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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Wasn't it Brehony who published the Cunniffe interview before the Holmes/Connelly statement?

No coincidence there, Brehony is definitely taking sides."
No more than Colm Parkinson or John Fogarty who have also had a fair amount to say on the subject.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 21/12/2016 15:13:32    1941438

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Replying To alano12:  "i dont think they should have made their views public at all..at the start at most..they made cheap and petty remarks..look at some of the articles posted on here"
So basically , get ousted , don't defend yourself , don't defend your reputation , just suck it up , that's what I thought was your opinion all along , so why go debating the timing of their statement at all ????

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/12/2016 15:13:41    1941439

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Lads and Ladies, quick one, with regards Mayo's chances for 2017. Do you think their chances of winning the All-Ireland are:

a) Less likely
b) More likely
c) Unchanged

I think more likely because I think the players won't struggle with motivation after this.

Babs took awful public swipes at the Tipp team from 2008 - 2010 and I think it helped give the players that little bit of extra motivation to succeed.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/12/2016 15:16:51    1941440

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/cheap-shots-have-harmed-mayo-436002.html

Just to show that an article written by one journalist is not fact and that it is merely their opinion. The quote on eamon sweeneys article should serve as a clue! Maybe some anti aiden O'shea posters on here could learn a thing or two from this"
That piece in The Examiner is an opinion piece . There are no quotes in it . Nothing new here . Move on .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/12/2016 15:18:02    1941441

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Replying To Jackeen:  "No more than Colm Parkinson or John Fogarty who have also had a fair amount to say on the subject."
Absolutely Jackeen, all three of those journalists are entitled to give their opinion.

What I am getting at is it looks like it was carefully planned by Breheny and the three of them. We'll run Cunniffe's interview first to show a senior player in the set up at the time was on Management's side. Once we have that out of the way we'll publish the Holmes/ Connelly statement. It looks very much orchestrated to me.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/12/2016 15:32:02    1941444

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Lads and Ladies, quick one, with regards Mayo's chances for 2017. Do you think their chances of winning the All-Ireland are:

a) Less likely
b) More likely
c) Unchanged

I think more likely because I think the players won't struggle with motivation after this.

Babs took awful public swipes at the Tipp team from 2008 - 2010 and I think it helped give the players that little bit of extra motivation to succeed."
Honestly don't think they have lost an A ll Ireland due to lack of motivation , chances similar , if games go well this will be a distant memory , if things go bad hey look whats hanging from the excuse tree

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/12/2016 15:32:08    1941445

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Lads and Ladies, quick one, with regards Mayo's chances for 2017. Do you think their chances of winning the All-Ireland are:

a) Less likely
b) More likely
c) Unchanged

I think more likely because I think the players won't struggle with motivation after this.

Babs took awful public swipes at the Tipp team from 2008 - 2010 and I think it helped give the players that little bit of extra motivation to succeed."
Nothing changes in my opinion. Mayo are so close to Dublin. They've drawn with the last three All-Ireland Champions. 2014 drew with Kerry, 2015 and 2016 drew with Dublin. They had chances to beat both Kerry and Dublin in those series of games as well.

In my opinion this Mayo side will win the All-Ireland. They are too good not to and if they keep putting themselves in the frame to win it they will finally get over the line.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 21/12/2016 15:34:46    1941446

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Honestly don't think they have lost an A ll Ireland due to lack of motivation , chances similar , if games go well this will be a distant memory , if things go bad hey look whats hanging from the excuse tree"
Yeah, I was thinking the same or more likely. Dublin are still very strong, especially if/when Jack McCaffrey rejoins the panel, Kerry are never far away and Tyrone appear to be getting better too.

If they could find one more scoring forward they would be sorted or persuade Pearse Hanley to come home for a year or two but that doesn't look likely.

I agree, they are an extremely motivated bunch of players anyway but this could be that last little bit of extra motivation needed. They owe Mayo football nothing at this stage. Its a pity they didn't win Connacht this year at 6 in a row would have been unbelievable.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/12/2016 15:45:22    1941449

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Nothing changes in my opinion. Mayo are so close to Dublin. They've drawn with the last three All-Ireland Champions. 2014 drew with Kerry, 2015 and 2016 drew with Dublin. They had chances to beat both Kerry and Dublin in those series of games as well.

