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Replying To southerncat79:  "Huge Potential in Carlow hurling ,Clinical today & never let up ,pressure to the very end ,the future is looking brighter with each match they play"
Agreed, Southern Cat.... but most folk on this board are still under the delusion that Carlow is a football first county...

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 605 - 05/03/2017 18:46:03    1964040

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Replying To CARPS:  "Agreed, Southern Cat.... but most folk on this board are still under the delusion that Carlow is a football first county..."
This could easily change given the respective performances of both teams lately.

pennypincher (Carlow) - Posts: 777 - 06/03/2017 13:02:04    1964522

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Big score posted by the hurlers yesterday. Big game against Kildare coming next. We will see where we are after that match...

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 06/03/2017 20:09:43    1964793

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Big score posted by the hurlers yesterday. Big game against Kildare coming next. We will see where we are after that match...

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 06/03/2017 20:10:16    1964794

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Best of luck to the hurlers tomorrow.

Kildare much improved this year, but you'd think we'll have enough to get through.

Blackbogger (Carlow) - Posts: 170 - 11/03/2017 22:42:16    1966269

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Great result for the hurlers yesterday.

Very sluggish in the first half with the ball not sticking in the forwards and the
2 limerick lads very strong in midfield.

We conceded 2 soft goals, the first an unlucky deflection and the second a
soft penalty from the Antrim ref who didnt give us much the whole match.

Sean Whelan was brilliant the whole game but we were overall very poor playing
with the wind and went in at ht down 2 points.

The team were kept in for a good while at HT and came out a different team. Seamus
Murphy was introduced and made a huge impact as the ball stuck in the forwards. we
kept getting it back to a point and then kildare would get a soft free to go up 2 or 3 points
but there was great effort made and we started to win the 50/50s.

The last 10 minutes were great to watch with Eddie Byrne winning ball after ball from puck outs
and Carlow making a few goal chances which Craig wall took well. (ref ignored 2 carlow fouls
in the build up). We went a point up at the start of four minutes injury time only to go a
point down after 3 minutes of the 4. Eddie Byrne wins an impossible ball near the sideline and
Jack Murphy makes a run on goal but the kildare defence clear it for a 65.

Cue a minute of drama where Marty is standing over a 65 facing a strong wind and a kildare
forward bouncing around him and catcalls from the crowd. Great strike and we are level, ref
blows full time after the puck out. Draw suits Carlow as it keeps us ahead of kildare in the league.

A win against Armagh will put us in the final against Antrim who have already qualified.

Great performance in the second half against a physically strong Kildare team where David Reidy
of Limerick is a serious player. Kildare will be tough opposition in the Christy Ring. The good news for
Carlow is the impact of having a good squad as all the subs had an impact yesterday.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 13/03/2017 11:16:10    1966643

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Vital point rescued yesterday. Should be enough to get us into the final against Antrim. Hard to see us slip up against Armagh.
Kildare are obviously a lot stronger than before after bringing in the Limerick guys & Mulhall from Kilkenny too. Reidy the Limerick midfielder obviously had a massive impact scoring 1-8. It is working for them to an extent, but i really hope we never go down that route.

Strange sort of league for us, as we had that massive win 1st day out in Mullingar. Since then have done ok. Decent squad to pick from, but doesn't seem like we've had the best 15 on the pitch together at any time so far, whether due to College commitments, injuries, selection choices or whatever. Hopefully we will do for the final.

The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 13/03/2017 19:57:42    1966828

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Replying To The Real 1944:  "Vital point rescued yesterday. Should be enough to get us into the final against Antrim. Hard to see us slip up against Armagh.
Kildare are obviously a lot stronger than before after bringing in the Limerick guys & Mulhall from Kilkenny too. Reidy the Limerick midfielder obviously had a massive impact scoring 1-8. It is working for them to an extent, but i really hope we never go down that route.

Strange sort of league for us, as we had that massive win 1st day out in Mullingar. Since then have done ok. Decent squad to pick from, but doesn't seem like we've had the best 15 on the pitch together at any time so far, whether due to College commitments, injuries, selection choices or whatever. Hopefully we will do for the final."
Joe Quaid is doing all he can to raise the profile of Kildare hurling, he has 5 key players in key positions all ball winners and game changers and know where the post are. Carlow has to raise their game and keep it raised, playing hot and cold is not an option, the Carlow bench is as strong as any selected 15.

Scallioneater (Carlow) - Posts: 293 - 14/03/2017 12:28:00    1966935

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Replying To Scallioneater:  "Joe Quaid is doing all he can to raise the profile of Kildare hurling, he has 5 key players in key positions all ball winners and game changers and know where the post are. Carlow has to raise their game and keep it raised, playing hot and cold is not an option, the Carlow bench is as strong as any selected 15."
I don't see the point of what Kildare are doing - and Westmeath were it too (maybe still are)... because if Kildare get promoted, these brought in players can't take part in the 'A' grade... so 'rump' Kildare would be whipped in senior... whereas, what they might do is block Carlow or Antrim from going up... who use all their own and would compete better... this nonsense of bringing in players who don't even play club in the county, shouldn't be allowed...

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 605 - 14/03/2017 13:20:59    1966951

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Westmeath were never at it.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 15/03/2017 10:16:48    1967189

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Westmeath were never at it."
Those 3 galway lads didnt stay ?

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 15/03/2017 10:52:54    1967200

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In fairness to Westmeath, they concentrate on developing their underage players.

Kildare are looking for a quick fix but counties that have done this is in the past
tend to be worse off in the long run.

