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I agree - the 2x4 works better in soccer where the higher likelihood of drawn matches leads to a wider variety of final group outcomes - in soccer a team can go through with only one win, especially if accompanied by a draw. In both soccer and GAA, a twice defeated team has nothing to play for in the 3rd match - may even give a soft victory to its opponent who needs it - as a famous US tweeter might say - SAD ! omahant (USA) - Posts: 2598 - 27/01/2017 03:08:59 1949118 Link 0 |
There is always an easy solution the problem is the "democracy" element. And the second is a total and utter lack of decent leadership at county board, provincial council and central council. These boards should be leading the way here. You can also see why the weaker counties remain weak. When was the last time a div 4 county came up with a motion to improve structures to help themselves? While I suggested a 7 month intercounty season using all round robin elements things can really be organised anyway we want. For some reason an awful lot of people seem welded to structures that were derived more than 80 years ago. Maybe the "true Gael" yearns for a simpler time when we all had a half door and a tatched roof. My real preference involves serious change. 1. Limit subs to 3 and reduce panels to 26 max - maybe even go to 13 a side which would be the end to defensive hand passing type "football" 2. Make December a total off-season for all and all completions finished in calendar year 3. Limit players to 3 teams per season. 1 club, 1 county and 1 college/school with a 4th allowed for underage dual players 4. Split season into blocks with no replays and a match every week - January = preseason training - February = county league/club league/school(college) league - March = county League/club league/school(college) championship - April = county provincial championship and club league - May = county and club leagues and exams/holidays - June = club championship - July = county championship/club league - August = club championship - September - mid October = county championship/club league - Mid October to November = club championship/interprovincial and/or international rules - December = off-season 5. Championship played on Saturdays and leagues played on Sunday panel members who don't play Saturday must be allowed play Sunday 6. Various Boards organise their own completions to fit the window alloted - no overrun except for all Ireland championship final replays (club and county) 7. Inter county football is the biggest problem and needs serious restructuring to fit its allotted windows All of the above should be applied to senior/junior and underage. Both GPA and CPA then step in if county's can't get their act together tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 27/01/2017 05:46:11 1949120 Link 0 |
I don't think, at the top of the GAA, they see any need for change. That's why they keep coming up with proposals that tinker at the edges or that they know will be defeated at Congress. Then they can say 'we tried' to change. opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 503 - 27/01/2017 09:37:34 1949136 Link 0 |
It is dead..professionalism hasn't been good for club rugby. Look how low attendances are now for the average club game..I say this às someone who has attended games and have family involved in the club game for years...that's just my experience janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 27/01/2017 09:49:50 1949144 Link 0 |
Yeah the current GAA season is a Frankenstein's monster over the years bits have been added on and moved around all over the place. It is tough for the GAA to completely tear everything down and start again. They do have to consider revenues and they will have committed money to development projects that require income that mainly comes from the inter county game. They shouldn't toy much with the timing or format of the provincial championships. They should get rid of qualifiers. They don't have the same sort of tradition that the provincial championships contain and aren't especially well attended. They cause scheduling problems for county boards. The weekends that county teams can play are determined by when they exit the provincial championships. With this uncertainty in 2 codes it's very difficult to get good scheduling. Use the league to determine 4 All Ireland quarterfinalists in addition to the provincial winners. Every team should have the possibility to qualify through the league in addition to the championship. The league should be played March to May Day. With big games scheduled on St Patrick's day, Easter and the May bank holiday weekend. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 27/01/2017 14:04:26 1949206 Link 0 |
all depends on what county/club you are following!...but there is something more pure about a club from a tiny little area achieving something yes i agree
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 27/01/2017 18:14:10 1949290 Link 0 |
I think the GAA could tinker at the edges and yet bring about a fair AI SFC structure - Have 8 Prov Finalists play TWO double chance KO rounds (2 unbeaten champs to the AI Last 8); Remaining 24 play TWO matches in Qualifier Rd 1, 8 groups of 3, top 2 advance; Rds 2 and 3 are KO Rds of 20 and 12 (6 Rd 3 winners to the AI Last 8); AI Last 8 played as 2x4 or KO AI QFs. AI Last 32 consists of 8 + 8x3 above, despite retention of lopsided Prov Championships. Thoughts ? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2598 - 28/01/2017 04:17:41 1949370 Link 0 |
You know it's not all bad news. Some of the reason why Antrim are falling down the pecking order is that other non traditional counties have improved. The likes of Westmeath, Carlow, Laois, Meath and Kerry all have progressed. Hopefully this trend countinues and hurling is more exciting. For hurlings further growth I feel they could look to expand the teams playing for the Liam McCarthy cup and make it easier to move up and down the grades. I think the tiered championships were great in getting more teams playing summer hurling. I think in time though they should be trying to reduce the tiers. If the inter county football season was more compact it would allow for the hurling teams from traditional football counties to play more matches and in time close the gap. Currently they play a short season so as not to interfere with club football championships. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 28/01/2017 10:54:03 1949383 Link 0 |