In my opinion this Mayo side will win the All-Ireland. They are too good not to and if they keep putting themselves in the frame to win it they will finally get over the line."
Yeah if early season odds for Mayo were a little bit higher than recent seasons you could see plenty of punters lobbing a few bob on them. They are definitely good enough to win an All-Ireland, just find one more scoring forward. In fairness to Andy Moran he got back to his pre-injury form this year.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/12/2016 15:50:26    1941451

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Yeah if early season odds for Mayo were a little bit higher than recent seasons you could see plenty of punters lobbing a few bob on them. They are definitely good enough to win an All-Ireland, just find one more scoring forward. In fairness to Andy Moran he got back to his pre-injury form this year."
Being honest if I had to pick a team right now to win the All-Ireland next year I'd pick Mayo. Obviously it's a long way away now but I think Dublin are the only team that could beat Mayo. 3 in a row is going to be very difficult to achieve for Dublin and I think it's going to be Mayo that stop us.

If you look at the age profile of the top players on each team Mayo are a little bit younger. There's no guarantee that Dublin's young guns can carry the team in the way that the older fellas have (Flynn, Connolly, Brogan, MDMA, Cluxton etc). I think Mayo are well placed before another team comes to challenge.

If Mayo win next year I'd also back this group to at least pick up another one as well.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 21/12/2016 16:11:14    1941458

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The more I think about this article the more I think that Holmes and Connelly were dead wrong in naming Alan Dillon and the 2 O'Sheas.

Holmes and Connelly could have made their point, which they're fully entitled to do, without naming the three lads.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 21/12/2016 16:14:16    1941459

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Replying To Greengrass:  "That piece in The Examiner is an opinion piece . There are no quotes in it . Nothing new here . Move on ."
yeah martin breheny is as credible as they come...right...the guy is openly lacking objectivity on this topic

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 16:47:26    1941472

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Replying To Damothedub:  "So basically , get ousted , don't defend yourself , don't defend your reputation , just suck it up , that's what I thought was your opinion all along , so why go debating the timing of their statement at all ????"
the timing of their statement is one of the big issues about it...at the start would have been a better time and publicly naming specific players is pretty petty stuff in my view

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 17:02:40    1941476

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Replying To MesAmis:  "The more I think about this article the more I think that Holmes and Connelly were dead wrong in naming Alan Dillon and the 2 O'Sheas.

Holmes and Connelly could have made their point, which they're fully entitled to do, without naming the three lads."
Totally wrong in naming Dillon. Name a team in any sport that does not have players going to management looking to be out on the starting team. Nothing wrong there. Seems there is an issue around 2/3 other players. Rochford will need to decide what to do there.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 21/12/2016 17:21:06    1941478

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Totally wrong in naming Dillon. Name a team in any sport that does not have players going to management looking to be out on the starting team. Nothing wrong there. Seems there is an issue around 2/3 other players. Rochford will need to decide what to do there."
were they not appointed in controversial circumstances in the first place?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 17:31:18    1941480

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Replying To alano12:  "were they not appointed in controversial circumstances in the first place?"
They were but you may remember the players didn't want McStay and McHale either so it was a total mess.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 21/12/2016 17:39:51    1941483

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Replying To alano12:  "yeah martin breheny is as credible as they come...right...the guy is openly lacking objectivity on this topic"
Id say your the one lacking objectivity , from day one on here your pro player full stop , you've argued the toss about timing of the statement yet at the same time stated they should have kept their mouths shut .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/12/2016 17:47:01    1941484

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Replying To yew_tree:  "They were but you may remember the players didn't want McStay and McHale either so it was a total mess."
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwirjqO37oXRAhXMCcAKHe9lC6gQFgg1MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Fsport%2Fgaelic-games%2Fgaelic-football%2Fkevin-mcstay-reveals-massive-disappointment-in-missing-out-on-mayo-post-and-slams-liam-mchales-detractors-30611206.html&usg=AFQjCNGJwcoaj6rdnTJb2mzeltrtEO1_vQ&bvm=bv.142059868,d.ZGg

There was no mention they didn't want McStay

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 21/12/2016 17:59:47    1941486

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Replying To yew_tree:  "They were but you may remember the players didn't want McStay and McHale either so it was a total mess."
wasnt aware they didnt want mcstay either

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 18:01:35    1941487

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Id say your the one lacking objectivity , from day one on here your pro player full stop , you've argued the toss about timing of the statement yet at the same time stated they should have kept their mouths shut ."
because its not a black and white issue...and its rich that your accusing me of bias considering your views on the topic....do you think they should have named the players?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/12/2016 18:02:52    1941488

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