The good effect is that Kildare were a match for Carlow and we may as well
be getting good games in Div2A.

So far we have had 3 close matches and this should bring on the team.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 15/03/2017 11:32:51    1967213

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Replying To carlovia:  "In fairness to Westmeath, they concentrate on developing their underage players.

Kildare are looking for a quick fix but counties that have done this is in the past
tend to be worse off in the long run.

The good effect is that Kildare were a match for Carlow and we may as well
be getting good games in Div2A.

So far we have had 3 close matches and this should bring on the team."
What if Kildare win the Christy Ring and then have to go senior, without their imports?.... they will be massacred... and Carlow or Antrim, who could compete better, will be stuck in Intermediate for another year...

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 605 - 15/03/2017 11:45:50    1967220

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Replying To CARPS:  "What if Kildare win the Christy Ring and then have to go senior, without their imports?.... they will be massacred... and Carlow or Antrim, who could compete better, will be stuck in Intermediate for another year..."
Carps, they allowed Kerry to play their imports last year in the round robin.

Thats part of the reason we are down in the Ring cup.

I agree with you that its unfair.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 15/03/2017 12:00:25    1967231

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Replying To carlovia:  "Carps, they allowed Kerry to play their imports last year in the round robin.

Thats part of the reason we are down in the Ring cup.

I agree with you that its unfair."
Really? I did not know that... are the imports allowed to play if Kerry qualify for Leinster SHC proper?

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 605 - 15/03/2017 12:22:44    1967240

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"Meanwhile, Kerry will be allowed use three non-native players in this year's Leinster Hurling Championship round robin series.

They were granted a derogation at Saturday's Central Council meeting to use three outside players who were part of the panel for last season's Christy Ring Cup, which Kerry won.

They are in a group with Carlow, Westmeath and Offaly in the Leinster Championship, with two to qualify for the quarter-finals against Galway and Laois respectively.

Ciaran Carey's squad, who will be at home to Carlow and Westmeath and away to Offaly, appear to have an excellent chance of reaching the quarter-finals in their first season in the Leinster Championship."

Irish Independent

Dont think they would have been allowed play them at Leinster level which shows how the powers view the
round robin as an inconvenience and a lesser competition.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 15/03/2017 15:07:24    1967315

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Replying To carlovia:  ""Meanwhile, Kerry will be allowed use three non-native players in this year's Leinster Hurling Championship round robin series.

They were granted a derogation at Saturday's Central Council meeting to use three outside players who were part of the panel for last season's Christy Ring Cup, which Kerry won.

They are in a group with Carlow, Westmeath and Offaly in the Leinster Championship, with two to qualify for the quarter-finals against Galway and Laois respectively.

Ciaran Carey's squad, who will be at home to Carlow and Westmeath and away to Offaly, appear to have an excellent chance of reaching the quarter-finals in their first season in the Leinster Championship."

Irish Independent

Dont think they would have been allowed play them at Leinster level which shows how the powers view the
round robin as an inconvenience and a lesser competition."
Now ya said it Carlovia.

Add to that the fact that Kerry were permitted to play their Leinster matches in Tralee, in addition to retaining these outside players.

There is absolutely no consistency within the GAA whatsoever.

Galway are up in arms over 'no home matches' in the Leinster championship yet It was ok for Carlow to travel down to Austin Stack for what's supposedly the same provincial competition.

Re Kildare. I'm given to understand that these fellows aren't even members/players with Kildare clubs. I like to see Kildare coming on, but this is patently a nonsense. An inter county team should be representative of the best club players either from or within that county. Simples

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 510 - 15/03/2017 16:12:57    1967330

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Replying To Passer_By:  "Now ya said it Carlovia.

Add to that the fact that Kerry were permitted to play their Leinster matches in Tralee, in addition to retaining these outside players.

There is absolutely no consistency within the GAA whatsoever.

Galway are up in arms over 'no home matches' in the Leinster championship yet It was ok for Carlow to travel down to Austin Stack for what's supposedly the same provincial competition.

Re Kildare. I'm given to understand that these fellows aren't even members/players with Kildare clubs. I like to see Kildare coming on, but this is patently a nonsense. An inter county team should be representative of the best club players either from or within that county. Simples"
Given Carlow's proximity to Kilkenny, we could easily splice off three super hurlers just slightly over the hill for the cats, or a bit too young... but nobody wants to do that (and quite rightly)... the set up in second tier hurling is farce... (as is that silly round robin... Kerry should be in Munster, to boot..

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 605 - 15/03/2017 18:44:51    1967370

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The ability to bring in imports in a bit of a farce alrite. Kildare almost did us out of a final there on Sunday with 2 Limerick men at midfield and a Kilkenny all Ireland winner in the forwards. I see Wicklow are now bringing in a guy who played for Offaly last year too because he has some family in Arklow.
We could easily bring in 5 players from Kilkenny or Wexford who are related to Carlow people etc but thankfully we haven't gone down that route & really hope we never do.

The whole Leinster round robin thing too seems a bit wrong. As was said earlier, Galway can't play home games, but Kerry got 2 at home in the LEINSTER round robin.

The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 15/03/2017 22:32:05    1967428

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"Leitrim manager Martin Cunniffe has condemned the decision at Congress to reduce the numbers of players eligible for 'weaker counties' from five to three.

The rule is set to be implemented from next year and Cunniffe believes it will be detrimental to Leitrim's chances of progression."

Congress has reduced the number of outside players from 5 to 3.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 16/03/2017 09:38:38    1967465

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