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Replying To rhudson: "id imagine the galway lads must be looking forward to playing mayo next year" Kevin Walsh seems to be carefully building a very strong panel over the winter. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 20/12/2016 23:31:45 1941331 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "But is OK to hang the coaches out to dry ????" Players get dropped every week. These managers got dropped. That's not being hung out to dry. That's life. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 20/12/2016 23:36:20 1941333 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Wrong. The players didn't keep their reasons private as you say. The players didn't have the courage or the decency to give Holmes and Connelly the reasons for their discontent. That meant that the management team was not able to defend itself . There was nothing private about this . Holmes and Connelly were very publicly humiliated . This was entirely orchestrated . Subsequently the players presented the county board with a list of demands with a deadline of four days from the date of receipt of the list given for accedence to the demands . This was accompanied by a threat of strike if the demands weren't acceded to . The reason the players wanted all this done behind closed doors is because they knew well what the public reaction would be . There was nothing honourable in how they went about their business ." What were the reasons it they weren't kept private???? Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 20/12/2016 23:38:59 1941335 Link
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/cheap-shots-have-harmed-mayo-436002.html Just to show that an article written by one journalist is not fact and that it is merely their opinion. The quote on eamon sweeneys article should serve as a clue! Maybe some anti aiden O'shea posters on here could learn a thing or two from this Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 21/12/2016 07:22:52 1941342 Link
Its embarrassing being from mayo and people still coming out and saying what Holmes/Connelly did was wrong. They were 100% in the right. Obviously people outside the county on this site don't know what is going on in the Mayo dressing room. However there are people here who go to every mayo game and obviously know nothing about football and are blind to whats going on. Firstly its obvious from the article that players got david clarke dropped. If this is true then Rochford may not be up to the job in my opinion. Secondly i have zero pity for the players. The players who sat back and let this go on knowing how wrong it was shows their mentality and mindset. The are clearly just happy to wear the jersey and get the bag and be part of the setup. Those who did nothing are as bad as those who did. Mayo people are the laughing stock of the country and rightfully so, and i am a mayo man. I wont ever go to another Mayo game again. Mayo4sam1983 (Mayo) - Posts: 3 - 21/12/2016 07:33:18 1941343 Link
Martin Brehony writes again today and basically backs up the two lads and stands 100%behind them in that they had every right in coming out now and telling it as it is.. I agree with him and the two lads, absolutely they have evry right to defend their position. If Mayo are to ever win the All Ireland Rochford has to man up now and remove the few egos that are causing problems. Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 21/12/2016 07:59:49 1941348 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "We got further in 2016 then 2015 but that's it. We struggled against Fermanagh, Tipp and Tyrone. We only clicked to life in the two finals. We also nearly got relegated so 2016 is far from vintage but I think Mayo people are fed up of playing well and just want to win it out. I think Rochford needs time but must be strong. If there are any outside influences or attempts by any player to call the shots then they must be dropped. I respect Noel and Pat but wished it could have been dealt with differently. James Horan when appointed said his aim was to take the bu11sh1t out of Mayo football. Looks like it has returned. Interesting to see where we go from here but I agree best thing now is for players to say nothing. Do the talking on the pitch and keep the heads down. One thing I find amusing is those from outside who seem sad to see this mess we are in...you must be joking. I reckon most of our rivals are laughing their heads off and are delighted. It's time to look in the mirror, learn from our mistakes and move on. Blaming the opposition, referee decisions etc etc does not cut it with me anymore." Agreed Yew. We were poor, by last and recent years standards, in league and in Connacht. Possibly Rochford and McEntee had a plan to try and peak in September ? Whereas previously we looked great in Croke Park for quarter or semis but it was flattering to decieve because, as before, we were poor in comparison to the earlier games in the one that matters. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 21/12/2016 08:16:15 1941350 Link
He said she said.... Time to move on and try out a few players in the FBD unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 21/12/2016 10:01:22 1941360 Link
