boards instead of asking for a handout because their teams are not competitve. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 28/01/2017 19:54:31 1949548 Link 2 |
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No other county gets Free cars? Are you being serious ? clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/01/2017 20:28:27 1949555 Link 1 |
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You are in no position to moralise about COE's when Dublin have had one built for them without having to raise a penny for it For years Dublin fans have claimed that there is far more sports to compete with - that's fair enough I agree with that sentiment buty you you then can't use the 1.5m population as justification for the enormous funding figures year after year it should be based per capita with preference given to the smallest populations ideally. BlueGolconda (Dublin) - Posts: 39 - 28/01/2017 20:32:43 1949557 Link 0 |
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About 5 counties I would say and that is at a push
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1464 - 28/01/2017 20:46:51 1949561 Link 0 |
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Dublin don't use the facility mate, apart from the weight room and that's an open thing rather than part of the programme. All of Dublins training takes place in different sites in the city and remains so. Surely you are aware that we are building a better facility on a 25 acre site in templouge. If you can tell me how often Dublin have trained at Abbotstown I'll concede its Dublins coi? Truth is counties invested in fools gold and some use of funding is questionable, as I said I'm open to Dublins funding being reviewed post an audit if every other county board in the country. Do you ever wonder why, county boards aren't millitant on this very issue if it's the scandal many make it out to be. I agree, funding should be given per captia, but if you are basing a funding arguement on the figures given above on the 39k registered GAA players, those figures aren't reflective of underage and were published by other media outlets not for the purposes he originally accumulated the data. He himself has said it doesn't take into account junior and other underage while duel player representing hasn't been accounted for. it's not uncommon 3000 kids can be represented every weekend at one Dublin club of which there are many. The lad who posted those figures originally has said their are vast inacricies in hoe they were reported, it just makes the argument hyperbole. Especially when the grant is for structural funding. Dublin have many advantages, population to my mind being the biggest in modern society, that not going to change, but great work has Debden done by the county board to optimise its natural strengths. I'm wholly open to a funding rethink as I don't think it will make a hot of difference as I believe other counties deficiencies aren't really funding based. I'm honestly open to a funding review, but I would be pushing our county board to audit other counties as there is an inherent problem there. Historically Dublin have always been a powerhouse of GAA, I recent success just as a natural extension of our historical profile after a period of poor structural management. The earth.can be shook all it wants, but visiting clubs around the country Dublin GAA has never been stronger. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 28/01/2017 20:57:33 1949567 Link 2 |
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Dublin Mayo Kerry Kilkenny tipperary Cork Galway Tyrone Donegal Clare off the top of my head I've seen them teams players with free cars so 5 is way off. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/01/2017 21:01:30 1949569 Link 0 |
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Individual players yes but I was talking about the entire squads of both hurlers and footballers getting cars BlueGolconda (Dublin) - Posts: 39 - 28/01/2017 21:11:13 1949573 Link 0 |
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Dublin have always had a population advantage - even when they were shite. The championship is unfair and has always been unfair. When you divide the 32 teams into their provincial championships, you would think it would be 4 groups of 8-not groups of 12,9,6 and 5. The league is very fair. The fairest that we have anyway. Each team plays each of the teams at the their own level. Dublin have won that three times in a row as well. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/01/2017 21:41:03 1949580 Link 1 |
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Dublin don't receive 50% of the development money. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 28/01/2017 21:53:54 1949587 Link 0 |
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a Dublin kid on average receives €274 per annum in comparison Kerry kid gets €19, Donegal €20, Tyrone €21 Mayo €22 The big urban areas such as Belfast Galway Cork Limerick and Cork have received pitiful funding in comparison how can you possibly think it's fair or acceptable. Rich get richer BlueGolconda (Dublin) - Posts: 39 - 28/01/2017 22:02:34 1949589 Link 1 |
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Can I ask this question, people from around the capital region would know more than me in Mayo about this but how many players from neighbouring counties are playing in Dublin, I can't understand how lads from the west coast from Donegal to Kerry are working in the UK but fly home to play with their home club every week or fortnight yet lads born and raised in Louth, Meath, Kildare and Wicklow who are working in Dublin but choose to play for a Dublin club rather than the club they played for at underage in their home county and more or less never get to play for their home county, surely traffic isn't that bad that you can't travel home for a game every Saturday or Sunday even during the boom people from the west working in Dublin travelled home every weekend for club games, with the amount of money and jobs in the capital you would expect Louth, Meath, Kildare and Wicklow to have stronger teams but I suppose funding at underage level may be the problem. Regardless of how good or poor your team is you have to be proud to wear the county jersey riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 28/01/2017 22:03:06 1949590 Link 0 |
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That's not true. Counties other than Dublin get development officers provided for them by their provincial councils. A Kerry child is getting money spent on them by both the Kerry board and Munster council. https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-claiming-the-bulk-of-gaa-s-development-funds-1.2091641%3Fmode%3Damp?client=safari Around 18 per cent of that revenue (€9.5 million) goes back to games development at provincial and county level, which is where Dublin's €1.46 million jumped out. Many of the smaller counties (Leitrim, Longford, Monaghan, etc) received just €39,000, although GAA director general Páraic Duffy was quick to point out that this was not comparing like with like, highlighting the fact Dublin employs its own coaching and games administrators, while in all other counties they are employed by the province Other counties in Leinster, for example, would have their games development paid from the province allocation of €1.63 million; yet Duffy agreed there was still something of a discrepancy. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 28/01/2017 22:56:52 1949606 Link 1 |
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The entire Dublin hurling n football squads don't get cars and that is a fact. A lot do just like in all the other counties I named but not them all. Your all freaked out about this money thing, you think at underage we have these coaches doing these crazy training sessions when it couldn't be further from the truth. My club underage teams is 90% the parents training them and half them parents haven't a clue about Gaelic football they just have their kids up there cause they think Gaa is a good environment to be in instead of their kids hanging around the streets.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/01/2017 23:13:04 1949616 Link 0 |
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well we have our advantages obviously but still there is no excuse for kildare and meath especially being this poor for so long...its become shocking..at least counties like monaghan are generally getting the very best out of themselves despite a limited pool of players
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 28/01/2017 23:34:07 1949623 Link 0 |
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Agree with you there, Meath and Kildare at a disadvantage but still underachieving
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1464 - 28/01/2017 23:56:54 1949633 Link 0 |
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Kildare have won 3 of the last 4 Leinster minor so should be scope to get competitive at senior there centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 29/01/2017 08:09:13 1949652 Link 0 |
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Unless they split Dublin into two teams. Leinster championship is effectively over as a competition bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 29/01/2017 09:10:58 1949658 Link 1 |
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As a man, who spent the first fifteen years of his life in Dublin to galway parents, before moving to galway permanently, the issue isn't simply funding. I remember talking to my da 1 year after I moved in 1993 and saying that if Dublin ever go their act together, the rest of the country would have no hope. The funding goes primarily to coaching. Dublin GAA have 50 plus coaches, which is slightly less than the rest of the country combined. This imbalance needs to be addressed. What was done in Dublin could be done on a smaller scale in cork, Limerick, galway and especially Belfast. galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 29/01/2017 09:16:27 1949661 Link 3 |