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Replying To culmore:  "Mayo players should just keep their mouths shut in future and just do their talking on the field and when they have a Celtic Cross in their back pockets then come out and say their piece. Till then leave the management to the Manager and let them do the playing on the field."
Spot on.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 20/12/2016 12:19:45    1941136

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this article has given many the opportunity to stick the boot into this mayo team more than anything else

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/12/2016 12:25:29    1941138

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Replying To alano12:  "mayo got very close to an all ireland...but keep up the pettiness..even as a dub i can step back and consider they had a good year ultimately and things could have gone their way over both days...i think galway got what they deserved for being a backward county who is now busy jumping on the latest rugby bandwagon"
You're a gas. Mayo ultimately did no better this year than last. As to Galway being a "backward county", I'd expect nothing less from a gurrier.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 861 - 20/12/2016 12:35:12    1941141

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Replying To Ailteoir:  "You're a gas. Mayo ultimately did no better this year than last. As to Galway being a "backward county", I'd expect nothing less from a gurrier."
they got to an all ireland final replay that sounds like better to me....whats with the mayo hate?..most objective observers acknowledge the team improved this year...gurrier, classy

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/12/2016 12:41:18    1941142

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I would have to side with Holmes and Connelly players
need to take a good look at themselves i love Mcgarrity
it was ok for the players to shaft the two boys and its not
ok when they give their side of the story

wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 20/12/2016 12:42:57    1941145

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Replying To Ailteoir:  "You're a gas. Mayo ultimately did no better this year than last. As to Galway being a "backward county", I'd expect nothing less from a gurrier."
you really do have a lot of hate inside you it seems...instead of talking about what your far more relevant long suffering neighbours deserve maybe u would focus more on the issue of galway having no fans and getting humiliated by a hurling county?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/12/2016 12:50:26    1941147

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Alano12

Still pretending to be from Dublin I see

- Funny how often you say things like "As a Dub" Being from Dublin" "Our county"

Please explain that backward County jibe?

Are you really from Mayo?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 20/12/2016 12:54:50    1941149

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Replying To opa01:  "I think the Players' letter was more damning of them than anything H/C said. It clearly showed the egos involved."
Very well said.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 20/12/2016 12:57:08    1941150

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Are the county board funds benefiting in any way from Aidan O'Shea's high media profile? Do they get a cut of any made from his endorsement deals or public appearances?"
Most counties have a pooling system where all funds raised together or as individuals are put in & ultimately divided evenly amongst the squad. It's a system restaurants use now as well where all tips are divved out evenly. If one or more individuals pocket their own all the time & don't contribute, it leads to a break down in morale & mistrust. In a group of players trying to win an All Ireland as a team/group if someone is not doing what everyone else is doing, they should be removed from the group. Generally this greed manifests itself on the field also. If this is the situation in Mayo, as well as players looking for others to be dropped, it would appear that it's a nasty divided group.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 20/12/2016 13:05:07    1941151

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Holmes and Connelly said nothing that the 'birds in the bushes' did not know. The players made their feeling known thru a letter demanding the resignation of the co-managers. It is a bit rich of McGee voicing his opinion- he would have been better to have said something worthwhile when his team mate was dropped by McGuiness for a quote. It is interesting how most players now blame a manager for losing matches. On the football Dublin were a much better team in 2015 than 2016 (by at least 6 points) losing 2 of their best players. The guys posting that they were better this year need to take the blinkers off.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/12/2016 13:21:54    1941154

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Alano12

Still pretending to be from Dublin I see

- Funny how often you say things like "As a Dub" Being from Dublin" "Our county"

Please explain that backward County jibe?

Are you really from Mayo?"
Hence the reason why I don't engage in a debate with him jimbo
It's pure wum tactics we see from this lad over and over again

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 20/12/2016 13:23:25    1941156

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you really do have a lot of hate inside you it seems...instead of talking about what your far more relevant long suffering neighbours deserve maybe u would focus more on the issue of galway having no fans and getting humiliated by a hurling county?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1200 - 20/12/2016 12:50:26 1941147

Spoken like a true Mayo man!

