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Not really when rte own soccer pundits don't think the league of Ireland matters in irish sporting terms as they continuously state you cannot determine a players ability in it so therefore a manager must be judged the same in rte terms. didn't dundalk win team of the year last year aswell for sound league and cup double yet dublin do back to back trebles and not even a sniff either year. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 20/12/2016 16:30:00 1941204 Link 0 |
Didn't know he played in goal for club. why he not getting chance outfield anymore? Always thaught he was off the Meath panel very early for a guy with ability and strength. Worth coming in off bench at full forward in last 15 minutes of games. Similarly brian farrell from nober seemed young to be off panel along with cian ward who had ability hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 20/12/2016 16:34:17 1941205 Link 0 |
It was one of the stranger decisions, mod I think was trying to put down a marker, no one is safe etc, the only problem with that is when you bring in lads who aren't yet upto the quality of what they replacing. You get into a vicious cycle, the young lads dont have the confidence and dont have a older guy who has been around the block who can have a word in their ear. Meath actually became one of the youngest teams in country in very short time, even the bench was inexperienced. The likes of Joe, brian Farrell, cian, would be perfect to bring on with 15 mins to go . It also gives the supporters a lift . I think that's what Andy is trying to do,Joe probably will be a outfield sub as things go on, I heard Cian is also doing a bit of training (he is only 30 I think) so still has something to offer , and his younger brother looks the real deal too. It was a case of getting rid of lads too soon, and we paid a high price for it, Andy will use everyone and anything to turn that around. In one way its a master stroke .
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/12/2016 18:37:19 1941263 Link 0 |
gaa has generally been largely ignored when it comes to those awards sadly hill...and the dundalk thing was largely down to european exploits very little domestic
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/12/2016 19:19:21 1941271 Link 0 |
Don't get me wrong I was delighted for dundalk and I watch league of Ireland games and don't watch cross channel soccer but you can't have them saying the players aren't good enough cause they don't play across the sea yet turn around and reward them as best sports team in Ireland and then reward manager as best sports manager in Ireland, it's hypocritical really if we're being honest. As for Dublin I have come to realise we won't ever get anything off them awards as we have just won four league's four Leinsters and three all Ireland's in the last four years there's not much more you can do in gaa terms to get acknowledgement
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 20/12/2016 20:15:39 1941286 Link 0 |
they were rewarded because they performed way above their expected level i think is the point...its not like daryl horgan as good a player as he is was signed by some top club straight away
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/12/2016 20:36:15 1941290 Link 0 |
Last year they were hardly performing above expected levels winning the league and cup ? I would have had them favourites for both. why should Daryl Horgan have to go anywhere to get recognition? He was playing great football regardless of club name or address. to win every major competition two years running is a really hard thing to do in gaelic football and only one team in 25 years had managed to defend the all ireland never mind all three titles. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 20/12/2016 22:52:07 1941318 Link 0 |
I had Team of The Year as being between Dublin, Dundalk and Connacht . I was leaning towards Connacht especially given Saturday's result . I was surprised The O Donavons got it . I agree The Dubs should have been acknowledged somewhere along the line . I also felt manager of the year was between Jim Gavin, Pat Lam and Stephen Kenny . Each of them were outstanding this year .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/12/2016 00:24:59 1941339 Link 0 |
look at what iv said instead of putting words in my mouth...they performed above themselves in european competition...like it or not but the majority of people dont care about the league of ireland especially the media...on horgan im just highlighting the opinion those in soccer circles have of him..its not like he has suddenly gone up to elite level he was signed by a 2nd division club which is still a good move all the same
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 10:06:52 1941361 Link 0 |
I'm not putting any words in your mouth They won team of the year last year not this year so therefore they were rewarded for their exploits domestically as it was this year they made a breakthrough in Europe. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/12/2016 10:43:18 1941369 Link 0 |
Dundalk's achievements this year were absolutely extraordinary. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 21/12/2016 10:44:03 1941370 Link 2 |
In all fairness connacht won what exactly the second competition in club rugby, whereas dublin defended both the national titles and their provincial title and went the entire year(competitively) unbeaten. it's not fairytale of the year it's team of the year and I don't think the all blacks rugby team would have missed out on the team of the year in New Zealand just because people had them as favourites to win their competition and other games. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/12/2016 10:51:59 1941371 Link 0 |
are we not discussing kenny though?..im only talking about this year anyway
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 10:52:55 1941372 Link 0 |
incredible achievement...legia had an eventful campaign in the end!
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 10:53:25 1941373 Link 1 |
look seems to be misunderstood I also enjoyed dundalks feats this year and hve watched them last few years play good football the point I was tryin to make is regarding rte they continuosly put down the league of ireland and refuse to want its top players for national team ahead of guys sitting on bench with postal address somewhere in uk. they always say you cannot rate the guys playing here yet reward them its just double standards is what im making out. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/12/2016 18:54:48 1941500 Link 0 |
it is a poor league though hill like it or not the facts speak for themselves..in relation to uk players that situation has improved a lot..current side dominated by mostly irish born and bred players lots of whom played league of ireland at one stage or another
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 19:01:57 1941501 Link 0 |
hill16no1man are you a 12 year old child or something? If you're not im worried... football_man (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 21/12/2016 19:11:46 1941502 Link 0 |
What are you talking about. You signed up to Hoganstand just to post that ?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7365 - 21/12/2016 19:37:30 1941504 Link 0 |
No. Been reading for a while. But just had to ask after seeing this latest rant of his
football_man (Leitrim) - Posts: 15 - 21/12/2016 19:46:09 1941506 Link 0 |
Hard to argue with Kenny and McGregor winning Manager and Sportsperson of the year. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 21/12/2016 20:45:21 1941516 Link 0 |