Replying To Belclare1: "Martin Brehony writes again today and basically backs up the two lads and stands 100%behind them in that they had every right in coming out now and telling it as it is.. I agree with him and the two lads, absolutely they have evry right to defend their position. If Mayo are to ever win the All Ireland Rochford has to man up now and remove the few egos that are causing problems." well breheny is going to defend them because its in the interest of his own piece..hes not exactly objective alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 10:09:17 1941364 Link
Replying To Mayonman: "Players get dropped every week. These managers got dropped. That's not being hung out to dry. That's life." players get dropped part of life , mangers get sacked part of life , but when players go behind your back to county board , cast desperations on your ability and integrity NOT PART OF LIFE , if it was it was it would happen everywhere , look at how Davy Fitz,s departure was handled in Clare and tell me you don't see a difference . Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/12/2016 11:01:38 1941376 Link
Replying To alano12: "thats your opinion..i disagree" I made eight points in my post do you disagree with all of them , I will give you one example to help you out , do you think a man has right of reply and should be able to face his accuser ?????????? Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/12/2016 11:04:16 1941377 Link
Replying To alano12: "again why are you unable to debate the points raised?" you did not debate one of my eight points raised Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/12/2016 11:04:52 1941378 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "you did not debate one of my eight points raised" i was referring to another poster alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 11:27:35 1941381 Link
When stuff like this is coming out, regardless of the motivation of either side, the sense I get is of a group of players that think they are almost entitled to have All-Ireland medals. On the surface it is very similar to how I would view their hurling cousins in Galway. Reading all this I can't help think of Clint's great line at the end of Unforgiven as his standing over Gene Hackman: 'Deserve? Deserves got nothing to do with it'. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 21/12/2016 11:31:00 1941383 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "I made eight points in my post do you disagree with all of them , I will give you one example to help you out , do you think a man has right of reply and should be able to face his accuser ??????????" the incident happened over a year ago yet they choose to launch an attack on the players now after a tough loss?...not exactly the bravest of times to do things nor the most credible...it was petty and doesnt do mayo any good in my opinion alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 11:42:11 1941387 Link
Replying To alano12: "the incident happened over a year ago yet they choose to launch an attack on the players now after a tough loss?...not exactly the bravest of times to do things nor the most credible...it was petty and doesnt do mayo any good in my opinion" Tell me when youd have thought it a good time for them to defend their reputations , I suspect you don't have one , if they said it straight after they left , sour grapes , if they said it mid summer theyd have been accused of looking for maximum impact to cause disruption , so go on then tell me when was the "right time " ????????????????? Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/12/2016 12:42:12 1941397 Link
Connelly/Homles have no one to answer to they have given decades of their lives to Mayo Football and even the most hardliner hear cannot say they were badly treated , while some people don't agree with these 2 guys speaking or what they have said I think they have earned the right to. Name me others in Mayo who have contributed as much as these guys . People who look down on these guys for coming out should look at themselves and ask what have they contributed to the GAA community..... ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 21/12/2016 13:41:08 1941414 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "Tell me when youd have thought it a good time for them to defend their reputations , I suspect you don't have one , if they said it straight after they left , sour grapes , if they said it mid summer theyd have been accused of looking for maximum impact to cause disruption , so go on then tell me when was the "right time " ?????????????????" i dont think they should have made their views public at all..at the start at most..they made cheap and petty remarks..look at some of the articles posted on here alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 13:51:14 1941415 Link
Another great Clint line comes to mind " opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one " Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 21/12/2016 13:52:57 1941417 Link
Replying To Belclare1: "Martin Brehony writes again today and basically backs up the two lads and stands 100%behind them in that they had every right in coming out now and telling it as it is.. I agree with him and the two lads, absolutely they have evry right to defend their position. If Mayo are to ever win the All Ireland Rochford has to man up now and remove the few egos that are causing problems." Wasn't it Brehony who published the Cunniffe interview before the Holmes/Connelly statement? No coincidence there, Brehony is definitely taking sides. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/12/2016 15:08:09 1941437 Link

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