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 20/12/2016 13:27:27    1941157

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Replying To alano12:  "this article has given many the opportunity to stick the boot into this mayo team more than anything else"
Rubbish ,
Ive had a look back at posts that's not what I see ,
you have an the ends justify the means attitude and that's not my take on it for one bit , you have completely missed that a mans reputation may actually mean something to him , natural justice dictates a mans right to face his accuser , up until now what we have known about the whole sorry saga has been drip fed from the players ,people who love GAA don't enjoy this in ANY county , I hated the Cork Galway and Limericks sagas previously and don't enjoy this one, but if it was me and some thought it was alight to steamroll my name , you bet Id fight back , the response from H/C has been measured had this come out last june / july Id buy that they were only motivated by revenge , but December give a rest .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 20/12/2016 13:30:35    1941158

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People and ex players like mcgarrity need to get a grip.. Pat and Neol are 2 men who have given great service to Mayo over the years are fully intitled to defend themselves and there reputations..The players got rid of them and never give them a reason as to the reason why.. Also Some of the snippets from the interview dosent surprise me at all, about a certain player in particular.

mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 20/12/2016 13:50:48    1941160

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Replying To Belclare1:  "you really do have a lot of hate inside you it seems...instead of talking about what your far more relevant long suffering neighbours deserve maybe u would focus more on the issue of galway having no fans and getting humiliated by a hurling county?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1200 - 20/12/2016 12:50:26 1941147

Spoken like a true Mayo man!"
True colours shining through chief!

Pathetic carry on

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 20/12/2016 14:07:17    1941162

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Nobody likes their own county going through the the mill for the wrong reasons and it's an utter nightmare since October. I'm disallusioned by the whole thing.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 20/12/2016 14:21:45    1941167

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Galway' s hurlers missed the boat this year because Tuohy and Canning had to go off injured at half time against Tipp. No one knows how Galway would have done against Kilkenny had they beaten Tipp. However I believe had Tuohy and Canning stayed on the field against Tipp it would have been a Galway against Kilkenny All Ireland final in 2016.
Mayo were criticised for being open at the back in 2015 . That was tidied up very well this year yet you criticise them for playing a type of game that will never win an All Ireland . Damned if you do and damned if you don't. You didn't happen to look at Armagh, Tyrone or Donegal in the last fifteen years ?"
Galway hurlers missed the boat in not moving on some of the old brigade. Their bench was full of house hold names...every one of them. Yet most are past their best and had no impact on the championship. Why weren't a few younger players blooded? And for the record every Galway man I talked to doesn't believe they would have won the final but who knows. The point is he has wasted a year to give the likes of the two Tynagh lads and a few more younger players valuable experience.
And for the record you actually enforce my point when you mention Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal. Expertly set up defensively but destroyed all in front of them when they attacked in numbers. Armagh in particular were a joy to watch. Proper fluid football. Mayo's system can't be compared to any of these teams. McLoughlin had no influence on the attack or setting up the attack and Boyle beside him was taken off in nearly every game. This year was a poor championship. Tipp for example with far more limited players had Brian Fox attacking and setting up numerous attacks and kicked some great scores also. Kearns set up his team to play to their strengths. Mayo didn't. McLoughlin sweeper backfired big time as did Keegan's role as a man marker close to goal, in both the semi and the replay. Aidan O'Shea at centre forward is also a really strange call.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/12/2016 14:23:57    1941168

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Do people really genuinely believe Mayo were a better team this year than last? If so did you genuinely see all their (televised) championship games. With the exception of Andy Moran and Durcan I can't think of anyone that had a better year than last. (Ignore the All Stars/Player of the Year). Anyone that seen them stumble against a Tipp team in the semi final can't honestly say that. I think the Mayo posters are the best to answer the question as anyone that says they were better I believe are blatantly lying!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/12/2016 14:31:53    1941169

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Holmes/Connolly had every right to speak out and have a go back.
As the previous poster mentioned they gave great service to the Mayo jersey in their day and then get tarnished by the current panel was belittling.

The players will just have to accept in what was well earned criticism in my opinion.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 20/12/2016 14:35:28    1941172

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Nobody likes their own county going through the the mill for the wrong reasons and it's an utter nightmare since October. I'm disallusioned by the whole thing."
I don't blame you

The Mayo circus continues

Own worst enemies

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 20/12/2016 14:43:43    1941176

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